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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:51 PM Original message |
Tell me ONE candidate who might run in 2008 who can't be swiftboated |
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Pale Blue Dot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. They all can |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. As for Gore, how many times has he said he isn't running? |
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Pale Blue Dot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That has nothing to do with my post. Blatantly. |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
71. So if all can be swiftboated, what do you propose we do? |
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exlrrp (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #71 |
110. Swiftboat the Swifboaters!! |
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exlrrp (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Bush: Completely unqualified when discharged! The proof!! |
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rep the dems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. What he usually says is "I have no plans to be a candidate again." |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. I guess you missed the latest one: |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. "Swifboating" means lies about a candidate. So, no one is immune. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Mark Warner |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Warner is a very strong candidate |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Warner needs to emphasize Virginia's term limts |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. If Warner needs to plug up a Foreign policy/National Security hole |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. That's always the "Governor" problem |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yep....well, Warner better get started with his National Security |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Yup. Doesn´t ANYONE remember them saying the same thing bout... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Was that before or after 9/11? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
87. What about Carter in 1976 and Reagan in 1980? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:31 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Kewl....we can just have a few wars raging....but act |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:58 AM Response to Reply #44 |
86. Just wondering...what if the GOP nominee is a Governor? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. I saw Huckabee on C-Span, and he wasn't "surprisingly " |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
90. What I have against him is that we're going to need a streetfighter in |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Al Gore - because they already hit him with all the shit they had in 2000 |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Do you really think Gore is going to run? |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I don't know if he'll run or not ... |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. I agree about Al Gore. They brought it all out - shirt colors, |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. They'll swiftboat anybody. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I agree. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Anyone -- including Jesus himself -- could be Swiftboated. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. Jesus himself would be swift boated as a friend of prostitutes and sinners |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Jesus WAS swiftboated by the Ancient Republicans |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 08:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
103. Well of course |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-29-06 12:40 AM Response to Reply #103 |
117. Jesus was the original victim |
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mourningdove92 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. John Edwards |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
96. With his tongue....I daresay! |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 04:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
97. Like he kicked Cheney's ass in their debate? |
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exlrrp (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #97 |
111. Agreed!! nt |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. I can't imagine |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. If they did it to Gore and Kerry, they are going to do it to any Dem |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Not sure what you mean... |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. The GOP controlls broadcast media |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Its not that simple. n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. That's what they do |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. No I don't |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
72. The question is "who can't be swiftboated" |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Rather f'd up. He admitted as much. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:22 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. That's why we keep losing |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:26 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Where did I say "all by himself"? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. "see the candidate respond" |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:49 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I wasn't in this |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #84 |
95. "led around by bloggers too much"???....you mean |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
113. Not after this Iraq war turned into another Vietnam and people are waking |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. A More Important Question ... |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
13. Everyone has his (her) vulnerable points. |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Point of weakness? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Good point. Rove's "genius" was to attack their strength |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. You don't think the |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
70. No, I don't. Not for the reality-based world. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. As many have noted |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. You're blaming the victim |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Heres a simple theory |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #82 |
94. Let me guess... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:11 AM Response to Reply #70 |
88. That's hard to believe |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. And they grew up in a context... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 07:53 AM Response to Reply #93 |
102. Very true |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Rambo 101 |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #108 |
115. OMG! |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 07:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
100. You're right, and I stand corrected. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. All vulnerabilties are equal then? |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. They all can. Question is will the party back them up? n/t |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
16. Wes Clark |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. As much as I like Wes... |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. I think they´d try like hell with the General.. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. As many Generals that are going against the Pentagon, |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Thanks FrenchieCat !! |
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exlrrp (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #51 |
109. Yeah, thanks Frenchie! Great! nt |
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phillysuse (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
18. Wesley Clark |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
20. They all will be |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
25. Hillary Clinton... |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Hillary would be swiftboated more than all of them put together... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #29 |
104. Of course they will try... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Swiftboating Hillary would be the easiest for Repugs |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
105. You are blind... |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. Why do you think the 'pubs have been predicting her |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
106. Please...the same ridiculous argument... |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #106 |
114. You should stop insulting people who disagree with you. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
65. The swiftys would make something up.. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. Yassee ..... here's the essential truth about swiftboating ...... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Tom Harkin has beat 9 Repugs when he has run by doing this... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I agree until |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
57. Yes! The One who flings the FIRST Stone Wins! |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. Hold On.. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. How come it didn't work in '92? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Rove was unavailable |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Sure hes good |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. What I see is the concert is breaking up |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
42. None. BUT.... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. "Fresh" vs. "Stale" swiftboating |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
75. I think you have more faith in the intelligence of the electorate than I |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
47. Gore |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. You can swiftboat anyone for anything |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Do 51% percent always believe it? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. That depends. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. So then the candidate's |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Problem is, only a handful of people |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I agree with that. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
66. The Republicans will attempt to swift boat any of our candidates. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
68. Briasn Schweitzer |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-27-06 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
73. Clark & Feingold |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Wow.. those two names look good together.. |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
78. They can try to "swiftboat" Wes Clark but they're shit out of luck..... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
89. Nobody is immune |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
98. I think to rectify this situation is to take it head on and hand it right |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
99. "swiftboating" is our word now. . |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
101. Definitely Hillary |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
107. Every Democratic Candidate (or Possible) can be "Swiftboated" |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-28-06 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
116. Obama |
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SoCalDemGrrl (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-29-06 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
118. Everyone on earth can be swiftboated cuz its based on LIES |
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