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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:13 PM
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Soros to Dems: Win the House. Then subpoena Bush for misdeeds.
Billionaire speculator Soros says Democrats should subpoena the president

John Byrne
Published: Monday September 18, 2006

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Billionaire_speculator_Soros_says_Democrats_should_0918.html

Should Democrats retake the House in November, George Soros says they should have one priority: Subpoena President George W. Bush.

The billionaire currency speculator, who poured more than $20 million of his personal fortune into efforts to unseat Bush in 2004, offered his opinions on American politics and foreign policy in a wide-ranging interview with RAW STORY last week. In the exchange, he responded to questions on domestic politics, while criticizing the war in Iraq and efforts to contain nuclear technologies in Iran and Pakistan.

Soros wouldnt say who he favored for the 2008 presidential race, but he did say Democrats should take bold moves should they win back the House of Representatives in November.

Clearly, he said, using the subpoena power to bring to light the misdeeds by the administration would have to be, I think, a top priority.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:15 PM
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1. Is Soros doing anything to help us in 2006?
I'd like to see him run a 527 to throw some money our way in House races, if not Senate races. Then again, the House is where impeachment proceedings start.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:17 PM
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2. The vast majority of Dems currently in Congress are spineless to the
point that I have no faith that they will create any change in the tragic direction this country is racing in whether they have the power to do so or not...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:19 PM
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3. While I agree with him, Dem will also have to start "swiftboating"
to get national attention and support.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:22 PM
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5. Totally! Swiftboating, but with the truth
There is enough truth to hit this asshole with.

I equate "swiftboating" with lying about people, same with smear. We don't need anything like that, we just need to be brave and hard-assed enough to tell the awful truth with much bravado and lots of noise!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:27 PM
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8. It's not swiftboating if it's true...
It's call campaigning....
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:49 PM
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24. We need "truthboating" maybe? nt
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:44 PM
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11. We have something we need to get over first...
...and that's the unfortunate tendency to say things like "We can't sink to Rove's level."

Karl Rove sinking to "Rove's level" is what won the last two presidential elections. Whether we like it or not, he has defined the playing field. When Bill Clinton went on The Daily Show in 2004, he told Jon Stewart that Rove is "doing what works. When it no longer works or he can no longer get away with it, he'll do something else."

So I don't ask people to believe me. I ask them to believe Bill Clinton.

The 2008 election will have absolutely nothing to do with defeating John McCain or Bill Frist or Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney or any other GOP prick who ends up on the ticket. It will have everything to do with defeating Karl Rove. If we, as a party, do not have the stomach for that, we deserve exactly what we get.

:patriot:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:09 PM
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22. My response is - YES. I WANT to be just like them. Because they WIN.
And I want to WIN. And at present, that is the only way to win, to go negative, to smear, to fight dirty, to hit below the belt. I'm not afraid to be Macchiavellian - if that's what it takes to WIN.

WINNING is EVERYTHING. Ideological or behavioral purity worked for sweet saints like Mother Theresa but she wasn't in politics. Imagine how they'd smear her if she had been! And it would have worked with enough of the residents of Dumbfuckistan.

Unfortunately, politics is a dirty business. I'd love to be able to take the high road, but it just doesn't get us anywhere except straight over a cliff. There is time enough to start changing the tone and timbre of the political game and demonize the bad tactics and the dirty plays and dirty pool, and start making it chic to bring a little more moral and ethical tone to campaigning and campaign financing - AFTER WE'VE WON. But WINNING is the first priority. We can't do SQUAT for the greater good, or to reverse the negative trends and the poison that's been injected into our political discourse AND into the American political landscape, until we start WINNING. Frankly, at this point, I don't give a rat's ass HOW we win, just as long as we DO. WINNING IS EVERYTHING. It's the ONLY thing. We can't do ANYTHING for the good, or change anything bad, or accomplish anything positive or beneficial for our poor battered country, or protect our Constitution from bush-rape, or stop these greedy, criminal, short-sighted, narrow-minded warmongering republi-CON NeoCON monsters, or save, and heal, our country, until we WIN.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:19 PM
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4. Here's where we come full circle...
If the retaking of the House in November isn't usurped by corruption (stolen elections) I fully expect to hear a lot of "it's time to heal" crappola being spewed as an excuse not to put W on the stand, in the slammer, etc.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:22 PM
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6. I fear that too. Then, you just work to keep unseating the spineless.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:26 PM
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7. yeah, sore loserman -- be a statesman!
Godammit. Never, never again! From the coup attempt against FDR to Iran Contra to the Starr report to Selection 2000 on, we have capitulated "for the good of the country."

Never! Never give in!
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:44 PM
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10. attack with your opponents pathetic roll call votes
Attack them with the roll call votes that are verifiable with the crap they push through and for the things they promise to their base but conveniently forget....

Use the truth and what their jobs SHOULD be not their mistresses or immaterial tabloid fodder.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:35 PM
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9. Same here.
I don't have much faith in them doing anything.
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 03:18 PM
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12. You know, as
much money as George Soros has, and considering how he got it, I think that $20 million was a pretty cheap sop to his conscience. I'm not saying that he isn't right about what should be done. I'm just saying the man made his pile on the backs of the poor, and $20 mil to him is like $20 to most people.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 03:39 PM
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13. George, how much are you donating this year?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 05:51 PM
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14. In this, Dems should act like Repukes ... promise that you won't go after
Bush if elected ...

and, if we take both, NAIL HIS ASS ...

Gee, that sounds like being a Republican ... lying about what you would do in office ...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:25 PM
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15. Kick.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:39 PM
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16. common man to Soros
can you and some rich Dems buy media outlets and let the truth flow.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:57 PM
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17. well put up the big bucks for our candidate Soros..help those that
are in tight races..give for commericals..please...sir help us take back our country from this cabal!!

thank you Mr Soros!!

fly
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:29 AM
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18. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Hastert
Lest you be stuck with Cheney as prez.
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defendusa2 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:50 AM
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19. He could do more
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 11:50 AM by defendusa2
20 Million is nice, and helpful, but Soros could do much much more. Soros could toss in 40, 100, or 500 million dollars without blinking. Suppose Soros donated the maximum to each democrat running for political office and tossed in a million dollars for each PAC. That would make a huge difference. The main reason that Republicans win is that they spend twice as much as the Democrats. They can spend that much because large companies are willing to pay Republicans to get favors from them. Soros could single-handedly even the playing field. If I had Soros' money, you can bet that I'd be spending like there was no tomorrow, because if the Republicans win, there probably won't be.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:58 PM
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20. Hi defendusa2!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:36 PM
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21. It's not just that they (repukes) have more $$, they spend it better.
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 01:36 PM by greyhound1966
Our Party is completely psychotic when it comes to doling out the bucks and supporting local candidates.

Being not-shrub may be enough to win some seats this cycle, but it will continue to fail in the long run.

Welcome matey, Aaargh! B-)
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 03:50 PM
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23. Worthy first step for impeachment.
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