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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:53 PM
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Connecting the dots: Nazi Sympathizers dot-dot-dot Islamofascists
Maybe everyone but me has already gotten this. For me, it just shot out of my brain a minute ago .......

For weeks, we've been hearing of the 'Islamofascists"

Now we hear about 'Nazi Sympathizers"

These two words - Nazi and Fascist - are very powerful. Virtually everyone has a strong negative emotion associated with them. Most people see them as synonymous.

So we have this 'enemy' out there. 'Terrorist' was becoming a cartoon word. So they turned to the strongest 'enemy' word in our language, use what are effectivly two forms of it, and paint us as one side and the 'terrorists' as the other side. Two sides in league. Bad guys and the people who love them.

These guys are good at word games.

But you know .... 'Nazi' is a dangerous word to use. It is SO powerful that its mere use, no matter the context, can undermine any argument that uses it as support. So far, it seems, the word is not having the effect they intended. Pretty much *everyone* is on Rummy's ass about it. And by extension, on the ass of all top Republicans.

I think we may be seeing yet another slow motion shark jump by the bush leagers.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:57 PM
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1. If commander AWOL is going to throw the term Nazi around
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 09:02 PM by SpiralHawk
then he damn well better explain his grandpappy, Skull & Boner Prescott Bush -- who was the banker to Hitler and the Nazis.

Bush and his Skull & Boner family are up their arses, and higher, in Nazi complicity.

Why doesn't one of our Pretty Hair corporate robo-reporters ask about that? As if...

http://www.geocities.com/bushfamilynazis/

Prescott Bush, Nazi banker (hell I'm sure the Bush family made lots of money off WW II, just like their republicon oil cronies are making a KILLING now at the gas pumps as we pay and pay and pay...

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:00 PM
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2. Yeah, people describe the dems as loose cannons
but who fits the authoritarian, lock step, corporate fascist image, who is into warrantless
wiretaps, e-mail snooping, national ID cards, torture, rendition, pre-emptive wars, and
signing statements, paid mercenaries like blackwater, paid PR, and unitary executives and operating in secrecy, hmmmm, who comes to mind, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:50 PM
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3. My concern with these terms is the strong emotion attached to them
And the RW trying to attach that strong negative emotion to **us**.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 07:52 AM
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4. it's republicon projection
They project onto others the very things they are guilty of.

Begins with denial, progresses to projection.

Bush knows damn well his family bankrolled Hitler and the Nazi war machine, and all the death and destruction they caused in the world.

the corporate media knows this FACT, too, but has not the integrity or the guts to report it.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:50 PM
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5. well, I think that doesn't work anymore
people have lost their comfort zone, they know that the dems have not been in power, Bush
himself has said that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, so people are confused by him
and they think he lies. Rummie does not connect with the American people. I think that
they are desperate because they have lost their base.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:13 PM
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6. I think that's very true, thankfully
They have, indeed, overplayed their hand.

The point of my post was not the result, but the strategy. The use of evocative terms to incite the sheeple to a view more favorable to the users of such terms.

A risky move, the use of 'Nazi'. And to end on a bright note, perhaps it is the sign of true desperation.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:19 PM
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7. You have to understand where they are coming from
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 06:22 PM by MissWaverly
they're so used to shouting "9-11, Terra, 9-11" and it was almost like saying "Give us what we want, look up to us, never question us" and people did. Now, the magic words don't work anymore
and like the desperate ones in Ali Babba's cave, they keep searching for a word that will
work, but I don't think there's an "Open Sesame" for this one. The old words have worn
off, people care about pocketbook issues, they care about jobs, healthcare, prices, the
interest rates and the Captain of the football team that they see back from Iraq with no feet who is now getting a sub at the 7-11.
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