A Short History of American Fascists and the GOP

[leveymg]

Most of us here have learned that Dubya's Grandfather and Great Uncle were Hitler's American bankers, managing the Union Trust Bank in NY, controlled by Fritz Thyssen and Herman Goering, which was a primary conduit for dollars that flowed to the Nazi regime.




But, not many know that Eisenhower's Secretary of State and Director of CIA had been Hitler's American lawyers. That's right, the Dulles brothers headed the Wall Street firm Sullivan & Cromwell, that represented the biggest German commercial interests between the Wars, even after Germany went to war with England and had conquered most of Europe.




The Dulles Brothers also represented Standard Oil that continued supplying Nazi Germany with petroleum for almost a year after war was declared, until FDR threatened the Rockefellers with nationalization and prosecution for violation of the Trading With The Enemy Act. Standard was also German chemical giant I.G. Farben's business partner.




Instead of rounding up American Fifth Columnists, as did the British, wealthy Americans with long and well-known fascist sympathies were placed in positions within OSS and military intelligence. They facilitated the escape of Nazis when the war ended, and continued to recruit Nazis into western intelligence networks.




By the way, John Foster Dulles was the Chairman of the Republican National Committee during the 1930s and early 1940s. Prescott Bush was his protege. In the mid-1970s, G.H.W. Bush was also awarded the post of Chairman of the RNC and head of U.S. Intel, for no readily apparent reason.

That's the inside story of how the Bushes got where they did.

[Vincardog]

1. K & R this deserves to be greatest

[FogerRox]

18. Vote this thread up, Totally KNR this thread, good stuff, well done.

[LunaSea]

2. Big k&r!

[agincourt]

3. The GOPig Nazi connection,

Should be taught in public schools.

[Me.]

4. Must Be Something In The Air Today

I mentioned this in an email to Countdown today. An apple and tree analogy and how dare he call other people fascists.

*shadow government*


PS. Emails of support would be beneficial if we want to have KO conyinue telling the truth.
[email protected]

[shifting_sands]

5. Great article

It's good to get this out there and keep it out. It's been rolling around for several years and pops up from time to time, I like to see it stay up. People need to think about the kind of leaders they are keeping in government

[Reckon]

6. The Bu$h Cult is fascist.... n/t

[iamahaingttta]

7. Want ALL the dirt on the Bush family?

Try this:

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm#Table

"George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography"
by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitki

Lots of fun stuff there!

[indepat]

8. Now those with well known sympathies are trampling everything good

about this country and, all too often, replacing it with a glorious fascist vision and agenda which tens of millions of Amerikkans seem to swallow, hook, line and sinker. Or am I just misreading the tea leaves?

[PATRICK]

9. I read Allan Dulles's book

a must read if you want to know how the CIA was organized(de-compartmentalization, the good old boy trust system, removing the bothersome oversight). A large portion is taken up with the "general's Plot" trying to rehabilitate at least those Nazis trying to ditch Hitler. In particular, he was trying to get leniency for general Wolf, the one who surrendered the German army through Dulles' efforts(his own retrospective saving some face for himself). There are disturbing undercurrents since the book was written after the Kennedy assassination that makes one think it might have been addressed to some "good generals" of our own, but in light of the above his interest in "good" Nazis now makes more sense.

FDR was a "great leader" until he got sick and made deals with the commies. If you take all the upper crust values and facets that make up the elitist character supporting fascist systems, etc. you get Dulles, who pushed for and blew the Bay of Pigs fiasco as his last official act. His book stops abruptly with his WWII glory days.

[Lars39]

10. And let's not forget the American Nazis.

Most were rounded up and interned during the war, but when the war was over they just went back home, often more organized and determined than before.
PBS(or maybe the History Channel) has a really good program about the subject. Very disturbing.

[Monk06]

11. Joe Kennedy was in the same boat. He was profoundly anti Brit ...

due to his Fenian sympathies with the Irish
Republic which collaborated with the Nazis
during the WWII.

Joe was caught by Brit intelligence passing
information to the German high command while
he was the wartime US Embassador to Britain.

Churchill was furious and wanted to arrest
Kennedy for espionage but was diswaided because
because it would undermine the alliance between
the US and Britain.

Unlike Repug nazi sympathizers JFK publically
appologized for his father's pro nazi leanings.

Ref "The Man Called Intrepid" By William Stevenson

[vssmith]

13. If I am not mistaken you can throw

Henry Ford and Charles Lindberg in there too.

[Monk06]

14. Charles Lindburgh is an interesting story. He was a nazi sympathizer...

who's son was purportedly kidnapped by Bruno Hauptmann

http://experts.about.com/e/l/li/Lindbergh_kidnapping.htm

There are theories that Lindburg himself killed his son
accidentally and Hauptmann was made the patsy. The rush
to judgement on Hauptmann was due in no small part to
anti German/anti Nazi hysteria.

[FogerRox]

17. Which is why when Lindberg flew for the Army Air Corp in WW2

He served in the Pacific Theater.

[LUHiWY]

30. dissuaded

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=dissuaded

[AntiFascist]

12. Excellent summary, and there's also...

the entire history of how this gave rise to the "New Right" as outlined in Russ Bellant's book: "Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party". The worldwide anti-Communist movement was ripe with fascist and former Nazi connections. It's one thing to play off fascists against communists, but its quite another thing to embrace them. The right-wing Muslim Brotherhood, which gave rise to al Qaeda, is just one example of one these "connections" getting out of control. The problem with neoconservatism is that it wants things to get "out of control" so that there will be war.

[grizmaster]

20. Sounds like a must read

now that rummy has warned of the danger of the fascists lurking about. :sarcasm:

[AntiFascist]

31. Definitely, and you might be interested to know....

another anti-Communist connection supported by Rummy and other Republicans at one time, which got out of control, was the regime of Saddam Hussein. Now, there is also some disagreement about whether Saddam's nation was indeed fascist because it, too, lacked corporatism. Notice how former Italian prime minister Berlusconi actually came to the defense of Mussolini, calling him a benign dictator compared to Saddam:

http://www-csli.stanford.edu/~nunberg/fascist.html

But Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi stirred up a controversy recently when he complained to some British journalists that labeling Saddam a fascist disparaged Mussolini's regime, which he called comparatively benign. "Mussolini never killed anyone," he said, not quite accurately. "Mussolini used to send people on vacation in internal exile." A Berlusconi spokesman later acknowledged that the fascists had been guilty of some crimes, but insisted that the their regime "can't in any way be compared to Nazism or communism."1

Those fine distinctions are apt to be lost on Americans, who don't have any intimate historical memories of fascism with a capital F. "Fascist" is a word that we throw around as easily as "bastard," and with no more heed to its literal meaning.

So, in essence, perhaps we can have a "benign" (sic.) form of fascism devoid of the extremism of Nazism. Gee, that's nice to know!

So, anyway, if Ahmadinejad continues to court socialists and perhaps communists as allies, and continues to sound like a Democrat, then just wait: the Administration may just decide to throw out the term Islamo-fascist and return to its former anti-Communist ways, embracing fascism as the only way of battling those godless socialist heathens.

[mackdaddy]

15. it is the PETROFacist we should really fear!! n/t

[civildisoBDence]

26. Petrofascist-- I haven't heard that one...

but it makes perfect sense to me!

The Oinky Boinky Machine

[liberalla]

28. Petrofascist!

Yes, it's great! Was listening to Peter Werbe (filling in for Malloy) last night, when a woman caller used that term. I plan to use it too.

[FogerRox]

16. This is a great capsule-isation

I would add Prescott headed the Board of Harriman Bros, selling steel to Germany- 1/3 of Germanys steel imports came from Harriman in 1939, IIRc from Kevin Phillips book "American Dynasty".

On edit...

- the IBM punch card systems sold to Germany --- each Punch card had a matching tatto on someones arm.

- General Motors built the Opel plant that made Panzer tanks.

- The Brown Shirts marched with Remington rifles, after the burning of the Parliment building (Reichstag)-1933. IIRC the Walker side of the family shipped the rifles across the Atlantic.

[grizmaster]

19. hey rummy, pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot

nice summation

[PleadTheFirst]

21. K&R. Nice capsule view.

[mnhtnbb]

22. Bush family connections to Nazi Germany are not secret...

but what is amazing is how much these connections are ignored or unknown
by public at large. Thanks, liberal media.

[Kurovski]

23. Something good to email around. May we?

K&R and bookmarked.

Thus endeth the lesson!:-):thumbsup:

[leveymg]

24. Be my guest! eom

[hootinholler]

25. On Proteges

Prescott Bush was his protege. In the mid-1970s, G.H.W. Bush was also awarded the post of Chairman of the RNC and head of U.S. Intel, for no readily apparent reason.

I didn't know about the Dulles-Prescott link. Nixon was a protege of Prescott, and in turn GHW was a protege of Nixon. That's the appointment connection.

-Hoot

[leveymg]

27. There's a lot of good info about Prescott and J.F. Dulles at

demopedia: http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Prescott_Bush#Prescott_Bush_and_John_Foster_Dulles

You're right about the relationship between Prescott and Nixon, but the Bush connection to Dulles predated that. Actually, Nixon encountered Allen Dulles a decade before he met Prescott Bush.

Dick Nixon interviewed with Allen Dulles at Sullivan & Cromwell right as Dick was about to graduate from Duke law school in 1937. Despite graduating third in his class, not being an Ivy Leaguer, Nixon wasn't hired there or by any of the other New York firms where he interviewed, including William Donovan's competing Wall Street firm.

During WWII, Dick Nixon was assigned to the Naval district office in NY, which was a recruiting ground for Office of Naval Intelligence. There is an interesting account that Nixon may have helped a Dulles client there, which led to his induction into the Dulles intelligence network. I'm not going to vouch for the following, but it seems worth following up on, since you mention the Nixon connection:

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/Elkhorn5.html

[StrictlyRockers]

29. Ray Taliaferro did a long bit on this on KGO after I emailed him to remind

him of it. He was very, very thankful for the reminder. He promised to send the information to friends in Congress and to help disseminate this info to the major media.

If Rummy wants to call us Nazi appeasers, this information will stop them cold on that tack.

SR

[hootinholler]

32. Thanks for that link!

I'm sure I don't have all the pieces, but it's nice when some I have fall together.

-Hoot