"LynneSin must not watch much cable news" (USA today)

[IChing]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2006-08-10-raasch_x.htm
updated for link



Terrorists were brewing a fresh date of infamy
>>>>>>snip



Hours after the arrests were announced, Las Vegas blogger and network designer Darmon Thornton, writing as "dcthornton," proclaimed: "Wake up folks. Now isn't the time for complacency." In his blog biography, Thornton claims that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks turned him from a "far-left Democrat" to a "small-l libertarian."


Even on normal days, the blogosphere is a petri dish of conspiracy theories, but when the code went red, the dish spilled over with wild thoughts. Some were downright silly, some rooted in real politics. An example of both: LynneSin, writing on Democraticunderground.com, suggested one reason liquids were banned on airplanes was to allow the airlines to charge insane amounts for their own beverages.

LynneSin also questioned the timing of the arrests two days after national security hawk Joe Lieberman went down in a Democratic Senate primary in Connecticut. "If this event had happened any other day of the year outside of the days after Joe Lieberman's defeat," the blogger proclaimed, ".... this event would not be covered ad nauseum over the news network."

LynneSin must not watch much cable news.

As the five-year anniversary of 9/11 approaches, many Americans — in particular those who witnessed first-hand the carnage of Sept. 11 — will reflect on a reality that on some level we have all lived for five years with a common question:

Will a new date of infamy replace 9/11 in the national psyche?

If you believe the government, terrorists were cooking up a deadly batch of hooch to create that very date.

Contact GNS Political Writer Chuck Raasch at [email protected].

[Patsy Stone]

1. I think she watches too much

:thumbsup:, LynneSin!

[ClassWarrior]

80. I think you drink too much...

...but that's why I love ya dahling. :loveya:

How's it Pats??

NGU.

[fooj]

2. Hey Chuck...

Who gives a rat's ass what you think?

[swag]

3. Good judgment, LynneSin.

[mom cat]

39. Amen!

[Elad]

4. Could you post a link please?

Thanks!

[Cooley Hurd]

Link here:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060813/EDIT02/608130355/1090

:thumbsup:

[IChing]

9. updated

[Der Blaue Engel]

5. "If you believe the government"

Yes, there's the rub, isn't it Mr. Raasch?

[Oceansaway]

6. TOUCHE !!..n/t

[LostinVA]

7. OMG! Poor Lynnesin!

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. Question is: will raasch eat crow when this "plot" is discredited?

I'm still waiting for o'reilly's gas light dinner.

[Catchawave]

10. OMG...proof that USA Today reads DU !

Way to go Lynne :hi: :patriot: :toast:

[Hoping4Change]

20. My thought also,

[mcscajun]

11. Oooh! There's a Big Fat Opening for LynneSin to do a "Must Publish" LTTE

Go, Lynne!!! (Did anyone PM her yet?)

:thumbsup:

On edit: Now since they got LynneSin right, was it Too Much to expect they'd print DemocraticUnderground.com? Yes, I guess it was. Doesn't matter Too Much, as there will still be a big surge in new visitors in the next few days.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

35. Our memberships always ramp up when they print us...

and only a few are trolls.

:bounce:

Thanks USAToday!

[rocktivity]

12. He couldn't tell that Lynne's beverage remark was a joke?

Of course he could, but he'd rather imply that the liberal blogger is deficient rather than amusing. Raasch must have had a heart attack when he heard what that congressman said to Steve Colbert!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Maat]

13. LynneSin, you're "the talk of the town:"

:patriot:

[bleever]

14. We all know what LynneSin's real problem is:

Not. Enough. Cowbell.



:)

[IChing]

16. Absolutely .....lol......Here you go Lynnsin....

[lgn19087]

15. Hey Chuck Asshole

You have my permission to quote me as being on record saying I think the whole plot was a hoax, I think the so-called "terrorists" will one-by-one get released due to "lack of evidence" (and likely with a little hush-money as well) and that the whole thing was concocted by Bush and Blair to get their approval ratings up. And when that becomes obvious to the whole world, I'll sit back in my chair with satisfaction knowing that I am smarter than you are.

Asshole.

[glitch]

17. Blogs are news now. My how the worms are turning. Congrats to LynneSin nt

:rofl:

[The Backlash Cometh]

26. Maybe we can convince them to look into the stolent elections of

2000, 2002 & 2004?

I mean, as long as they're listening, they might as well do some journalistic work.

[glitch]

33. We'll have to create a safe space for them to do so what with them being

such delicate flowers and all.

[Olney Blue]

18. So anything we say might end up in USA today?

hummm- imagine the possibilities!

[mcscajun]

22. or the New York Times, or countless other newspapers.

DU has been quoted one way or another for some time now. We're under a magnifying glass, people.

[MrBenchley]

19. Jeeze, and yet Lynnesin seems better informed than you

Go figure.

[dionysus]

51. do you EVER make a non-insulting post?

ever?

[purji]

58. no

no he doesn't

[TankLV]

65. N.O.

Hope that helps.

[Moochy]

76. He's paid to stir up the pot

... and insulting posters is his forte.

[iverglas]

82. how too fucking obvious was it

that the comment in the post you replied to was addressed to THE AUTHOR OF THE ITEM BEING QUOTED IN THE OPENING POST?

What a little fit of wilfully-moronic yapping this little subthread was.

[LynneSin]

83. MrBenchley is AOK in my book

:D

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

84. In mine, he isn't.

Or, rather, wasn't.

The admins are AOK in my book. :evilgrin:

[Puglover]

85. That was WAY too long in coming.

I have never seen a decent post from this guy.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

21. Looks to me like...

USA Today doesn't pay very much attention to current events.

Not terribly surprising, you ever read that rag? It's like The Family Circus of newspapers.

[Skittles]

41. McPaper

it is crap

[rosesaylavee]

23. Wouldn't be surprised

if this quote wasn't meant to have a chilling effect on posters here at DU.

Ha. Think again.

[Gregorian]

28. Well, it has me realizing we aren't alone here.

There is no substitute for being responsible before openning one's mouth. It gives me a bit of fear. I've been pretty free with my thoughts.


Hey, I am curious what your avatar is. There's several on the wall of my barn, and I wondered just what the heck it was.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

36. Kokopelli, the flute player...

Kokopelli is a prehistoric deity depicted hundreds of times in rock art, some of it over a thousand years old, located in numerous sites in southwestern United States deserts and mountains. Often depicted as a humpbacked flute player, this mythic being has survived in recognizable form from Anasazi times to the present.
http://www.acaciart.com/stories/archive10.html

[Gregorian]

40. Thank you!

What a sobering experience I just had. Suddenly I look back on a past that is not too distant. But so extremely different. Different is hardly the right word. It's too fast and too mechanized now. I'm worried.
Thanks.

[Kali]

47. Kokopeli - thought to be a trader from Mexico

also often depicted with a huge penis, but you won't find pix of those in this country very often.

[rosesaylavee]

68. Weellllll,

I could have chosen one with the HUGE phallus as my avatar but that would be a tad distracting from all the pithy and deep meaningful things I post here. :)

[IChing]

31. Chilling? Not to me.

You bet we have people watching it is a large site.

Some are hopefully learning,
some just report back to their masters,
some disrupt,
some are governmental or corporate psy-ops

but the majority are
great DUers like you, others and
LynnSin.

[rosesaylavee]

67. I agree. LynnSin has my support

as does everyone who has the courage to speak their convictions. Too bad they took it out of context - that WAS intentional or the author was just too stupid to understand the context.

[Canuckistanian]

32. I felt a slight chill myself

But I immediately warmed myself up by posting.

WTG, LynneSin! You've made "the show"!

:toast:

[rosesaylavee]

70. Just "the show" as USA Today doesn't qualify as a real newspaper

afterall... just an entertaining rag left outside hotel rooms for guests' use in wiping their shoes after glancing at the headlines.

Now, if she could get in WAPO or NYT, that would be something as they qualify as "the BIG show". They are actual functioning newspapers with articles written by career-oriented journalists who have degrees in journalism. People actually BUY these papers as they value what is written in them.

Poor, poor USA Today. Sigh.

:)

[Canuckistanian]

78. Right you are

I hear USA Today is GREAT for starting fireplaces.

[knowbody0]

24. good catch IChing

thanks

[flordehinojos]

25. LynneSin you must have stepped on someone's "one last good nerve".

Good For You!

:toast: :bounce: :applause:

[Cocoa]

27. whose fault is it that we don't trust the government?

might it have something to do with the obvious lies they tell us and the whores like Chuck Raasch that cover for them?

:mad:

[RevCheesehead]

29. Well, golly, LynneSin....

Keith seems to agree with you! :bounce::bounce:

[LynneSin]

34. He's the only cable news I watch

I have standards you know

[saltpoint]

49. You do indeed, and they're high ones, and the clowns on cable news

aren't fit to sweep your walk.

You gotta lot of pals around this neck of the woods, LynneSin. You hang in there. We're with ya.

[TankLV]

69. Gongrats on your "fame"...

[Tsiyu]

30. Gee, Chuckie, you say that like it's a bad thing

but over here at DU we've figured out that cable news is an oxymoron, while writers like you are just morans.

If you're getting news from your TV, you can't be too bright. Or didn't you know that most of the media is owned by a few mega-corps who actually make money off war and terra!terra!terra!

Oh, well. Not everyone is as bright as a DUer. You'll figure it out one day, Chuckie.

[w4rma]

37. I'm a "small-l libertarian", also. Our Bill of Rights should be protected

from dictator wannabes and toadies like the Republican leadership and the DLC.

I'm also a yellow-dog Democrat.

pro-choice, pro-guns, pro-small government, pro-*small* business, anti-cheap labor, anti-breaking the law (including illegal immigration and illegal wire tapping and illegally enforced signing statements), anti-Iraq and Lebanon war, pro-progressive taxes, anti-regressive/flat taxes, pro-education funding, pro-infrastructure funding, pro-science funding (and pro-science).

Imho, the Republican leadership *forced* the authorities to move in too early, well before the British police were comfortable with moving in, and therefore weren't able to catch as many of the conspirators as they should have, who will now no doubt try again with more knowledge about how to do this. They also have jeopardized the case against the conspirators, which is why Blair is/was pushing for the ability to detain folks for 90 days rather than conservative, well-vetted and long used ~30 days. I think he is trying to help stall for time because they *screwed up the arrests and went in well before all the evidence was there to maximize the punishment and punished*. They went in early for political, not security, reasons: To make a big splash in the news after Cheney parrot, LIEberman lost to Mr. Lamont by 4% in the primary.

Btw, cheers to LynneSin! :toast:

[IChing]

38. LynneSin can you find your post that this asshole quoted you from?

or not?

thanks

and remember

to watch more cable news from now on, mmm kay?



no offense to our mods

[Wonk]

42. link here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1874132

[IChing]

43. thanks wonk, I post the orginal below.

there were so many posts that day but here it is

I believe that the Scotland Yard tracked down and arrested 20 people who may have been plotting to blow up planes.

I believe that the people in custody were probably not Al-Qaeda. BBC said they were of 'Asian Heritage' which covers all of the MiddleEast and problem areas surrounding it. However, if the suspects were of Middle-Eastern heritage, I believe BBC would have referred to them as such.

I believe that on any given day there is probably someone out there trying to plot how to blow up planes or something else big.

I believe that our US Government had absol-fucking-lutely NOTHING to do with foiling this plot. We already know the record for cracking terrorists on planes and it's not pretty reliable

I believe that most of us have become cynical when it comes to these threats. We've banned knives, razors, lighters and a host of other objects, so they needed to come up with something new to be banned. Anyhow, banning liquids will allow the airlines to bilk it's passingers into buying overpriced drinks on their flight

And finally I believe if this event happened any other day of the year outside of the days after Joe Lieberman's defeat that this would not be covered ad nauseum over the news network. Joe Lieberman was their 'go-to' guy in the senate for the democrats; their one main proof that allows them to say "Look we work well with Democrats". Dick Cheney said YESTERDAY that the defeat of Lieberman would enable stuff JUST LIKE THIS and I believe that today, they're just emphazing that point.

[LynneSin]

45. Some of that I don't know anymore

When I kept hearing NPR and BBC (btw, I listen to public radio news, incase anyone is taking interest) and they kept saying "Asian Men" which as an American, I usually associate with those from the eastern part of Asian.

And I'll be honest, I'm still pissed at the last flight I took cross-country from Baltimore-San Diego where no meal was served and the only food was overpriced snack boxes with food so overly preserved it could survive a nuclear bomb. And they ran out of these snack boxes like the row behind me.

[IChing]

46. That is why you need to listen to

more cable news and not NPR or the BBC.
You know prices go up and down and I wouldn't be surprised by the end the month that they lowered prices........LOL...irony

YOU ARE ON NOTICE!!!!! LynneSin.......




MORE cowbells

[Maat]

44. You know, as has already been said here on DU,

an officer can always time an arrest. Things are being investigated all of the time - many complaints/investigations going on continuously. The investigating officers can decide when the arrests are going to be made. Ideally, that should be based upon when there is sufficient evidence, balanced against the danger of the suspects continuing their activities.

I remember many times, as a social worker who worked with police officers on drug-related investigations, listening to conversations about when the arrests were going to go down.

Here, there is no doubt in my mind that the U.S. put pressure on Scotland Yard to make arrests sooner rather than later.

Am I wrong?

[saltpoint]

48. I sense the problem is that cable news and USA TODAY don't read

LynneSin on DU.

Her posts make a hell of a lot more sense that 95% of the crap on either of the other two mediums.

You go, LynneSin.

[Redneck Socialist]

50. Well, since I've never heard of this tool called Chucky

Retch or whatever the fuck his name is, I'll continue to read and enjoy LynneSin's posts. USA Toady is such a great paper and all, you know, a much better source of info than DU. :eyes:

[AZBlue]

52. How embarassing! Geeezzzz

[LynneSin]

54. Embarassing how?

That I use other sources for my news other than Cable News?

[AZBlue]

71. Referring to the plot-to-charge-more-for-drinks theory actually

That doesn't exactly paint us all in the most flattering (or logical) light. Someone who's never read DU will assume we're all going off on half-cocked conspiracy theories.

[LynneSin]

75. I stand by that comment

I'm still pissed about the overpriced snack box I had to buy on my last flight from Balt-San Diego. That's a 5 hour flight, give the folks a fricking MEAL!

[LynneSin]

53. My response to Mr. Raasch

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1911001

[JNelson6563]

61. Bravo!

Nice response! :applause:

[ClassWarrior]

81. Sweeeeet.

Did you send it?

I hope you do. I'd like to see a fine LTTE like this - signed by a highly-reputable DU handle - in my morning USA Toady.

B-):thumbsup:

NGU.

[bluestateguy]

55. The writer includes a caveat:

"If you believe the government..."

And there you have it. All this nonsense about "August 22nd" requires you to believe the official line being touted by the government.

So that's the end of that for me.

[IChing]

56. I agree

She wrote a great letter to him in GD posted right now

[Stockholm]

57. They write "LynneSin must not watch much cable news"

Like it is a bad thing. :crazy:

Terra, terra, terra...

[underpants]

59. Lynne when will you ever succumb to the MSM???

:rofl:

[LynneSin]

60. When will you

:shrug:

[LSK]

62. he needs to concentrate on the weather

He doesnt need anymore confusion.

:rofl:

[LynneSin]

63. He sucks at the weather - he needs to be removed from power

I mean, I have no clue what to expect weather-wise because he won't update us with his posts

[LSK]

66. or we get a post in July about there being no snow in the forecast

:D

[Shipwack]

79. You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

Or so says Mister Dylan... :hi:

[AX10]

64. "USA TODAY" is a right wing rag.

With that said, this is another example of conservative media bias. We NEVER here anyone in the MSM attack the right wingers in the blogisphere.

:argh:

[Quantess]

73. That's true. Right wing blogs get no attention.

But, right-wing blogs and boards don't get quite as much traffic, either. Lefty sites get so much traffic and heavy usage, they get noticed.

[Spirochete]

72. LynneSin's smarter than this dipshit

How come he gets to write a column and she doesn't? She makesa a lot more sense than he does. Hmm... I'll bet that's why...

[LynneSin]

74. Even my cats are smarter!!

Then again my cats are smarter than me. Perhaps we should give them their own column

[Virginia Dare]

77. Wow, I too can become a political writer at USA Today..

all I have to do is troll DU and report back what I read.

LynneSin:

:yourock:

[Ken Burch]

86. Self-Delete

[tinfoilinfor2005]

87. If he is so worried by these terrorists, instead of beating up on

LynneSin, or any other American with a shopping list of legitimate questions, why doesn't he ask his president why our borders are not yet secure, why our homeland security has received less than a passing grade, why our ports remain seriously compromised, why why why why why???

Moron. With a capital M.

[ellie]

88. Way to go LynneSin!

I, on the other hand, am never quoted. So here are some quotes for the newspapers to use:

"I think the mainstream media is a tool of the Bush administration."

"I believe that cable news does not do a good job in telling all sides of the story."

"I think USA Today is a joke newspaper, and when I travel, I always refuse it if the hotel offers to give me one."


There, that should do it. My name is ellie. That's e-l-l-i-e.