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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:28 AM
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how can democrats......
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 05:37 AM by cleveramerican
be true to their beliefs, and deflate the oft-repeated charges of being too concerned with polls and popularity to say anything in simple terms.
I'm not asking for long-winded dissertations on public policy.
I want some simple declarative statements.
Why is it so hard for Dems to seem genuine to casual observers?

Am I alone in thinking we need less nuance?


I do think recently on Iraq we have been getting much better, but on every other subject this is a weakness for us as a party.

Cynicism has overtaken me(help!) I'm starting to think both parties are equally full of crap, but one is simply packaged better
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:03 AM
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1. complex realities defy simple sound-bites...
unless you are lying.

for every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, obvious, and wrong.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:09 AM
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2. Many of our leaders from Congress
opine using "Senate speak" but I much prefer Howard Dean`s, Wes Clark`s, or even Ned Lamont`s crisp, concise answers. That said, I`m beginning to understand how this whole mess works. You have to boil your ideas down to something that sounds good on a pale blue backdrop. That`s unfortunate because some problems are so complicated that a catchy phrase just won`t do, like Bush`s "with us or with the terrorists."

When I step away from the blather on cable news and converse with everyday Democrats, I have no problem finding genuine, powerful statements. We should hear more from the "man on the street."

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:16 AM
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3. Simple declaritive statements?
You're in the wrong party. Anyone who can make 'simple declarative statements' concerning the state of affairs in this country or the world is either a liar or a fool.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:22 AM
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4. "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!"
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:51 AM
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5. "the oft-repeated charges of being too concerned with polls..."
"...and popularity"

:wtf:

Maybe on Faux News. :eyes:

Remember how they played up the "I'd rather get fucked up with Dubya!" bullshit during the election? They are more concerned with popularity and folksy horseshit than anyone.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:23 PM
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6. who can deny the power of a polished sales pitch.
you may have the finest product but if you can't get the word out with style and grace, you will fail.


in politics this goes double.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:37 PM
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7. But to me coughing up bumper sticker phrases is bowing to
focus groups and being disingenous. The disertation is closer to the truth. I have the attention span of a gnat, mind you, but I respect the person who can quote chapter and verse re: why they feel as they do.
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