Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Rove Calls Lieberman according to George Stephanopoulos .

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:47 AM
Original message
Rove Calls Lieberman according to George Stephanopoulos .
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 11:55 AM by Pirate Smile
No wonder he keeps reciting Rovian talking points.


August 09, 2006

Rove Calls Lieberman?
That's what ABC's George Stephanopoulos reports.


According to a close Lieberman adviser, the President's political guru, Karl Rove, has reached out to the Lieberman camp with a message straight from the Oval Office: "The boss wants to help. Whatever we can do, we will do."

We haven't been able to get independent confirmation of this just yet.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/08...




George Stephanopoulos: Can Karl help Joe?



According to a close Lieberman adviser, the President's political guru, Karl Rove, has reached out to the Lieberman camp with a message straight from the Oval Office: "The boss wants to help. Whatever we can do, we will do."

But in a year where even some Republican candidates are running away from the President on the campaign trail, does this offer have any value to Lieberman? Still smarting from all that coverage of "the kiss" at last year's State of the Union, the Lieberman camp isn't looking for an explicit endorsement. That could create more problems than it solves.

The White House might help Lieberman by putting the kibosh on any move to replace the weak Republican candidate, Alan Schlesinger, with a stronger candidate.

And it might be able to convince Schlesinger to drop out of the race and endorse Lieberman in the final week or two, when it's too late for another candidate to fill the GOP slot. A quiet White House effort to steer some money in Lieberman's direction is another possibility.

This is a tricky dance for Lieberman. He needs to figure out a way to get the benefits of Bush support -- some votes from loyal Republicans -- without turning off the independents and moderate Democrats he needs to win. The safest course may be a polite "thanks but no thanks" to the White House offer.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2006/08/george_...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:49 AM
Response to Original message
1. I'd wait until independent confirmation
Rumor-mongering is a Rovian strong suit, too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
11. Lieberman didn't wait for any confirmation before accusing
their low-bandwidth website going down on "evil Ned Lamont hackers". He reaps what he has sown.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. What I'm saying is that it would reveal a person to be an
absolute idiot if they were to mentally bypass the necessary confirmation and go straight to believing an unconfirmed rumor like this one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Stephanopoulos is reporting it. Hotline obviously doesn't have the
same source so they haven't got independent confirmation.

I don't really consider it a rumor based on those facts.

I would think Steph probably has a lot of Dem insider sources considering his past work - probably more then Hotline. That source certainly didn't do Joe any favors.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. The source was probably outraged that it happened, and his loyalty
to the party and hatred towards Bush/Rove outweighed his loyalty to and fondness for Lieberman. Kudos to him, if that's the case.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #17
37. Bush's war was waged on less........
a rumor has a 50-50 chance of being true. Bush's war was waged on outright lies. So........I guess we have a whole bunch of "absolute idiots" in Washington. :shrug: I can't argue with that! ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:50 AM
Response to Original message
2. They want to work to help an indy joe beat their own party's candidate?
I'm glad CT is a Dem state, because by the time joe's clearly out as a repukewhatever, I can't imagine any Dem voting for him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:52 AM
Response to Original message
3. And Joe triumphantly proclaims political unity
with everyone but Democrats. Other restrictions may apply
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. The party of one.
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 12:02 PM by Cassandra
Sir, your tiny table is waiting for you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:54 AM
Response to Original message
4. Rove (8/9/06) - "The Boss Wants to Help. Whatever we can do." (pic)
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 11:56 AM by leveymg
Stamford, CT (8/10/06)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:55 AM
Response to Original message
5. "Whatever we can do...we will do."
That includes--but is not limited to:

--Stealing the election
--Using creative Photoshopping to suggest that your opponent molests pomeranians.
--Outing all undercover government activities in which your wife's opponent is involved.
--Starting rumors on Free Republic about your opponent's involvement in a Satanic club.
--Providing DNA evidence which proves that your opponent's children are aliens.

Let the games begin! Karl the perverted, third-class thug wants to help with a campaign!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Don't forget using classified NSA data and tapped phone calls on your
opponent, but all neatly kept away from inquiry by classifying it under "homeland security" issues.

Come on, we know they've done it. Rove is not above doing anything, no matter how low.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
7. But he voted with Democrats 90% of the time!!!
Funny how he claims to be a loyal Democrat but his best political friends are all either on Fox News or in the White House.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
8. BARF!!!! ROWLFFF!! - - - The boss? Whose boss? Liberman's?
Very revealing... as well as nauseating!

:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:22 AM
Response to Reply #8
52. I agree.
Sounds like the Mafia boss.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:05 PM
Response to Original message
10. Does anyone still not get it about Joe? He's no fucking Democrat.
When Karl Rove extends a helping hand to you.

When Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter endorse you.

YOU ARE NO FUCKING DEMOCRAT!

Joe is just a Neo-Conservative.

These fucking destroyers need to all leave the Democratic and Republican parties, and come clean with the American people. They need to form the Neo-Conservative Party and get it over with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
12. Sure, but what can Dick Cheney really do? (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:17 AM
Response to Reply #12
53. I Shudder to Think
The game plan is to keep Cheney, et al, so busy with the fires they set that they have no time for mischief--and I think that will be our best Return on Investment in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. The chaos that BushCo has created will be the downfall of the entire GOP. Sweet!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AusTexDem Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
13. Lieberman's deal with the Devil: McCain/Lieberman 08?
Will this race be a test to see how many Republicans will actually vote for Joe?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:09 PM
Response to Original message
14. This tells you every damn thing you need to know about Lieberman.
Lamont should get right on this, demand to know if Lieberman is accepting help from Rove and Bush.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:10 PM
Response to Original message
15. Let's hope he "helps"
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 12:11 PM by DemNoir
Bush is at about 20% approval here in CT. Are they really in that dense of a bubble?

If Rove/Bush come anywhere near this, Joe is dead.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:13 PM
Response to Original message
16. proof: lieberman is a tool
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
19. Rove wrote joe's talking points for debate
Or at least it seemed like it.

The odd thing with this Lieberman debacle, is like the Bush administration itself, the more it plays out, the more it tends to confirm what just a few years ago would be considered wild accusations by the far left.

In this case, it confirms that business interests will buy candidates in both parties to push their agenda. They would prefer republicans, but in states like conneticut, California, and new york, they will buy a democrat rather than give up all influence.

Somebody posted an excellent article on the DLC and the recent history of stealth takeovers of left parties by the Chamber of Commerce, not just here, but in other Western countries like Britain and New Zealand. I can't find it right now cuz I'm doing this on my phone and getting carpal thumb syndrome.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:47 PM
Response to Original message
20. Why is this NEWS
Why is Rove treated like a popstar, let him do his little dirty tricks, so what, if Joe
Lieberman has any loyalty to the people who elected him so long, he will bow out and
not let the Rovian machine starting chewing his state to pieces and democracy along with
it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #20
46. The TRAITOR, "holy" joe, has already stated that he will run as an inde.
REPEATEDLY.

He has proven time and again that he WON'T "do the right thing".

Where ever did you come up with your preposterous prediction?!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. I say give him 2 weeks, he's on overload right now
and see what develops!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:50 PM
Response to Original message
21. Rove: "Sorry the bogus website hack plan didn't work so good!"
Joe: "But you promised!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. Joe: "I'm stopping payment on that check...!"
:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. Rove: "Fine! I'll just add it to my monthly bill I send the DLC."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. Not to defend the DLC, but...
At least Evan Bayh, Hilary, Reid, and the DSCC have all come out to endorse Ned. Even they can do something "right" once and a while.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. A dlc Vice Chair has called for Joe to run as an Indy.
Seems clear enough to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #31
44. It's not about doing the right thing...
it is more a case of which way the political winds blow and covering you ass. DEM voters will no longer vote in a DINO just to have a DEM occupy that seat. This is a warning volley to DEM leaders. THAT is the message the voters are sending. All this is just PSYOP to paint the DEM's and divide us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:57 PM
Response to Original message
22. This is going to be a political dog fight...n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:07 PM
Response to Original message
24. Lieberman has sounded more and more like Rove over the past
few weeks with his insinuations that Dems (all but him of course) are weak on security and of course that we should not criticize our beloved Decider. And claiming hacks on Lamont with no proof whatsoever? Pure Rove!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #24
33. In the debate he kept using republican phrases
"There you go again..."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:17 PM
Response to Original message
27. Staph would know
He probably talks to Rove every day.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
28. I'll wait until I see some other proof of this
Rove can say all sorts of things but it doesn't mean his tactics are welcomed by Lieberman. If and when (BIG if) Lieberman accepts this "help" that's when I'll totally give up on Lieberman. I still hold out a thread of hope that he'll realize how disruptive his actions are to the Democratic Party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
29. This is GREAT news. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
30. Hey Joe, if you take help from Karl, you are nothing but a traitor! (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. He's already a traitor. Hopefully, if we can shove him far
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 01:58 PM by BullGooseLoony
enough to the right, closer to Bush (like with Rove helping him), the Dems will come home.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:55 PM
Response to Original message
32. Whoa! Sounds like Rove is offering up some of his Rovian tricks!
Deibolding, phone jamming, swift-boating, other fukt up shit. Does Rove know any other way?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:11 PM
Response to Original message
36. This Just IN: : Ned Lamont's dog disappears, his car tires are slashed..
his entire educational records vanish, ex-co-workers appear in high quality TV ads discrediting him for showing up to work.

Joe to Karl "Hey, thanks buddy"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:05 PM
Response to Original message
38. PLEASE NOTE: THEY UPDATED THE SITE
UPDATED @ 3:35p ET: Dan Gerstein called from the Lieberman campaign to say the above account from another Lieberman adviser is not accurate. While confirming that Rove called Lieberman, he added: "Rove made a personal call, no help was offered, and we are not interested regardless." A senior White House official also says that the account is "not accurate."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. Thank you
That first report seemed fishy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. NP
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #39
47. Since when do you believe ANYTHING the repuke WH has to say?
If they said the sky was blue, I'd check multiple sources first...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. I woulfn't believe either the Leiberman "camp"
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 08:00 PM by Patchuli
or the WH "senior official!"

Edited for clarity...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. You guys believed the "Lieberman official" in the original post
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #51
55. Not necessarily
but I would not put it past KKKarl's dirty tricks to offer 'help' to Mr. Loserman!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. "Not accurate"
Interesting. What IS the accurate account then? A condolence call? A cake and a Bible via Fedex?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:00 PM
Response to Original message
41. Imagine October polls (R)34, (I)33, (D)33.
And he thinks the CT insurgency is bad now?

(R)25, (I)37, (D)38 would be a different story. Hmmz.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #41
50. I still think the use of the word "insurgency" in a political
campaign is pretty suspect! We are American citizens, NOT insurgents! Joe is framing his own countrymen in a very ugly repub way. This IS America; we are FREE to disagree with Holy Joe! Holy crap...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:09 PM
Response to Original message
42. Frankly, moron* and rove offering help is the kiss of death these days...
if it's true, of course.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. "I know it was you
Fredo. I know it was you. You broke my heart." Micheal Corleone
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:42 AM
Response to Original message
54. " The Boss wants to help"? - Create a diversion, mix things up
The Boss isn't crazy about hearing media buzz about "the kiss" and how much the public is hearing the phrase; "Bush's failed policies" - so many Rove can muster up a al-kaeda attack attempt, somethinmg to take over the front pages right now.
Because right now doesn't look to good come November if you get my drift Joe...!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar 24th 2019, 03:52 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC