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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:27 AM
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There's no way Lamont will win in the general election (the broken record)
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 12:44 AM by rpannier
Lamont may have been able to pull out a primary victory but in the general election everybody gets to vote and Joe has a high favorability rating among people of all political ideologies. He will do well with conservatives, moderates and liberals...
(Sound familiar???????)

Cut to last spring

There's no way Lamont will beat Lieberman in the primary. Lieberman is a very popular Senator. He is too far ahead in the polls. Lieberman has solid support among all Democrats. Lamont is a one-trick pony...


On edit:
Apparantly I was not clear enough in my original post. What the pundits and Joe-apologists are saying today is what they said last spring when they claimed Ned couldn't win the Dem primary. Hence my reference to "(Sound familiar???) and Cut to last spring"They were wrong then and they'll probably be wrong again.
My apologies again.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:30 AM
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1. I can think of one way... Joe drops out like he should.
Though I think it is quite likely that you are, in fact, not correct about that and Ned can pull it off.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:42 AM
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11. My point was/is
the pundits are saying Ned can't beat Joe in the general election because...blah...blah...blah

Last spring they said Ned couldn't beat Joe in the primaries because...blah...blah...blah.

It's the same broken record. Hence my reference to last spring. The pundits were wrong then and they're probably wrong now.

My apologies for not being clear enough
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:50 AM
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19. Sorry, I'm up past bedtime.
Though, sarcasm tags always work, no matter how tired the audience.

:sarcasm: <-- see, very attention getting, much like those red lights with strobes in them :-)



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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:57 AM
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20. True, but...
...they don't work in subject lines. And that's all people see in a forum or site index.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:31 AM
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2. Yea...it sounds like a scratch on a vinyl record.....
but the public has moved to 8 track tapes.....the public has seen the new fangled Music CD's and are amazed....Republican spin....will it go round in circles....
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:32 AM
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3. Lieberman has a "big fat LOSER" sign on him now
Why would a GOPer vote for him when they can vote for a GOPer?

Why would a Dem vote for him when they can vote for a Dem?

Independents don't want to vote for a guy who has a big fat loser sign hanging around his neck.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:37 AM
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9. Yup. And he's a traitor. nt
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:33 AM
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4. media electioneering at its worst
these a$$ holes are scum. Now im waiting for him to be Deaned, they just need to find the right audio clip...
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:33 AM
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5. Too far ahead in the polls?
The latest poll puts Liebermand and Lamont tied at 40%.

Better double check your "facts".
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:37 AM
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8. My point was/is
the pundits are saying Ned can't beat Joe in the general election because...blah...blah...blah

Last spring they said Ned couldn't beat Joe in the primaries because...blah...blah...blah.

It's the same broken record. Hence my reference to last spring. The pundits were wrong then and they're probably wrong now.

My apologies for not being clear enough
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:43 AM
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13. Wow, really different from your thread title...
You can go in and change the title of your thread to clarify what you meant, ya know.

Poor Joe.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:47 AM
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16. My apologies back! I get what you're saying now
:blush:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:33 AM
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6. Connecticut is a blue state
And Lieberman is not a blue man. Your statement just doesn't add up.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:40 AM
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10. My point was/is
the pundits are saying Ned can't beat Joe in the general election because...blah...blah...blah

Last spring they said Ned couldn't beat Joe in the primaries because...blah...blah...blah.

It's the same broken record. Hence my reference to last spring. The pundits were wrong then and they're probably wrong now.

My apologies for not being clear enough
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:59 AM
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21. see #16
Posted in the wrong place.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:44 AM
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15. A blue state that will re-elect a Republican governor in a landslide
Blue doesn't always mean reflexively left-wing. Lieberman is going to try to cast himself as the reasonable alternative to the left-wing and right-wing party nominees. Moderate Republicans have fared pretty well, and Weicker was elected governor as an independent.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:01 AM
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22. Difference is Weicker IS reasonable
Joe, not so much.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:36 AM
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7. Ah, but Democrats aren't the only ones fed up with Bushco
The Republicans (not the RW crazies and neocons, but traditional Republicans) and Independents are, too.

I think that LieberBUSH is making a major mistake. What hubris! And we all know where that gets someone!

Joe Joe Joe must go go go.

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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:44 AM
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14. Yes, nutmeggers don't like shrubs:
Connecticut Bush appoval: 30% disapproval: 68%
from Survey USA as of 7/18/06:
http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StateBushApproval060718State.htm

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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:42 AM
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12. We'll have a better idea in a few weeks
It's hard to gauge the impact of a primary loss on Lieberman. While his support among Democrats will probably go down, the primary loss could theoretically help him among independents and Republicans, a group of voters that outnumbers registered Democrats in the state by a significant margin.

Lieberman may have been helped in a way by the polls a week ago showing him losing by double digits, since a narrow loss doesn't seem like as big a deal. But we'll see.

The big question marks I see are (1) to what extent will the state and national Democratic Party pour resources into the Lamont campaign and (2) to what extent will the Republicans rally behind their nominee.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:47 AM
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17. You got that right. Joe won't have much luck finding pro-bush votes
The Republican party in CT is down right purple. A few months ago the republican support for Bush was less then 60% and I am sure that if the state has been following along with the national curve that we will find Bush support even lower now in CT.

With the republican party only making up 30% of the voters in CT if only half of them are pro-Bush that gives Lieberman a whopping 15% of their vote. Even if Lieberman wins the republican voters it will not be by much and Ned is sure to take the far greater majority of democratic and independent voters.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:48 AM
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18. Rasmussen Poll: Lamont (D) 40%, Lieberman (I) 40%, Schlesinger (R) 13%


"July 23, 2006
Support for Senator Joe Lieberman (D) is plummeting in Connecticut.

Just last month he mustered a fifteen-point lead over Ned Lamont in a projected three-way general election contest (with Lamont as the Democrat and Lieberman as an Independent). Now, Lieberman’s lead has disappeared. In this month’s three-way match-up, Lamont and Lieberman each get 40% of the vote. The Republican, Alan Schlesinger, attracts just 13%.

In April, Lamont could pull only 20% in the three-way, just half what he grabs now."

link:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/State%20Polls/July%202006/connecticutSenateJuly.htm
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