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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:36 PM
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Need help debunking - just got one of those "cute" little
emails about reviewing history and how "every" single problem in the US was caused by a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

I've seen it before and someone had posted a great response using white guys as the terrorists and couldn't find it through search - does anyone know where it is so I can reply to everyone on this person's CC: list?
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:43 PM
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1. Every single problem?!
You mean, male Muslim extremists between 17 and 40 are to blame for:

- homelessness;

- corporate crime (think Enron);

- corrupt K Street lobbyists like Jack Abramoff;

- our 2,560 dead soldiers in Iraq (seems Mr. Bush is more to blame for that);

- all those GOP criminals who are currently under indictment (every one of whom is white);

- media consolidation;

- racially-based hate crimes;

- AIDS and other fatally incurable diseases;

- people crossing our border illegally;

Wow! Who knew that young male Muslim extremists had so much influence in America today?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:51 PM
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2. You mean like Tim McVeigh?
the reproductive clinic bombers? The NC soldier who killed mixed race couples? Go to Morris Dees's web site for a long list.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:21 PM
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6. Thanks, here's what I put together and sent back. Not to
change their mind, but to at least point out the hypocricy and racist ideals. I refuse to remain silent.


Wow! Who knew that young male Muslim extremists had so much influence in America today? But I’m a little confused.

Timothy McVeigh was a young, male Muslim extremist between 17 and 40? I thought he was a white Christian who blew up the Federal Building in OK killing 168 people.

Ted Kazinsky was a young, male Muslim extremist between 17 and 40? I thought he was a white Christian known as the Unibomber

Clayton Waagner was a young, male Muslim extremist between 17 and 40? I thought he was a white Christian who blew up clinics here in the states

Eric Rudolph was a young, male Muslim extremist between 17 and 40? I thought he was a white Christian who was convicted of setting bombs at the Atlanta Olympic Games

Robert Goldstein was a young, male Muslim extremist between 17 and 40? I thought he was a white Jewish man who plotted to blow up Islamic mosques here in the US

William Krar was a young, male Muslim extremist between 17 and 40? I thought he was a white Christian who, along with Judith Brumley planned to use cyanide to poison thousands of people in Texas

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were young, male Muslim extremists between 17 and 40? I thought they were white Christians who went on a shooting spree at Columbine HS – killing several of their classmates and teachers

George Metesky was a young, male Muslim extremist between 17 and 40? I thought he was a white Christian, known as the Mad Bomber, who bombed a theater and claimed to be the “Hand of God”

David Berkowitz was a young, male Muslim extremist between 17 and 40? I thought he was a white Christian who was a serial killer

The members of Aryan Nation, or the National Alliance are young, male Muslim extremists between 17 and 40? I thought they were all white Christians – determined to wipe out those who are different from them

The FBI has a secret report highlighting threats of domestic terrorism from right wingers, supremacists, and others. Examples include Aryan Nation, the National Alliance and other ticking time bombs.

Meanwhile, although the media covers the fact that domestic extremist groups such as the Army of God, the Ku Klux Klan, and many others are a threat to America, the Department of Homeland Security have listed radical animal rights and environmental groups as threats to America, but deliberately left out all the right wing potentially dangerous and extremist groups, such as white supremacists, anti-abortion bombers and violent militiamen. Experts on extremism have warned that these groups are ticking time bombs. U.S. Representative Bennie Thompson even wrote to the Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff reminding him of such threat, on the 10th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing by Timothy McVeigh.

Can you say: biased agenda?


Nope, .I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave White Christian Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling. Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Jerry Falwells and other dunder-headed attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel doubly ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense. As the writer of the award winning story "Forrest Gump" so aptly put it, "Stupid is as stupid does."

Come on people wake up!!! Keep this going. Pass it on to everyone in your address book. Our Country and our troops need our support.

I couldn’t agree more – and if we don’t wake up to the current threat within the US borders from our own homegrown religious fundamentalist terrorists and groups – then the US will be destroyed from within – and bin Laden will have gotten everything he’s wished for. Their words, and their actions are too similar to be ignored any longer.


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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:27 PM
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7. That was a very good reply.
I'm sure they'll ignore it and start talking about the clenis, but you did a good job collating that list. Good job!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:54 PM
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3. I debunk by pressing "Delete"
Save yourself the trouble of responding to people who aren't interested in your opinion.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:05 PM
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4. I agree.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:44 PM
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5. I didn't think that guy who bombed women's clinics
was a Muslim-in fact, I think he was a Christian. The KKK isn't a Muslim organization, and skinheads aren't Muslim either.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:29 PM
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8. I love how they usually put Sirhan Sirhan on that list
As if these fuckers weren't clicking their heels and doing the happy dance when RFK was offed. Needless to say, he would have trounced Tricky Dicky by 8-10%, sparing the country a great deal of pain, death, and humiliation.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:14 PM
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10. Also, I think he is Christian...
and still doesn't really know WHY he shot RFK in the first place, at least, last I heard..
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:17 PM
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9. Don't dignify it with a response.

If an email like that makes specific, potentially believable claims, then it's sometimes worth checking them out and debunking them if they're false.

However, if this email is claiming that Pearl Harbour, the Civil War and the Great Depression were caused by Muslim males then just ignore it.
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