Contact the DNC about RFK's piece that Ohio was stolen .... Kerry too.

[Botany]

Repost.

The media is using their silence as a way to refute the "stolen election" story. "They" are working to kill
this story 24/7. We need to bitch and raise hell .... and our leaders need to lead or get the hell out of the
way. Kerry can not remain silent on this issue.

RFK put the facts out and documented them .... Kerry won Ohio .... This not about being a sore loser but
fighting theft of our democracy by truly evil people.

Contacting the DNC

Mailing Address:
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

Main Phone Number:
202-863-8000

Ask to speak to someone on the chairmen's staff.

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact (email form)

Kerry Contact stuff.

http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/contact/email.cfm

Washington D.C.
304 Russell Bldg.
Third Floor
Washington D.C. 20510
[phone] - Phone
[phone] - Fax

Boston
One Bowdoin Square
Tenth Floor
Boston, MA 02114
[phone] - Phone
[phone] - Fax

Springfield
Springfield Federal Building
1550 Main Street
Suite 304
Springfield, MA 01101
[phone] - Phone
[phone] - Fax

Fall River
222 Milliken Place
Suite 312
Fall River, Ma 02721
[phone] - Phone
[phone] - Fax

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the...

[wisteria]

1. I think the DNC should comment on it, but Kerry has already and

I think he should keep it where it is.
I know what you mean though, they are killing the story. I heard not a mention on the Sunday programs I watched or even anything in my local paper.

[kimpossible]

2. They're using Kerry's silence as an excuse. K&R!

to discount the story. Kerry should find his spine and make a statement now, to take the air out of that right wing talking point.

[txb]

3. agreed! where is kerry on this?!?

other than being the ALBATROSS hanging around the neck of the Election Fraud Debate that is....

shame!

[Botany]

6. Call his office.

I did and they said "Kerry has no statement on the article at this time."

Right, he is too busy fighting the swift boats now.

I worked my ass off for him in Ohio for free ...... and his silence on this kills me.

[blm]

18. He did say electronic voting machines should be banned state by state.

.

[Botany]

4. Egg Zac Lee

Kerry and the DNC have to get off their asses and say something now.

Silence = death of democracy

The data is there in Kennedy's article and it would give him cover. Let the
republicans defend the indefensible.

[rhett o rick]

5. The American public is in denial about this. They don't want to believe

that our election system is in the tank. Of course the media is in the pocket of the neocons.

[madfloridian]

7. Dean and Kerry did respond in the RS article:

"Kerry conceded, however, that the widespread irregularities make it impossible to know for certain that the outcome reflected the will of the voters. ''I think there are clearly states where it is questionable whether everybody's vote is being counted, whether everybody is being given the opportunity to register and to vote,'' he said. ''There are clearly barriers in too many places to the ability of people to exercise their full franchise. For that to be happening in the United States of America today is disgraceful.''

Kerry's comments were echoed by Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee. ''I'm not confident that the election in Ohio was fairly decided,'' Dean says. ''We know that there was substantial voter suppression, and the machines were not reliable. It should not be a surprise that the Republicans are willing to do things that are unethical to manipulate elections. That's what we suspect has happened, and we'd like to safeguard our elections so that democracy can still be counted on to work.''

Now I don't know if Dean spoke for most Democrats, you know how they all say he does not speak for them....but he did comment.

Edit for the link to page 4 of the article;
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/4

[madfloridian]

8. My question: did you read it?

Before you just assumed no statements had been made? To the people saying Kerry did, but they did not know if Dean did....his comments are right under Kerry's. If you read one, how do you miss the other?

[txb]

9. as stated above: try calling Kerry's office....see what they have to say

....NOTHING...

KERRY and the rest of the Dems just wish this issue would be swept back under the carpet.

the LESS people talk about the STOLEN ELECTION

the less Kerry & the Dems come out looking completely GUTLESS & WEAK.

Kerry's concession was a sad day for Americans, and a double-cross against those who worked so hard in the campaign effort.

and his SILENCE regarding the issue since then is a DISGRACE.

millions of us REMEMBER the THEFT of ELECTION 2004.

those are millions of votes for OTHER DEMOCRATIC NOMINEES in the primary season.

[madfloridian]

11. More of what he said in the article at RS

"Sen. John Kerry -- in a wide-ranging discussion of ROLLING STONE's investigation -- expressed concern about Republican tactics in 2004, but stopped short of saying the election was stolen. ''Can I draw a conclusion that they played tough games and clearly had an intent to reduce the level of our vote? Yes, absolutely. Can I tell you to a certainty that it made the difference in the election? I can't. There's no way for me to do that. If I could have done that, then obviously I would have found some legal recourse.''"

There is more there to read. You may not like what he said, you may not like what Dean said....but they did have comments for the articles.

I really don't see how it is fair to say they did not comment.

[txb]

12. agreed....i think it is more appropriate to say that

his comments were about as WEAK as his performance during his concession speech where he became little more than the politician credited with an ASSIST of GWB/Karl Rove's THEFT OF THE ELECTION.

kerry: "...but stopped short of saying the election was stolen...."

to millions of us that reads: "but stopped short of defending the democracy that was stolen in Nov 2004"

or : "stopped short of honoring the thousands and thousands of hours of labor that went for naught"

etc...etc...etc....

Kerry is a tired, old relic from perhaps the DARKEST Election the Dems ever had.

his LACK OF WORDS or ACTIONS regarding Election Theft 2004 is disgusting and revolting.

we need to elect a Democratic Presidential Nominee who will stay & FIGHT.

not another Kerry who will step-aside for the neo-cons to pass when the going gets tough.

[madfloridian]

13. Those are terrible things to say.

about fellow Democrats.

[txb]

14. agreed! especially tough things to say about a candidate (kerry)

who I believed, when he said "every vote will be counted" and spoke of his war chest of finances and lawyers to fight 'any election irregularities' come election day.

i traveled from northern california (my home) to delray beach in palm beach county FLA where i spent 3 days working with the democratic activists as well as a full day on election day with election protection. there were 2 lawyers and 3 other volunteers like myself stationed at our precinct....

which adds up to SIX TOTAL volunteers who left their jobs/homes/lives for a little while to help DEFEND AN ELECTION that John Kerry said he would defend as well.

believe me, we'd never felt so abandoned and "used" before in our lives.

does John Kerry think we are SUCKERS?
does he think we don't REMEMBER what he did when action meant more than words? --> NOTHING.

does he think that we would gladly put our lives ON HOLD *again* and do the same thing in Election 2008?

damn straight we will!
however, we will DEMAND A CANDIDATE WHO IS ALSO UP FOR THE TASK.
John Kerry is not THAT candidate. He proved that November 2004.

what a shame.

[madfloridian]

15. You were proved wrong in your assertion, but you keep attacking.

Something is wrong with this picture.

You made it sound like he said nothing, I showed you both Kerry and Dean did...and you keep attacking Kerry viciously.

[txb]

16. uh...no. i wasn't proved wrong. i read the quotes from dean/kerry

in the RS article and I don't believe those quotes to really be saying much of anything.

Kerry and Dean had their moment when their voices WERE DESPERATELY NEEDED to halt the stolen election of 2004 and they missed it.

they abandoned every single one of us who sacrificed for the election, as i explained in the previous post...which you conveniently just IGNORED.

you IGNORE the labor & dedication of democratic volunteers much like your hero, John Kerry.

but as one of thousands of volunteers who were faced with sad plane flights, car drives, or bus rides back home in early November 2004 with the bitter taste of defeat and betrayal on our tongues....we won't forget.

we will continue to work to make sure that the Dems nominate a reliable Presidential Nominee....one who won't scurry away when it is time to FIGHT.

go ahead & entertain yourself and other Kerry mouthpieces by twisting my words.....that is your choice.

but I know that any REASONED mind who reads my posts will understand the heartbreak & anguish that the democratic activists were handed on Election Fraud 2004 by Mr. Kerry.
they will also understand (if not agree) why many of us are unable to support Kerry in 2008.

i'm certain that your silly circular protests will be dismissed as just so many sour grapes.

good day.

[madfloridian]

17. Would you let Kerry supporters know I am a mouthpiece for him?

They think I am their enemy. :shrug:

I share your anger about elections gone wrong, but I think our leaders are being cautious in a dangerous political climate. I think more is being done than you think.

[TayTay]

19. I don't think you are an enemy Madflo

Really I don't. One of the best political events I attended this year was in Worcester, Mass back in early March. Kerry staff people and folks hired by and working for Gov. Dean at the DNC co-presented a forum on the 50 State strategy that Dean has been promoting.

Everyone worked together for a common purpose. The Kerry staff people and former staff people were in strong support of what current DNC people and former Dean staffers were doing. That is how it should be, both sides working for a common purpose.

[txb]

20. well you had me fooled! ;-)

seriously!

glad to hear that you feel the burn regarding STOLEN ELECTIONS like so many of us do, heck with a handle like "madfloridian" you were likely up to your neck in it on Election 2004 just like I was. WAH!
not to bag on Florida (got a grandmother & an aunt out there.....their votes cancel one another out, every election) but that state has really fallen under the grip of some dark forces it felt at times.
i remember going there a lad, and going back for election protection i was struck that if i didn't hurry back to florida it would likely be completely developed by the next time i was there.

I really....REALLY hope that "more is being done than I think" re: elections....but I have my doubts.
and i think that TOO MUCH CAUTION is what makes all political climates more dangerous.

anyways, i'm working with the registrar of voters locally, got trained on the new PAPER-VERIFICATION machine a couple days ago and we will be running 4 of the convoluted devices (SEQUOIA) come tomorrow morning at 7am....6am for us workers.

coffee. is. spiritual.

thanks & gratitude to RFK & Rolling Stone for (finally) getting this issue into the MSM

peace...

[TayTay]

10. Please contact Sen. Chris Dodd as well

He is the Dem Ranking Member on the Senate Rules committee which has oversight on legislation involving national elections and how they are run.

Kerry is not on this committee and has co-spoonsored legislation that addresses what went wrong in the last election. Getting in touch with those who actually might get this legislation out of committee might actually help.

Of course, that would involve trying to figure out how the legislative process actually works and that is just too much work for too many people. It's better for them to simply fire arrows blindly into the air and pray that one of them lands at or near their target. Too bad. Applying pressure to the actual areas where it might do some good might actually make a difference.

But, by all means, fire another blind arrow. We don't need actual change, right, just the some place to put anger.