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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:54 PM
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The 'Anger Candidate"
No, this thread is about no one.

It is about an ideal - the "Anger Candidate"

The country is mightily pissed off. And that pissed offedness is on all sides. Our side is pissed at the outrage mounded atop outrage. The list is too long and a sampling is inadequate. Every part of our government and every private institution that should serve the public weal are diminished, compromised, or emasculated. American democracy is, indeed, on life support, and the cardiac trace is weak.

The right is also pissed off. Nearly as much as our side. They're genetically predisposed to be pissed at us, reason be damned, so that should go without saying. But now they're pissed at each other. The religiously insane are pissed that they've not seen the vice grip of Christofacism have the screws tightened. The hawks think we're wimping on Iraq and Iran. The big multinationals, as entities, are happy, but the fiscal conservatives who populate their boardrooms are not.

The winner of the campaign for the heart of America will be an angry person. He will be the populist version of Peter Finch's Howard Beal, and he **will** be unwilling to take it anymore. He'll model visceral anger in a way that will connect viscerally with the citizenry - right and left.

To be sure, he'll not gain any connection if he's a kook. He'll have facts and figures, be able to cite specifics and have a very firm grasp on the horror that is the reality of today's America. He'll also have solutions based on reason and vision. And he'll advocate for those positions based on reason and reality, not on his anger. He will call out the malefactors by name and for specific actions.

The manner in which he models his anger could vary widely. He could be the loud voice type. Or he could be the very quiet, seething type. He could model the anger by clear, direct speech, or specific recitation of the facts of the failings. But his anger will be widely directed. We live in what can rightly be termed a target rich environment when it comes to the objects of our national ire. Our angry candidate will know them all and call out them all.

Our angry candidate will not be fully representative of your views and he will not be fully representative my views - or 'their' views. But you **will** know where he stands.

And where he doesn't stand.

He doesn't stand for the criminals running our country. He will, in his own way, strongly and clearly rail against them.

He doesn't stand for the rapacious corporatists who have stolen our country. He will, in his own way, strongly and clearly rail against them.

He doesn't stand for the war hawks pushing our country to greater feats of misadventure and empire. He will, in his own way, strongly and clearly rail against them.

He doesn't stand for the doves who would prefer our country stand naked and defenseless. He will, in his own way, strongly and clearly rail against them.

He doesn't stand for the xenophobes who would see our country divided by race, class, religion, and ethnicity. He will, in his own way, strongly and clearly rail against them.

He doesn't stand for those who would see our country as a safety net for the citizens of a country with a failed economy. He will, in his own way, strongly and clearly rail against them.

He will angrily advocate for nothing less that what's right and good - as he sees it.

He will be a Democrat. And will win. He will be the darling of the ***vast*** middle of the populace, the 75% of the country that sees things just like you and me.

He will be angry. When his opponents lie about him, he will face them directly, look them in the eye, and say, clearly and angrily: "You are a liar and you know you're lying."

He will be angry. When his opponent tries to deceive, obfuscate, or change the debate, how will face him directly, look him in the eye, and say, clearly and angrily: "That is not the issue. You know it is not the issue, and so do I."

There will be no successful swiftboating and there will be no wedges. There will be no internet invention. There will be no obfuscation of failed National Guard careers or insider trading the stock of failing companies. The meaning of 'is' will be clear. There will be no Arbusto or Love Story ambiguity.

He will be too angry for that.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:15 PM
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1. And when he says
"They're just LYING again they're Republicans" Everyone will agree without question.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:19 PM
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2. the voters will be looking for competence
Democratic voters have been angry for 5 and a half years - that's a given.

the independents who will decide the elections are looking for competence, imo.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:22 PM
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4. A couple of things .........
The voters are angry .... some candidates don't seem to be.

The middle - the independents - are no less angry. By dint of the lack of party identificatkion, they're angrier, cuz they're angered at both sides.

There's no way we see polls at all levels of government in the 30% without pissed off voters - across the board.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:32 PM
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10. will the voter's anger automatically make them vote for the
"angry" candidate?

I don't see it. Angry voters are more likely to channel that anger against someone rather than for someone.

Look to some recent races -

Hackett was the "angry" candidate - he dropped out because it was obvious he wouldn't win the primary.

Howard Dean comes to mind. He was the "angry" candidate. He fired a lot of people up - yet he lost - decisively.

I don't at all think it's a given that voters will automatically vote for someone because they feel that someone shares their anger.

In fact, I think that anger in a candidate, the sort you describe anyway, can be a real turn off for a lot of voters out there.

just my opinion.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:37 PM
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11. The enemy of my enemy is my friend
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:19 PM
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3. Sounds like Al Gore
The real President of the United States
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:23 PM
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5. An Anger Candidate...
will never get angry Republicans and angry Democrats together behind him. Republicans and Democrats are angry about different things. Republicans are angry about the war because it has not escalated to a point where the insurgency can be crushed. Democrats are angry because the troops aren't brought home.

A large part of the Republican base is angry because Bush is not CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH. How will an "Anger Candidate" appeal to those voters and still appeal to more progressive Democrats?

The President's low numbers worry me in a way. With his numbers in the toilet, why have not approval numbers for Democrats not taken off. The President is driving away people in huge numbers, but not too many of them are running into our camp.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:28 PM
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6. I disagree
First, righteous anger is righteous anger. It is non-partisan.

The war is hardly the only issue.

People who are pissed know what's right. They want reason more than smoke and mirrors and wedge issues.

As they will not all agree with everything, neither will they walk away if they aren't in complete agreement.

An "I've had it with all of them" attitiude is exactly what we need.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:41 PM
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7. There are things people will not compromise on.
Ifr the anger candidate was 100% prolife with no exceptions, would he get your vote? If the anger candidate was a homophobe would he get your vote? Do you think an anger candidate who championed gay marriage would get convervatives to vote for him?

There are many things I would not compromise on. Ever. I believe that a lot of people feel the same way.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:40 PM
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12. A righteous anger candidate would, by definition, not be
pro life or homophobic. A candidate like that would be better labeled for what he would be. A demigogue.

There is simply nothing in the realm of what is right (as in 'correct', not ploitical leaning) that would cause an anger candidate to espouse those positions.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:25 PM
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14. So then...
an anger candidate would not appeal to everyone who was angry then.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:30 PM
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15. No, probably not .......
..... he'd only appeal to the sane people.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:40 PM
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16. And that is sad.
But it is also a good thing. Maybe they will get chased so far to the right, they won't ever come back.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:59 PM
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8. Excellent analysis. Absolutely on target.
There is, as you say, a deep current of rage - not
just anger, but honest-to-gosh shrieking, fist
waving rage - about the way things are going.

The man (yes, probably it will be a male) who taps
those emotions will be swept into office.

What he does after that - how he focuses and directs
the fury of the populace - may be the defining
moment of our lives.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:00 PM
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9. Recommended. Strongly Recommended. n/t
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:51 PM
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13. Now let us just be able to get around the Punditry (which is 100% GOP).
The pundit mafia is already smearing Democrats as being "angry", which to the pundits, is a bad thing. 60%+ of Americans are "angry"!!!


Wes Clark 08'!
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