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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:24 PM
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Oh GIVE ME A BREAK!!! My Diebold selected Senator Isakson (GA-R)
Just used a rural colloquialism on the Senate floor where he started it off with "...in my DEEP SOUTH Georgia, we have a saying..."

OH Give ME A BREAK Johnny! You are from the North-West part of Metro Atlanta, hardly "Deep South Georgia!!!"

O.K., to many people, Georgia is the "Deep South," but I think to most Southerners, Marietta in Cobb County, Georgia does not qualify.

Here's a link to the NPR audio I just heard. It should be there by 7:00pm or you might find it a few other places too (I think this is it, though they have other Diebold selected senators name on the story): <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5409104>

<http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cgi-bin/newmemberbio.cgi?lang=&member=GAJR&site=ctc>
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:30 PM
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1. I like your descprition of him.
I am going to start using that in my letters to them from now on.


Dear Senator Diebold selected Isaakson,

You and your lapdog republican can eat blah ,blah ,blah



CC to my adopted Senators : Kennedy,Clintonn,Feingold
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:34 PM
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3. He's still one rung higher on the ladder than SackofShit Chambliss
our other senator.

My Deep South Georgia? Give me a fucking break.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:18 PM
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7. I always put "Diebold selected" before Senator, Governor or Rep...
..., but what ever work for you, it's up to you. I just can no longer refer to any of my government representative without it anymore, just like I will never refer to Bush jr. without using * or pResident.

Sadly it even applies to our State Senate and House now too.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:33 PM
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2. I HEARD him today! I yelled the same think as you, at my TV!
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! And as a fellow Georgian, I KNOW Meritta is sure NOT the deep south! In fact, I'd bet his neighbors never even heard of the language he was using!

I guess he figured if Shrub can pretend to be a cowboy, HE can pretend to be a deep south Geortian with a heavy drawl!
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:35 PM
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4. Well I guess he knows exactly what I'm saying when I say to him:
Bless his heart.

What did we do to deserve these two idiots?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:43 PM
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5. LOL! "Bless his heart"
That's Great RubyDuby! :rofl:

Though you might have to explain to the non-Southerners what that actually means, so they know what we are laughing about.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:48 PM
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6. "Bless his heart"
Translation in this instance: Jesus H. Christ on a Trailer Hitch, you are one dumb son of a bitch. You are an embarrassment to this state and if you were on fire, I wouldn't piss on you for fear of putting it out.

"Bless his heart" is said, of course, in my thick southern drawl to convey the actual amount of disgust I have for him.
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TheVirginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:18 PM
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8. Didn't Isakson win by 18 points, 58-40?
Exactly how did Diebold manage an 18-point swing? I mean, every single poll had Isakson up before the election. Majette was never a strong candidate.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:26 PM
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9. Let's demand a paper trail and remove all doubt anyway.
You may have some reason to trust these guys, but I wouldt know what it is.

If a computer can give one a one point swing, it can give someone an 18 point swing.

If you have the capacity to fake 2 entire nations into a war, then it is arguable that you have the capacity to fudge a few points in an election.
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TheVirginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:35 PM
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13. My larger point is this (to everybody)...
Yeah, Ohio looked suspicious in 2004. Yeah, Florida was a mess in 2000. There are typical irregularities, and there are flat-out injustices.

But if I'm trying to convince someone, be it an independent, a moderate, a Republican, an apathetic, or a reporter, about electoral fraud and they ask me for convincing examples, then the worst thing I can do is start talking about how every Republican elected in the last eight years has been because of Diebold or fraud. Sure, there are things that must be looked into, and I fully support investigatory and legal action. But the only way that this movement is going to gain traction is if there is a groundswell of support, and that support will always be choked off as soon as this type of shit comes out.

And this is a larger problem than just electoral fraud, but its a very pertinent example. The majority of those who post on this board seem to enjoy more posting here on "The Underground", being a Weatherman and a rebel, raging against the machine and all that nonsense, even though when they're not on this board they're out driving their car, interacting with other people, and living their lives as normally as anybody else. And instead of trying to create a situation that would cause the most benefit, they simply sit here and fume, and rant, and theorize, and blame, and judge. And soon voting irregularities in Ohio becomes a systematic, nation-wide conspiracy to commit fraud on every level.

If you want to see change in this country, real change, then find a convincing point and irrefutable proof, and stick to it. Focus small and aim big. The rest can snowball from there, but you'll never make it to the top of the hill by going after everything, and you surely won't make it very far if you are constantly inventing creatures in the night that steal your votes.

I don't know all the facts, and I'd like to, which is why I think we should open up what happened in Ohio in 2004 and make sure it doesn't happen again. But some things need to be put to rest. The majority of Georgians voted Johnny Isakson as their Senator, and any allegation otherwise is just absurd. Addressing him as "Diebold Selected Senator" is just fucking petty, and I guarantee you the only thing that happens to that piece of mail is it gets read in his correspondence office, and a 25-year old staffer opens it, laughs openly at it, shares it with his colleagues who also laugh at it, then chuck it in the trash. If you want to be taken seriously, then act like it. If you want to just sit behind your computer and continually bemoan how the evil Republicans are out to get you, then by all means keep up the good work. But I shudder everytime I see this whackjob nonsense, because I know its one step backwards towards a neccesary goal, and its another example of what's reasonably referred to as being a sore loser.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:15 PM
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14. I like everything except your last paragraph...
I could care less whether some snot-nose staffer thinks a concerned voter is being petty. No one expects those boot-lickers to do anything about it anyway.

I prefer to continue to raise doubts until more people are discussing it, one way or the other.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:39 AM
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15. Well, "Bless his heart*", at least he's got good puctuation...
...for a disruptor without any proof or links to back up his rhetoric.

*see post #6 for definition.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:49 PM
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10. So what? I'd bet a ton of money he didn't ACTUALLY win by 18 pts
even if he won, and he might well have won. As soon as one of these faux Diebold elections is recounted and the obvious is discovered, the dam might break.
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:31 PM
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11. here are the diebold results
ISAKSON MAJETTE BUCKLEY
(R) (D) (Lib)
1,864,205 1,287,695 69,051
57.9% 40.0% 2.1%

so an 8 % swing is easy with Diebold they just too much room to doubt everything.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:58 PM
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12. The same way they managed a 16 point swing to replace Governor Barnes...
...with a Past President of the "Georgia and Southeastern Feed and Grain Association."

Do you have any PROOF that they didn't steal this election? No, you wouldn't because an actual recount is impossible without a physical paper trail. :mad:

All the President's votes?


From Independent.co.uk, October 13, 2003
By Andrew Gumbel

Something very odd happened in the mid-term elections in Georgia last November. On the eve of the vote, opinion polls showed Roy Barnes, the incumbent Democratic governor, leading by between nine and 11 points. In a somewhat closer, keenly watched Senate race, polls indicated that Max Cleland, the popular Democrat up for re-election, was ahead by two to five points against his Republican challenger, Saxby Chambliss.

Those figures were more or less what political experts would have expected in state with a long tradition of electing Democrats to statewide office. But then the results came in, and all of Georgia appeared to have been turned upside down. Barnes lost the governorship to the Republican, Sonny Perdue, 46 per cent to 51 per cent, a swing of as much as 16 percentage points from the last opinion polls. Cleland lost to Chambliss 46 per cent to 53, a last-minute swing of 9 to 12 points.

Red-faced opinion pollsters suddenly had a lot of explaining to do and launched internal investigations. Political analysts credited the upset - part of a pattern of Republican successes around the country - to a huge campaigning push by President Bush in the final days of the race. They also said that Roy Barnes had lost because of a surge of "angry white men" punishing him for eradicating all but a vestige of the old confederate symbol from the state flag....

(clip)

...There were also big, puzzling swings in partisan loyalties in different parts of the state. In 58 counties, the vote was broadly in line with the primary election. In 27 counties in Republican-dominated north Georgia, however, Max Cleland unaccountably scored 14 percentage points higher than he had in the primaries. And in 74 counties in the Democrat south, Saxby Chambliss garnered a whopping 22 points more for the Republicans than the party as a whole had won less than three months earlier....

(more at link)

<http://www.freepress.net/news/print.php?id=1437>



Or here's part of a transcript of how CNN called it in November 6, 2002:

<http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0211/06/se.01.html>

...WOODRUFF: We have a surprising governor's race to call. And that is, here in the state of Georgia. This is a surprise because most people I know, and the experts we talked to thought that Roy Barnes, a Democrat, was going to hold on to this. But CNN is projecting that Sonny Perdue, the Republican challenger -- this means that all those visits by President Bush and all the effort that went into getting Saxby Chambliss elected to the Senate has spilled over and helped this little known outside of Georgia, Republican challenger to Roy Barnes. This is a surprise.

BROWN: I know the governor is surprised.

WOODRUFF: He certainly is.

BROWN: I know the governor is surprised. I think 24 hours ago, he felt pretty good about his chances. I don't know that -- someday we'll see the exit polling on this, but one of the issues, and it wasn't a main issue, but it was out there, was that Sonny Perdue wanted to hold a referendum on the flag. In the state of Georgia, there was, many of you will recall, controversy over the Confederate battle flag and how prominent a part it should play in the Georgia state flag. Governor changed that, made it a small part at the bottom part of the flag, and that's still an issue that's simmering, here. And in a close election, all issues matter a lot.

WOODRUFF: There were three Democrats elected governor in the South in 1998. It was Roy Barnes, here in Georgia. It was Don Siegelman in Alabama, who was considered to have a very tough race. And in...

GREENFIELD: Jim Hodges.

WOODRUFF: ... South Carolina, Jim Hodges. Jim Hodges, as we projected, has gone down to defeat. But this one, this was the one seat, governor seat, the Democrats were thought to hold on to.

I'm told that Roy Barnes spoke, just a short time ago to his -- Mr. Perdue. I'm sorry. Sonny Perdue spoke to his supporters, so let's listen to a little bit of what he had to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SONNY PERDUE (R-GA), GOVERNOR-ELECT: About five minutes ago, I had a call from the president of the United States, George W. Bush. He wanted me to congratulate you, the people of Georgia. About two minutes ago, I received a call from Governor Roy Barnes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WOODRUFF: We are sitting here with our mouths hanging open. I mean, we -- it was believed -- I mean, we bought the conventional wisdom and that was that Roy Barnes was sailing, not sailing, but that he was going to be reelected.

GREENFIELD: You know, any surprises left? This is the surprise. This is the one, I think, no one saw coming, even as late as yesterday.

BROWN: I don't think we're breaking any confidences here. At a point, last night, we were talking to the governor, and he certainly wasn't cocky about the fact that he was going to win, but he felt good. They thought he'd win by a couple, three points maybe. And it turns out, he was wrong. It's that simple.

It is one of a series of events that have happened over the last six hours that, when you bundle them all together, you say, this has been a very good night for Republicans. Not a slam dunk, clear the tables sort of night, but a very good night, and at the White House, they are, no doubt, smiling....

(more at link)

<http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0211/06/se.01.html>
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