WorldNetDaily uses Nazis as example of how to deport 12 mill. illegals

[Julius Civitatus]

Every single day the wingnuts seem more unhinged. Every single day their motives, methods and ultimate ideals keep coming up to the surface, every time more and more blatantly and obvious.

Today "World-NUT-Daily" used the Nazis as a good example of how a nation can get rid of their "undesirable" elements. They made the comparison in order to support the rounding up and deportation of 12 million illegal immigrants:

"Not only will it work, but one can easily estimate how long it would take. If it took the Germans less than four years to rid themselves of 6 million Jews, many of whom spoke German and were fully integrated into German society, it couldn't possibly take more than eight years to deport 12 million illegal aliens, many of whom don't speak English and are not integrated into American society"

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50198

They are getting so freakin' transparent, we don't even have to work that hard anymore to expose them, really.

[benburch]

1. "rid themselves"

And the tone is as though that was a GOOD thing!

[Julius Civitatus]

4. Exactly. Not even trying to hide it.

It's revolting.

I wonder if they also advocate using cattle train cars to do the job, and hose them down if they get thirsty. Or maybe to keep them in some "temporary" detention camps...

Hey, once you start down that slope...

[Tom Joad]

2. We have some World net daily fans here at du. Fortunately, they

for the most part have been tombstoned to oblivian.

[onehandle]

3. Dupe.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2627559

[Julius Civitatus]

5. The photo of the author is very telling

A little fan of Adolph, it seems...

[Bob3]

7. Any send him enlistment papers?

Just wondering.

[Bob3]

6. Oh my god - they really are completely unhinged aren't they

I mean the Nazi's? They're using the Nazi's as an example?

Utter madness. Granted this is a pretty fringe publication but STILL thats just insane - which means there are at least two completely insane people there, the one who wrote it and his editor.

[Julius Civitatus]

8. He sure looks of enlisting age

He can find lots of opportunities in Iraq right now.

[Clovis Sangrail]

9. isn't WorldNetDaily like the Weekly World News of the net?

It's scary that anybody would believe them... but browsing through the front page is like looking at the Weekly World News while waiting in the checkout line.

[Julius Civitatus]

10. It's a radical right-wing publication, favored by Freepers and other

Their credibility is close to zero, and they serve a a conduit to vicious columnists and self-referential pseudo-news.

[Clovis Sangrail]

11. yeah..

but it seems so out there that the number of people who actually believe it has got to be in line with the number of people that think the WWF is real.

...maybe it's the same people

[Jed Dilligan]

12. At least they are telling the truth!

Anyone who advocates rounding people up based on their appearance, their language, or their lack of "papers" IS a Nazi, even if they vote democratic.

[central scrutinizer]

13. "rid themselves of 6 million Jews"????

Rid - nice euphemism for mass murder and genocide.

[greiner3]

14. During my forays into freeper ville;

I keep running into similar posts. It seems that one of the freepers began calling US 'nazis'. I think the oxymoran enjoyable. Another hilarious theme is that they call 'our side', Dems and liberals to mention a few labels, are the worst kind of racists and bigots. Their reasoning, please forgive MY labeling of this freeper mental activity, seems to follow the thread that since we are trying to help the downtrodden we are enslaving them and forcing them to do our bidding. Damn, if I knew I had that kind of power several decades ago, I'd be a repub congressman making millions off of the feeding trough that they call the US government.

[heartofthesiskiyou]

15. NO NO....Ovens..Think Ovens

[Dudley_DUright]

16. Godwin's law is now officially inoperative

They really are Nazis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

[NI4NI]

17. The writing is clearly on the wall

with this demented BS. And for alot of us, we've seen it already for years. I honestly believe that they are sick and serious, especially more so after looking at wnd's list of "columnists". Yeah! You guessed it, Mann Coulter is one of them. The mere fact that a daily, right-wing radical read publication actually suggests that American policy should duplicate any part of the Nazi's "solution" is just more positive proof of the dementia we're dealing with and that they all need to be stepped on and crushed like diseased cockroaches every chance we get.

[Iowa]

18. I understand your sentiment...

...but disagree with the choice of words.

"I honestly believe that they are sick..."

"...is just more positive proof of the dementia we're dealing with..."

"...they all need to be stepped on and crushed like diseased cockroaches..."

Evil and hate are not the products of mental illness, dementia, or other human frailties. Many very good and decent people are mentally ill and suffer from dementia. There is no shame in either mental illness or dementia - we're all susceptible. Evil is choosing to behave in a destructive, immoral, and/or reprehensible manner. When faced with hatred and evil, it's best to attack it head on for what it is. Those who commit evil acts (or encourage evil) are usually responsible for, and should be held accountable for, their behavior. Mental illness and dementia seldom have anything to do with evil.

[NI4NI]

19. I hear what you're saying

and I understand. Of course no one is comparing good and decent people who have any such illness. I stand corrected if there are no evil persons with the same. Can it be that only good and decent people are affected?

[Iowa]

20. No... I don't think you hear what I'm saying...

... so I'll be a bit more direct. Here's your comment (with emphasis added):

"Of course no one is comparing good and decent people who have any such illness. I stand corrected if there are no evil persons with the same. Can it be that only good and decent people are affected?"

In your first post you linked evil behavior with mental illness and dementia. To do so stigmatizes people with mental illness and dementia. In your second post you seem to be saying that it's appropriate to link hatred/evil with mental illness if some hateful/evil individuals also just happen to have a mental illness. You're suggesting that it's acceptable to ascribe the actions of one (or a few) in a group - to the entire group. No... when it comes to mental illness, that is not acceptable.

So I'll say it as plainly as possible - mental illness is not linked in any way to the type of evil/hate referenced in the OP. There is nothing in the editorial linked by the OP to suggest that the twit who touted Nazi deportation is mentally ill. Nothing. Rather, he strikes me as a cold, calculating, hateful RW zealot. Attributing sinister behavior to mental illness propagates long debunked old wives tales about mental illness, and it stigmatizes those who are afflicted. Such erroneous and outdated stigmas result in people delaying treatment (which can result in injury and death), unnecessary shame, and feelings of inferiority. It hurts people. Stigmas take a long time to die and it's long past time we put a stop to it. People from all walks of life get mental illness - you are susceptible and I am susceptible. Whether we become mentally ill or not has NOTHING to do with our character or our morality. Some people see a monster and think mental illness. Don't do that. It's a false characterization and it hurts people. Clearly that wasn't your intent.

When we can't understand why someone would be evil, we sometimes look for a reason - "they must be sick!!". No... chances are they just chose to be bad for their own self-centered reasons. The truth is, some mentally stable people just choose to be evil - period. Just leave it at that. Evil can exist all by itself - sickness is not a necessary ingredient.

I worked for many years as a professional in a psychiatric hospital and I wouldn't expect others to know what I do, and it's not my intent to back you into a corner or embarrass you. If I have, I apologize. I fully agree with the outrage you expressed toward the Nazi issue.

:toast:

[NI4NI]

21. Your point is well taken!