final hour on the Enzi Lose your health care bill with final vote on cspan

[caligirl]

I will post more shortly, they just started the final hour on this bill and it will be voted on. This is it.

[ralps]

1. It will be voted on at 6:10 Eastern time

[blondeatlast]

2. I'm at home but I'm not sure I can take it

without hurling something at the first A-Hole who votes yes.

Nevertheless, I'm going in.

Echoing ralps--we all need a :grouphug:!

Positive vibes to DC...

[Mass]

3. Cloture vote, as I understand it.

Hopefully, they will not have the 60 votes.

[ralps]

4. Lincoln & Nelson of Neb. for the Dems

[Mass]

6. Nelson is on the other side - He is a co-sponsor of the Enzi bill.

[blondeatlast]

7. Lots of huge insurance companies in Omaha, a surprisingly

wealthy little town.

[ralps]

9. Oh my bad, although he is a democrat

[blondeatlast]

5. The talking Toupee from Omaha now.

What an effing tool he is.

[blondeatlast]

8. Let's get this on the front page for the cube rats in the West. nt

[Nite Owl]

10. Ben Nelson is voting for

cloture.

[ralps]

11. Sen. Nelson will vote for Cloture

[blondeatlast]

12. "Certain special interest groups..." from the Talking Toupee--

you know--SICK PEOPLE.

[ralps]

13. Sen. Dodd up now

[ralps]

15. He's Terribly disappointed that some amendments couldn't have been

brought up.

[blondeatlast]

14. Rs voting no--Snow, Chaffe? missed the other one.

I'm gonna send them a thank you when this is over.

[ralps]

17. Snowe, Chaffee, & Jeffords voted no on the Tax cuts, the 2 Nelsons voted

yes.

[ralps]

19. + Voynovich also voted no

[blondeatlast]

16. Kerry nailed the bill in this speech from yesterday:

But the plan offered by the Republican leadership today will not really help any small businesses gain coverage for their employees. Rather, it’s a wholesale deregulation of the insurance markets that will put consumers at risk.

[ralps]

18. Kennedy up now

[blondeatlast]

20. Six minutes until the vote. I'm nearly a wreck. nt

[blondeatlast]

21. Dem speakers (-Nelson) are HOT about this.

I'm not sure passion plays well in the Senate chambers.

[blondeatlast]

22. Effing Enzi up now--BARF. nt

[blondeatlast]

23. Enzi--it's all about "helping" small business.

Kerry nailed it as I mention upthread.

[blondeatlast]

24. Oh, geez--"they go to church, baseball, together--they're like families"

referring to small business.

Give me an effing break.

[blondeatlast]

25. HERE IT COMES--I need a hug! nt

[ralps]

28. Here you go

:hug: :grouphug: :hug:

[caligirl]

31. Lots of hugs all around.......

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

[Nite Owl]

26. Voting now

[blondeatlast]

27. Are you able to hear? I can't. nt

[ralps]

29. The clerk will call out who voted what soon

[blondeatlast]

34. Thanks--I'm kinda new to the legislature being "live." nt

[Nite Owl]

I can't hear

the votes, they seem to be just calling their names.

[caligirl]

30. How are we suppose to see or know the votes?

[blondeatlast]

32. I can't hear the votes and there's no graphic of the votes. nt

[Nite Owl]

33. There are so few of them there

it seems.

[blondeatlast]

35. I noticed that--it's bothersome to me. nt

[Nite Owl]

37. Now they are saying names

Nelson defected and Snowe voted for cloture

[ralps]

36. Kennedy, No

[ralps]

38. Lieberman, Stabenow, No

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

98. He's running scared! Go, Ned!

[ralps]

39. Schumer, No

[Nite Owl]

40. Clinton, no

[blondeatlast]

41. All that time I spent with McCain's office--bastard voted AYE.

He's officially an asshole of the highest order.

:mad::mad::mad:

[caligirl]

42. Menendez No

[ralps]

43. Clinton, Menendez, No

[caligirl]

44. so far all dems are voting NO

[blondeatlast]

45. Except Nelson, who co-sponsored this sham.

Of course he's in the comfy pockets of Big I.

[caligirl]

48. sorry I got carried away.

[Nite Owl]

Reid is up there now

[ralps]

46. Carper, No

[Nite Owl]

53. Chafee no!

[caligirl]

47. Another No didn't catch the name

Son just left to play frisbee and do home work, completely unconcerned about this, he's the diabetic.


Hatch is such a scum.

[ralps]

49. Kerry, No

[caligirl]

50. Kerry No

[ralps]

51. Chaffee, No

[caligirl]

52. chaffee NO Yahooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!1

[caligirl]

54. Obama No Harkin NO

[ralps]

55. Obama, Harkin, No

[caligirl]

56. Did Sununu vote yes? Pryor No Bill Nelson No Leahy No

[blondeatlast]

61. Sununu--voted aye. nt

[ralps]

57. Pryor, Nelson of Florida, Leahy, No

[caligirl]

58. di fi No

[ralps]

59. Feinstein, No

[caligirl]

60. Sarbanes and Salazar NO

[ralps]

62. Sarbanes, Salazar, No

[caligirl]

63. McCulsky and Biden No

[ralps]

64. Muculsky, Biden, No

[blondeatlast]

65. Enzi--wanna give small business a health care break?

Universal single payer with an opt out option is the way to go, you moron.

[caligirl]

66. How is everyone doing now?

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

[blondeatlast]

67. Tens--but I'm thinking we're winning. Others?

It's hard to tell how it's going.

[Nite Owl]

68. Landrieu yes!

[blondeatlast]

70. No surprise there--we oughtta beat back the DINOS

who voted yes.

Even Lieberman voted no on this--but Landrieu? Of course not.

[caligirl]

71. Chaffee is a repub who voted no, so I think we are still okay.

[ralps]

69. Frell I have to leave!!! I hope Enzi's bill goess down to defeat!! I'll

check back later.

[blondeatlast]

72. We'll definitely keep you posted. Take care. nt

[caligirl]

73. 43 Neys and the bill is defeated.

[caligirl]

94. sent you a pm just after you left the final vote was announced.

[ralps]

99. I got it & thanks for letting me know, Woo Hoo We Won!!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Nite Owl]

74. Yeah!!!!

no cloture!!!!!!

[blondeatlast]

76. AMEN! And effing Enzi is invoking "family" again...

But he's lost and he knows it.

[caligirl]

77. The f'ing creedents should be packed up and shipped to Siberia

for putting Americans through this hell. They play politics while we feel screwed over.

[blondeatlast]

78. And Enzi ripping on the American Diabetes Association--

that was effing shameful of him.

What a tool.

[caligirl]

75. Akaka on the floor, and Enzi on the floor thanking people.

[blondeatlast]

79. Talking Toupee Strikes Back! Be ...

bored--be very, very bored...

[blondeatlast]

80. Durbin explaining why ADA, ACS, etc, were so strongly opposed to the bill.

And very nicely, too.

[OzarkDem]

81. ACS finally woke up

They've had a pathetic legislative agenda during the last several years. They need to do more than this, they need to work now on getting access to health care for cancer patients.

[blondeatlast]

83. ADA too--even when concerning stem-cell research.

I think in both cases it's the Big Pharma influence.

Interestingly, Big Pharma staunchly OPPOSED S. 1955 as it would have hurt a lot of their business.

[caligirl]

85. BD, the Bg testing supply co for one

[caligirl]

82. Just ripped into a certain senators staffer for putting us through this

[sidwill]

84. Hey Caligirl

Thanks for leading the charge on this board to raise awareness.

[caligirl]

87. Thanks for hanging in there, I thought I was becoming a pest at times

But I just told my son the good news, he was really relieved and asked me 3 times if we were in the clear now. I reassured him he's going to go on to the great college he was just accepted into and he will be alright. But I am pissed off at Enzi and others for putting us all through this fight to save our medical coverage.

[blondeatlast]

88. Indeed, CG--take a breath and then celebrate for a bit.

There'll be more fires to put out for us anytime now.

:hug::hug::hug:

[caligirl]

90. Yes indeed, I am suppose to write a declaration for the lawsuit

against our state and school district for diabetic oversight of children in school. ADA and DREDF are trying hard for us in California.

[blondeatlast]

93. That's a BIG issue--my thoughts and support are with you. nt

[OzarkDem]

86. They need to get to work now

and come up with a REAL plan to provide quality, affordable health care for all.

# Health care coverage must be guaranteed for everyone.
# The health care system must provide the same comprehensive benefits to everyone and must meet the public's expectations.
# The health care system must be redesigned so that treatment and coverage decisions are based on evidence and best practices.
# All individuals must financially contribute to the system, based on ability to pay.
# The new health care system must be easy to use for patients and providers, and easy to administer.
# Any system of coverage must include these core values:

* Access. Individuals must be able to get all the care they need when they need it. This must include meaningful access to evidence-based interventions.
* Information. Individuals must receive information that is evidence-based, objective, complete and correct.
* Choice. Individuals must have some choice of doctors and care.
* Respect. Our health care system must treat the whole person, not just a person's disease.
* Accountability. Standards regarding care must be clear, uniform, and enforceable. Patients must have a right to sue if their basic human right to health care is violated.
* Improvement. The health care system must have methods for measuring what is and is not working so that the quality of care can continuously be improved. Individuals must have access to well designed and efficiently run clinical trials, and must have coverage of all routine care costs associated with participation in such trials.

[blondeatlast]

89. How can I get the DNC to draft that into the platform? EXCELLENT.

It's clearly a winning issue. I noticed Durbin hinting at it in his closing remarks.

[OzarkDem]

91. He's heard it for the last 3 years

from the National Breast Cancer Coalition. Breast cancer advocates were the first to put together a good comprehensive health care agenda.

I tried to get the DNC to put it into their platform in 2004 and also tried to get Kerry to use it in his campaign, with somewhat limited success. Sometimes it takes a while for things to catch on.

NBCC Health Care Agenda
http://www.stopbreastcancer.com/bin/index.asp?strid=651&btnid=2&depid=3

Virginia Clinton Kelley Fund
http://www.stopbreastcancer.com/bin/index.asp?strid=781&depid=16

[caligirl]

95. Could this have put the fear of Bush in them for getting something done?

[OzarkDem]

97. They're still following the GOP lead

Dems have talked about health care reform for years, but they don't seem to get motivated until they see the GOP moving on it.

At least there is some momentum to get things done - its an election year. The trick for Dem leaders will be to use this momentum to their benefit and force the GOP to cooperate on quality health care reform. If the GOP doesn't play - so be it. let them go down to defeat and the Dems can get it done when they take back the majority in Congress next year.

[union_maid]

92. Yippeee

I haven't posted here on this, I don't think, but I have on my blog. I couldn't get to the TV in time to see the vote. I sure appreciate knowing there's someplace to go for the important news. I was sweating this out, too. It was such pure evil.

I think they'll try again. They know that healthcare is an issue, but the Repugs can't quite let go of the idea that they can get over by putting out something that purports to help while actually doing harm. It's been their SOP for so long now.

[caligirl]

96. They always want to make a buck, snake oil salesmen.