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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:36 PM
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ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE, NOW BABY!
http://www.afsc.org/iraq/movie.htm
Okay, so I'm just an old worn out hippie-looking disabled Vietnam Era Vet but I've been there done that and it's time to WAGE PEACE. Now!

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:41 PM
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1. Hear, hear!!
Bush's way is a moral and pragamtic failure. It is time for him and his lieutenants to get out of the way and let the people do things right.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:43 PM
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2. did the link load fast without cable
wasn't that video something? how long does it take with dial up?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:56 PM
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8. I don't have dial up
It loaded in a few seconds for me.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:43 PM
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17. same here jack
It must load really fast with dial-up... thanks for the reply and vote.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:44 PM
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3. I feel where you are coming from. And in return, may I say this to you:
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 07:45 PM by IsItJustMe
What the world needs now, is love, sweet love. It's the only thing, that there is much to little of.
:hi: :hi:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:51 PM
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6. is that a Saint John image I see by the name IsItJustMe?
Here's a peace sign in the literal sense:


Here's one for Saint John Lennon the athiest,
who sits close to God in the Great Beyond right now:
Two, one two three four
Ev'rybody's talking about
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m.

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

C'mon
Ev'rybody's talking about Ministers,
Sinisters, Banisters and canisters
Bishops and Fishops and Rabbis and Pop eyes,
And bye bye, bye byes.

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Let me tell you now
Ev'rybody's talking about
Revolution, evolution, masturbation,
flagellation, regulation, integrations,
meditations, United Nations,
Congratulations.

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Ev'rybody's talking about
John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary,
Tommy Smothers, Bobby Dylan, Tommy Cooper,
Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer,
Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna,
Hare, Hare Krishna

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:05 PM
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12. You're almost right. It's more like, well, It's more like St. John with a
little country twist. Let's see if I can explain it here:

St. Kris said:

Jesus was a capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoes

Long hair, beard and sandles
And a funky bunch of friends
Reckon we'd just nail him up
If he came down again

Chorus:
'cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty decent folks can frown on


If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me

Eggheads cussing rednecks cussing
Hippies for their hair
Others laugh at straights who laugh at
Freaks who laugh at squares

Some folks hate the whites
Who hate the blacks who hate the klan
Most of us hate anything that
We don't understand

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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:18 PM
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15. I believe Saint Kris was a Rhodes Scholar and Golden Gloves Champ
While he was better know for a song Janis sung, this is one of my favorite songs of all time:

See him wasted on the sidewalk in his jacket and his jeans,
Wearin’ yesterday’s misfortunes like a smile--
Once he had a future full of money, love, and dreams,
Which he spent like they was goin’ outa style--
And he keeps right on a’changin’ for the better or the worse,
Searchin’ for a shrine he’s never found--
Never knowin’ if believin’ is a blessin’ or a curse,
Or if the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down--

Chorus:
He’s a poet, he’s a picker--
He’s a prophet, he’s a pusher--
He’s a pilgrim and a preacher, and a problem when he’s stoned--
He’s a walkin’ contradiction, partly truth and partly fiction,
Takin’ ev’ry wrong direction on his lonely way back home.

He has tasted good and evil in your bedrooms and your bars,
And he’s traded in tomorrow for today--
Runnin’ from his devils, lord, and reachin’ for the stars,
And losin’ all he’s loved along the way--
But if this world keeps right on turnin’ for the better or the worse,
And all he ever gets is older and around--
>from the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse,
The goin’ up was worth the comin’ down--

Chorus:
He’s a poet, he’s a picker--
He’s a prophet, he’s a pusher--
He’s a pilgrim and a preacher, and a problem when he’s stoned--
He’s a walkin’ contradiction, partly truth and partly fiction,
Takin’ ev’ry wrong direction on his lonely way back home.
There’s a lotta wrong directions on that lonely way back home.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:06 PM
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34. Thanks for the memories
Now, we need to bring that his spirit back.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:43 PM
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44. We have spirit, I guess us old-timers will have to drag our worn bodies
back into the streets, like tired patriots we'll march, to show college kids how to run a good old fashioned protest. I bet Cindy is tired too.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:46 PM
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4. You can be very descriptive, there Ghost....
....but as usual...right on the money!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:01 PM
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10. where ya been tex?
I thought you might have gotten pissed about one of my opinionated threads.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:06 PM
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13. Oh hell no...
....just workin' so much that I can't do anything but sleep and watch TV. Wife got me a 51" High definition for Christmas, and I love falling asleep in front of it....but I am still around!!!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:02 PM
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20. well, it's good to see you again, we southern types gotta hang together
At the First Continental Congress every representative had a price on his head but no one could seem to agree on much. After one heated debate, Ben Franklin said, "We can either hang together or hang separately."
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:15 AM
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25. Especially us seemingly rare Southern Democrats!!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:48 PM
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45. I hope it's better in Texas than AL but judging from who they sent to DC
I doubt it.

Hey, you guys can't steal an Alabama symbol.
I still love to see the Crimson Tide roll!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:49 PM
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5. Hey! I am up with that!
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 07:53 PM by leftchick
I was 10 years old in 1968 but I can relate bigtime!

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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:08 PM
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14. she was eight, eighty or eighteen waiting for her guy to get home from Nam
but now she's fallng out there with her men to kill or die. Nice button leftchick
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:52 PM
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7. Peace for us all!
:applause:

:hippie:
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:59 PM
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9. Kick, blessed are the peacemakers!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:38 PM
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16. amen
The word Amen, used by Jews, Muslims and Christians alike, translates directly into the phrase “so be it” and is an expression of the confirmation needed to end the killing. Are you familiar with the plural name for the God of Abraham? Is that deity all male or does Trinity need a female aspect as in nature? Will we persist in recreating Divinity in a human image? If humankind continues to envision a deity that even tolerates the death and destruction of war or indiscriminate rape of natural resources of this world, then we must realize both man and woman remain chained in Hell. We must break the chains of The Devil, which represent ignorance and fear. For humanity to ascend beyond this level, it must take responsibility for foolish choices instead of attributing them to a deity. If we worship a divine being that accepts intolerance, prejudice and hatred of those who believe differently, then we create Hell on this world not Heaven. Whether we call it Nirvana, Heaven or a perfect mental state of Bliss matters little. Humankind demonstrates amazing diversity in cultural and religious beliefs. Is it not conceivable that Elohim manifests to each of us in His and Her own way? Perhaps the religious fundamentalists are correct and the deity they worship is the one true God. Even if they are wrong, at least their deity blesses flags of wrath in battle, thus relieving them of any responsibility for actions but JESUS CHRIST would not bless the hate and killing. We have other choices. Now is the time to take a higher road and realize that if religion serves humanity, it serves the same true God and Goddess. Only then can we unshackle humanity from ignorance and fear, which chains us to pathetically foolish paths.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:01 PM
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11. We have to have the right message for the audience we are trying to reach
I think choosing the perfect message for the 39% who still support this war is important. I don't think they care about dead Americans, dead Iraqis, Halliburton, etc.

I do think they care about being lied to and the cost of this war and the fact that it is deficit spending financed by China. They especially care about the cost because they are cheap bastards who don't want to have to pay taxes for anything. Over 270,000,000,000 so Iraqis can vote?

We have to be the media and use guerilla marketing techniques. Bush was in Cincinnati this past Monday and Intercommunity Justice and Peace had a presence and predicably "peacey" slogans about American dead, etc.

The 39% do not care. Isn't this the slogan they shouted at Sheehan?

I have created 2 Word docs for mailing label printing, uses the Avery 5162 or 8162 depending on laser or inkjet. You get 350 labels for less than $10 at Staples. Since Sunday I have planted 350 labels around downtown Cincinnati. They say THE WAR IS A LIE AND YOU KNOW IT and Iraq War, $200,000,000 a day, US Debt with China: Priceless.

You can download the labels file here:
http://bushcheated04.com/flyers/

I have another albeit very wordy flyer that illustrates our strongest argument against this war and that is that it has made us less safe. I tuck these into books at the library. This flyer uses quotes from military and CIA.

It's called IRAQ WAR: What is it good for?













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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:50 PM
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18. right on rosebud!
right on!

:)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:20 PM
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19. excellent post!
thanks rosebud
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:34 AM
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23. Make some antiwar labels, it's fun, informative and may make heads explode
Since there are 350 labels in a apack of Avery 5162 or 8162 it's actually very inexpensive and the adhesive means they often stick around for a long time.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:04 PM
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33. I love this part from your link
Rosebud57's link says, "It was early 2004 and the Bush reelection campaign was understandably shaken by the realization that they were not going to be running against the latte drinking, Volvo driving, gay civil unions, peace nik Howard Dean.

Instead they found themselves up against a man who had volunteered for the Viet Nam war, a comparison that put George W. Bush's National Guard service and decades of falling down, pissing on himself drunkenness in an unfavorable light."

How can I make labels?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:44 PM
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35. Download my word docs from the link below
and pick up a packof Avery 5162 (laser) or 8162 (inkjet) from an office supply

The download area for the labels and 8.5"x11" flyers is:
http://bushcheated04.com/flyers/

Take a digital camera with you to shoot your handiwork then put them on a web server or a free site like http://photobucket.com and share the inspiration on DU. If enough of us do it we will be the media.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:57 PM
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40. the poster is truly priceless thanks, I'll pick the labels up tomorrow
LOL. Priceless
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:51 AM
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50. wear surgical gloves, it is vandalism. I only do it in areas that are
already sporting graffiti. In my city there are a lot of sidewalk tabloid boxes that are no longer being filled with tabloids. I open the box and stick the sticker on the plastic holder that displays a current issue. You could also do the inside of restroom doors. I think the money box at self serve parking lots or on parking meters is a great idea.

Take pics when you do it and post them :)
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:42 AM
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21. I certainly hope the Iraqis will find peace...it's up to them, not us. n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:40 AM
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22. they won't ever find peace
with us there.
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:51 AM
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24. I love this thread!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:05 AM
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26. well, I'll kick it right back up there, just for you chelaque liberal
nice to meet you.
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admsitio Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:10 AM
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27. Good Feeling, i approve it, peace for all!
The soldiers march / on the bodies of the citizens / fighting against the stench / singing / freedom is beautiful!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:21 AM
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28. what a great FIRST post at DU
I'm honored you chose this thread. Welcome to DU abmistio.
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admsitio Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:20 PM
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41. Thanks
Thanks Patrick, i like this forum i hope know you better.Thanks again.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:56 PM
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49. Have you got a hero you think will replace His Royal Chimpness yet?
I'm running a three for the price of one hero sale this week.
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admsitio Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:30 AM
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51. Wowwww Amazing!!!
Good artwork... apocalyptic.... i hate that bush devil flying... i want to see a sword in her middle.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:44 PM
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29. Hi admsitio!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:55 PM
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30. hey newyawker99 I miss Time Square
Last time I was there, you guys had really spruced it up. When I stayed there as a very young man it was slipping down hill. What a blast that visit was; like China-town in the sping!

Be sure and show our new friend how to vote! LOL
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admsitio Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:20 PM
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42. Thanks
Thanks a lot.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:00 PM
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31. Its good to see these kinds of threads...WE HUMAN HAVE TO LEARN
HOW TO HANG OUT TOGETHER, before its too LATE....Fuck HATE...
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:49 PM
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36. okay I just talked to another Alabama neocon doomsayer predicting the end
I'm religious but apparently they're going to keep voting Republican because it will bring on Armageddon and a long period of peace on Earth, which follows. Hey! here's an idea... Let's just imagine we all blew each other to Hell and go ahead with long term peace.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:01 PM
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37. oops
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:02 PM by opihimoimoi
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:01 PM
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38. Humanity has reached a LEVEL 2 Status..Tech/Mech /Nuke world
But with LEVEL 1 LEADERSHIP...which is OLD FASHIONED and OUT MODED...leading to our present problems GLOBALLY

We have not yet learned to have REAL FUN and STABILITY....we are more worried about our selfish individual world...BLIND to the riches that awaits us should we demand and get PEACE...

For Peace is not CHEAP....we must THINK on how to achieve...that takes brain power for which we must practice

Imagine that...we gatta practice how to get PEACE...only because we are noobs and rookies when it comes obtaining the status...
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:20 PM
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39. hear hear to that opihimoimoi
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:46 PM
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47. Its gotten so Peace is a Bad Word...they call us Commies and worse...
The Pubs are so blind their window is 2 microns wide...canardly see through the crack...
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:46 PM
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48. we didin't care then and I don't care now
Look what they called Kerry and he's a silver star winning 10th degree patriot. Russ the freedom fighter taught me to say "I don't care" what they say. I know who I am.

This child wants to know where her daddy is. Has anyone seen her father?

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:01 PM
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32. Major Mobilization for PEACE in NYC April 29th
See my sigline for details!!!!

And thank you, Jeffersons Ghost, for your service to our coutnry :patriot:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:22 PM
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43. please offer ALL details about ALL peace marches and rallies on this threa
can I copy your graphic to use in later posts, megan?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:19 PM
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46. Absolutely
I borrowed it from the united for peace website, and they encourage spreading it around. There are several graphics to choose from at this link:

http://www.april29.org/article.php?id=3200

Peace!!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:16 PM
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52. thanks megan
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:25 PM
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53. right on !!!
with you all the way on this theme ...

imagine seeing prominent Democrats organizing and speaking at peace rallies ... now that's a Party I could get behind with no hesitation ...
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