Rumor that VP Cheney will resign and an appointed McCain will come in

[EVDebs]

Pat Thurston Show (Santa Rosa, CA, on KSRO Radio 1350) put out the rumor that DeadEye will resign and then Sen John McCain will be appointed VP in order to shore up the sinking Republican ship.

McCain is in for the 'long haul' in Iraq, in case you aren't aware already

""When asked this week on CNN how long the U.S. military is likely to remain in Iraq, Senator John McCain replied "probably" 10 or 20 years. "That's not so bad," he said...""

originally provided by The New York Times
September 4, 2004
Heads in the Sand
By BOB HERBERT

Published: September 3, 2004

[still_one]

1. this is why mccain was kissing up to bush

I certainly hope the democrats hit mccain hard on his position on iraq if that comes

in addition, I would hope they bring up that he refused to support a public holiday for Martin Luther King, his involvement in the S&L scandal, his views against abortion, and most every other progressive issue

[radio4progressives]

4. dream on...

:rofl:

[still_one]

5. i know

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Something has to explain all the fellatio

[radio4progressives]

3. EVDebs you must be in my neighborhood.

I didn't tune in to Pat's program today, did she just mention it? and did she indicate where the rumor is flying in from?

[EVDebs]

15. Yes, and she did mention the rumor but didn't say where it emanates

but her Army Signal Corps background plus Secret Service background would lead me to believe that it is credible. The "R"s must really be terrified of losing the House come November...and all that it entails. Today's show was mostly on Hurricane Katrina response fiasco. It turns out that FEMA had outsourced it's disaster planning to a private company (IEM I believe) for South Louisiana and New Orleans and in addition the rescue of the Superdome stranded was slowed because FEMA was contracting for out of state buses (from as far away as Ohio, KY, and WI) with those negotiations centering on price of gas reimbursments etc etc...all while "Rome was burning". To make matters worse, Newsweek magazine ran pictures showing the school buses used to get people out stopped on a highway and those stranded being led off THOSE buses into the newly chartered 'rescue' buses...going wherever.

Pat didn't get into this. I hope someone eventually does. I have an archived link here at DU on this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4682347

[Faygo Kid]

6. No chance McCain. Could be Jeb. Maybe Condi. Allen?

Not McCain. Too old, too undependable. I don't support McCain, but neither does the controlling BushBots. This admin needs someone reliable, to continue the control and cover up the evil. We are speculating about an election that I do not believe - as an old guy - will happen. I only read of greatness. I do not see it.

[central scrutinizer]

7. ooh - that's bad

considering how many here at DU have drunk the John "I hate gooks" McCain Kool-Aid and believe that he and Colin Powell, have some scruples, morals, and dignity. If that many here can't see this through this opportunistic prick, I know that many of the lesser informed voters will slobber over hiim.

[Tin Man]

8. I'd say the odds are pretty good that McCain will be promoted

Cheney's dead weight, and besides, Georgie is looking for someone to carry the banner of 'his Iraq legacy' into the future - McCain fits that bill.

[Warpy]

9. The religious nutballs won't accept McCain

Oh, he's reliably antiabortion and all that, but he's enough of a maverick that they won't be able to push him around and they fear his influence on Stupid. At least they know Corrupt's motives begin and end with greed, giving them a clear playing field with Stupid.

Besides, the slot will be for whoever they want to position for 2008. My guess is that if Cheney does quit (a long shot, given his ego), then it'll be Allen.

Din't write Jebbie off, though. You know he's the heir apparent to the family Imperial Crown.

[BlueManDude]

10. McCain would be nuts to do this

why tarnish himself with the stain of thios Admin for 2 years? If he doesn't blow a gasket the presidency is his anyway.

[TomInTib]

11. That's my take on it, as well.

[whosinpower]

12. Cheney resigning eh?

wonder if Fitzgerald's investigation has anything to do with it........

[Tiggeroshii]

13. It'll give the Dems a little edge in the midterms

As I understand it, Arizona has a Democratic governor. That means his replacement will be a Democrat, giving the Dems a little bit more of a better start come november.

46-54....

[Dulcinea]

14. Not gonna happen.

Deadeye Dick is the real president. He'll never give up all that unfettered power.

Arizona has a Dem governor who will appoint a Dem to McCain's seat.

The fundies hate McCain & will stay home in droves in 2008 if he gets the nomination.

Boy George would probably pick his girlfriend Condi to be VP in the highly unlikely event of a Cheney resignation. She is completely loyal to him, & that's all he cares about.

[hippiechick]

16. If you think the fundies will stay home for a McCain candidacy ...

... what are the KKK bubba's going to do with a Condi Candidacy ?
A BLACK ... WOMAN ?? Chripes, they'll all get on their ATV's and storm Washington.

McCain's the one. Think Spiro Agnew: Resigned. Ford appointed VP by Nixon. Then Nixon resigned. And all of the above were pardoned when the appointed VP ascended to the office of President.

Game over.

[WCGreen]

17. It would doom his chances of running for pres....

He would be associated with a failed administration....

He would be a fool to take it...

While the rest of the candidates are running around touting a different message, McCain would be saddled with the Bush agenda....

[SteppingRazor]

18. .... which makes it even more likely that Bush would nominate him...

That way, he gets bogged down with Bush's slime while the Bush faction of the GOP gets their appointed successor through. Who that may be, I'm not sure, but I don't think the Bush faction wants a McCain presidency.

[WCGreen]

19. Yea good for the Bushies...

But bad for McCain...

[EVDebs]

23. Rove agrees... eom

[OzarkDem]

22. News media will spin it for him

They'll make it all go away with McCain in the WH - turning over a new leaf, Mission Accomplished, etc.

They've reinvented people before, they'll do it again.

Maybe this is why our Dem leaders in congress are being so tame. Maybe they think McCain will be nice to them.

[Wordie]

20. Some interesting comments re: McCain on HuffPo. PNACers like him (Kristol)

This is from Bill Scher:

McCain: Most Dangerous Man in America
12.05.2005

...During one of the 2000 debates between Bush and McCain, McCain laid out his foreign policy vision:

"I would ... revise our policies concerning these rogue states: Iraq, Libya, North Korea - those countries that continue to try to acquire weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them. ... I'd institute a policy that I call 'rogue state rollback.' I would arm, train, equip, both from without and from within, forces that would eventually overthrow the governments and install free and democratically elected governments. As long as Saddam Hussein is in power, I am convinced that he will pose a threat to our security."

He also described his foreign policy philosophy during that debate, and afterwards, as being "Wilsonian," as in Woodrow Wilson. That's how neoconservatives characterize themselves to give their unilateralist views a phony democratic, idealistic veneer. (Fareed Zakaria once dubbed them "Armed" Wilsonians.)

Furthermore, Bill Kristol -- who heads the neocon think tank Project For The New American Century and runs the neocon mag The Weekly Standard -- supported McCain in 2000 specifically because of his foreign policy views. As Kristol said in 2003:

"I was not a big Bush supporter in the primaries ... I knew George W. Bush, now President Bush, at that time, and hadn’t really been that impressed by him. I preferred McCain in the primaries, mostly because of foreign policy, because McCain articulated something much closer to what has now become the Bush Doctrine, in terms of a muscular internationalist American foreign policy that addressed both American interests and American principles."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-scher/mccain-most-dangerous-ma_b_11715.html

Bill Scher is the executive editor of LiberalOasis.com and a weekly contributor to Air America Radio's evening program "The Majority Report." His first book "Wait! Don't Move To Canada!" will be published by Rodale in 2006.

[mmonk]

31. Heh,heh

"forces that would eventually overthrow the governments and install free and democratically elected governments."

Now that's democracy. Install?

[OzarkDem]

21. I predicted this months ago

GOP has been planning to use McCain as their own "reform" candidate, trumping Dem leaders in DC who can't bring themselves to make a squawk over Bush's corruption.

[EVDebs]

24. With Republicans, everything is window dressing and a charade

The truth will out, but the media shades the truth to suit MSM's benefactors (TalonNews, PsyOps, catapulting the propaganda, Op Mockingbird etc). They know who butters their bread.

[FreedomAngel82]

25. It's so old

[jackbourassa]

26. No way McCain would be named VP

The Republicans would lose a Senate seat. Arizona has a Democratic governor.

[Orangepeel]

27. I don't believe it. But if it's true, it will be after Nov. '06 and ONLY

if republicans keep a big majority in the Senate.

[EVDebs]

28. A related post shows huffingtonpost as a source of the story

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2490853

""But when I saw John McCain embrace George Bush 2004, not just support him, but passionately embrace him, I wondered how he could do it.

When I saw a conservative magazine bring more attention to the rumors of a potential Dick Cheney departure, I wondered some more.

And if Dick Cheney leaves, and John McCain becomes Vice President, wonder no more.""

BTW, get a load of this picture at
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x565951

LOL !

[EVDebs]

29. Related thread 'The Useless McCain'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x571666

[NVMojo]

30. the whipped pup sucks the big one to become VP, what a joke!!