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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:43 AM
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Whopper: Howard Dean: Roy Neel, the lobbyist who never … lobbied?
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 03:54 AM by Feanorcurufinwe
Q: You brought in somebody from Washington D.C. who was in the Clinton White House, promised he wouldn't go to work as a lobbyist, then immediately went to work as a lobbyist. He is a quintessential Washington insider, admired by a lot of people in the party. But doesn't that change the whole DNA of the Howard Dean campaign?

A: …We did bring in Roy Neel, and I think he is going to do a great job, former President Clinton's deputy chief of staff, Al Gore's chief of staff.

Q: Now a telecommunications lobbyist.

A: Who never lobbied
(italics Chatterbox's) and kept faith with his ethics pledge, I might add.

—Howard Dean, being questioned about his new campaign manager, Roy Neel, at the Jan. 29 debate in Greensboro, S.C.

Neel left the Clinton administration, where he served as a senior staff member, and in 1994 became president and chief executive officer of the United States Telecom Association, a position he left in March 2001.

—Jonathan Finer and Brian Faler, "On the Stump, Remarks Don't Always Match Up With Facts," in the Jan. 30 Washington Post.

… USTA's most important job: promoting the industry's interests before Congress, regulatory agencies and other policy makers.

—"Company profile" page of the United States Telecom Association's Web site.

Roy Neel

—First entry under "Name of each individual who acted as a lobbyist in this issue area" on Page 3 of the United Stated Telecom Assocation's year-end registration for 2000. The issue in question was "Internet/DATA Services Regulatory Relief."

Roy Neel

—Same as above, on Page 2 of the year-end report for 1999.

Roy Neel

—Same as above (except this time the issue was "FCC Re-authorization") on Page 5 of the year-end report for 1998.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2094729/

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:49 AM
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1. FACTS can be quite inconvenient at times. eom
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:50 AM
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:55 AM
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3. So did he actually lobby?
?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:56 AM
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4. Yeah, all of that and yet nothing to refute Dean's statement.
:shrug:
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:35 AM
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5. Hmm, did you actually read the article?
Roy Neel

—First entry under "Name of each individual who acted as a lobbyist in this issue area" on Page 3 of the United Stated Telecom Assocation's year-end registration for 2000. The issue in question was "Internet/DATA Services Regulatory Relief."

Looks like Neel was a lobbyist to me, at least according to the USTA, his employer at the time.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:47 AM
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10. Media certainly ignored Dean protestations
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:44 AM
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8. His job description defines what lobbying is. Dean needs more W experience
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 06:11 PM
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11. Nah. Dean could give W a run for his money in the misrepresentation dept.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:39 AM
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6. does it really matter who Dean's campaign manager is?
People are voting for Dean, not his campaign guy. I doubt very seriously whether or not this guy is a lobbyist is going to affect vote totals in primary states.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:42 AM
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7. Not to me it don't. Seems kind of meaningless to be honest with you n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:23 PM
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9. True. But, it depends on what you're telling your audiences.
If your rheyoric doesn't match your own record and that of your closest advisors, then it gets fishy.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 06:19 PM
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12. Pot meet kettle.
How can Kerry use his "don't let the door hit you" line with a straight face?
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