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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 03:49 PM Original message |
Nader Voters Were Right In 2000 And Dems (Still) Need To Face Facts |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. What does Nader care? He got a nice Bush tax cut. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Democratic leaders could raise the level of discussion "even on DU" |
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Adenoid_Hynkel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 12:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
94. Ralph was right-as were chomsky, moore, hightower, sarandon, robbins, ivin |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
156. So did every member of Congress. n/t |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. How many Nader voters still think theres no difference between Bush & Gore |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Please read the OP |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Too bad Nader took away our chance to find out for ourselves |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Go talk to all the NON-VOTERS you know-- then come back |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Nader won't be the answer in '06 or '08, that's for darn sure. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. I think it was the soccer moms and NASCAR dads, |
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yellowdoginGA (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. exactly |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. The NON-voters think "there's no dfference between __ & ___" |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. There were just as many non voters in 2004 as there were in 1972 |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
106. Well |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
139. Do you know any of those people or talk to them? |
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BigYawn (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #106 |
141. I live in an affluent county and even here voting seldom exceeds 55% |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
183. Ummm...one word .....Lieberman |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. Right maybe but also weak |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Maybe "Had A Right" would have worked better to say that |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. Indeed, is the Opposition Party's message about democratic principles |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Thank you for reminding me to credit Swamp Rat |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. As a Disaffected Former Republican, I surely am twisting in the political |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
163. I love that photo of Bush, no Bozo the Clown, no...wait...I'm confused. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #163 |
173. Drink? I thought it was a Psychedelic Lemur |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. But what did their little stand against Gore get us and them? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Democrats need to face those issues-- then and now |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
77. Plus Nader. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 12:02 AM Response to Reply #77 |
91. Why are the Nader Haters so bent on missing the point of the OP? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #91 |
107. Most of us agree with Ralph Nader's principles.... |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. Yeah, well, but for Nader's ego, none of this would be happening now |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Well, that makes two of us that agree, anyway. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Bullshit. Gore Coulda/Shoulda/Woulda carried those states on his own |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
136. You are correct, Gore should've won those states on his own |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. only if you assume that Nader voters would have voted for Gore |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. According to polling they would have |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. I don't buy the retroactive soothsaying this ugly argument is based on |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #142 |
166. Look, people were polled and asked "who would you have voted for" |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Know anyone who's ever been polled? |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
158. You're both wrong... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Agreed. Who is addressing election fraud? |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Defining a Political Self |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Join all who care RE: corporate corruption, election fraud, abuse of power |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. Blah Blah Fuckin Blah .... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Deleted message |
omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. good example of why they misunderestimate the audience |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Bush was "mis-underestimated" and GORE voters told you so. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. My anxiety would be assuaged if AL GORE runs in 2008 |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Yes a progressive/Democratic coalition is important |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. oh, I agree the issues Nader raised are important; |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. You can help. |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
24. Nice long post with some good points, however |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Nader voters were RIGHT ABOUT THE ISSUES & smug Mon. Morning Quarterbacks |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. It's hard to decide whether Nader apologists are more smug |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Who's apologizing? |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Well, I was pretty sure that the references to smug and oblivious |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
185. Not a delusional liberal...but a conservative Democrat |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
27. Nader Voters Were WRONG In 2000 And his supporters Need To Face Facts |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Please read the OP and thread-- don't just get yer buttons pushed |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I did. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. if so, you didn't understand |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
117. Boil it down for those of us who "don't understand." I don't generally |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
32. bullcrap |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Nader is not the reason the Democrats didn't have a wider margin |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. that's a copout |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Shoulda Coulda Woulda Why don't you blame non-voters? |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You can rationalize anyway you want |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. The Nader Voter Bashers are doing the rationalizing |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. your ideological purity test put Bush in there |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. That's not me-- you must be thinking of someone else |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. here's my ideological purity test. are you sitting down? |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. and Gore did this how? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. he didn't. the irony is |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Gore's campaign theme |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
85. NYT Published Article that Gore Won the 2000 Elections. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
36. Excellent Post! Thanks for Including Excerpts of Gore's speach |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Let's hope his speech helps other find their footing to start standing up |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
87. Hear! Hear! |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. you do realize |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Tsschaa, you know wut? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I got yer ideological purity test |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 11:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
109. It seems that their arguments fly in the face.... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
48. Nader voters: this post will be a tough ride for you |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. not really. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Here here! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. You can't be serious |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
50. You've convinced me! I'm voting for FDR in 2008. |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
51. Everyone has a right to their opinion express it often while you can. |
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ms liberty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
53. Al Gore was the first to talk of public financing of campaigns... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
54. GORE voters were right in 2000! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Quite viciously, too |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. I read the OP, as much as I could stomach. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Deleted message |
mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I have read this again to be sure I wasn't missing something, and I'm not. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 12:28 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. You misunderstand & and are arguing with someone else, not me |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #93 |
112. That's a cop out "homey." |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
160. There was a perfect storm of events to keep 2000 a close race. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. "when in the course of human events" |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. Bush Voters Were Right In 2000 And Dems (Still) Need To Face Facts. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
61. What exactly does Nader do between election cycles? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I've heard he eats babies. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I've heard he doesn't care much what happens to them. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. allow me to refer you |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Well that leaves Nader out of the picture. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. another reference. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Hmmm, here's a reference or two for you: |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. nader caused 9/11? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Nader publicly supported George Bush who uhm - "caused" 911. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. nader causes acne, too. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I guess if you count scars from shrapnel he does? |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. He's well into his 70's, single and enjoys being a spoiler. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Indeed, he has said he enjoys stirring things up. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Sometimes it doesn't matter, but it certainly did in '00. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. He waits for the benefit of hindsite so he can "critique" Democrats |
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Adenoid_Hynkel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 12:37 AM Response to Reply #61 |
95. bullshit-he's around. the media just won't cover him...or any progressive |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
121. Does any one actually believe that Nader is going to run again? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #121 |
130. I think Nader should work on the IRV issue as he is the one who |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
89. Who ever wants to vote for Nader |
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NativeTexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-21-06 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
90. Nader went GREEN in 2000.... |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
92. If your point is that unless Democrats speak out strongly and forcefully |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
96. He lost the election for Dems in 2000. Then he did it again. He was |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:50 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Nader isn't really the concern at issue. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
98. Not this shit again! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 05:05 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. You are right. He did basically go around lying about there being no |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:17 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. That comment in particular still resonates. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 07:17 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. NDP party in Canada has drunk the same Kool-aid. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #99 |
114. "Seems embittering the left wing is an old neocon trick. " |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #114 |
122. Who's bitter here? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. Perhaps you can clarify your "point" as it's being "misunderstood" on a |
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ticktockman (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 04:10 AM Response to Reply #128 |
182. Nader's remarkable inability to distinquish differences |
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ticktockman (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 04:03 AM Response to Reply #122 |
181. Greens Likewise (Still) Need To Face Facts |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #181 |
184. "What response do you expect?" |
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ticktockman (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 01:32 AM Response to Reply #184 |
189. Nader Voters Likewise Need To Face Facts |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 01:56 AM Response to Reply #189 |
191. There is a lot of good information here |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
113. Bravo! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #98 |
115. You're right it is "NOT this shit again" |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
100. Nader says Gore is better out of office |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
116. Aren't we all? Nader is "better" out of office too. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #116 |
145. it also shows that he still doesn't get it |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 12:27 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. I agree with every word. |
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ticktockman (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
101. An Open Letter to Ralph Nader |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #101 |
119. Right on! |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:05 AM Response to Original message |
102. ya know part of me feels like anyone who didnt vote for kerry or Gore |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #102 |
111. Very well put. Thank you. |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
104. Nader voters helped Bush take over. That's the fact, Jack. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. You got it. "Vote Nader - elect a Neocon" |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
110. Nader voters - manipulated by a RW tool. No difference my ass! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. Exactly! |
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Lone_Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
120. Bush is a fuck up... he should have been handidly defeated in 2000... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. ...which is why, in 2000, some voters chose issues over strategy |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #120 |
152. Bush WAS DEFEATED. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Stolen elections+media denial+public denial+BBV+Bush SCOTUS+ |
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Lone_Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #152 |
187. Notice that I said handidly defeat.... |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
124. Nader voters were right WING, WRONG, and THEY need to face facts. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #124 |
135. LOL! |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #135 |
147. I'd love it if Nader ran smartly. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 02:22 AM Response to Reply #147 |
149. There Will Be More New Party's Running in Presidential Elections |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 02:32 AM Response to Reply #149 |
150. Cloneproof Schwartz Sequential Dropping (CSSD) Method |
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DarienComp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
125. I still like pie. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. mmmmmmmm ... floor pie |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
127. Mixed Feelings; Nader is Right, but Voting Non-Democratic...? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. There WAS a point! |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 04:33 AM Response to Reply #127 |
151. "Ralph Nader was the single best candidate both years" |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Please don't miss the rest of HS's excellent post due to that one |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #154 |
170. I get the point |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #170 |
176. I'm gonna wade in here |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 12:37 AM Response to Reply #170 |
178. I Only Vote for Democrats |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
129. Do Repugs want u to hate Nader/voters to demonize the issues he raised? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Nader was right, serious folk voted for Gore, & Bush stole the election |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
133. God DAMN you, Charles Jay!! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Probably because he wasn't a continual guest of the corporate controlled |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
137. Do a search on Nader and CSE or Nader and Oregon Family Council. |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
143. HAHAHA |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 11:53 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. Even more ironic: the Nader Haters can't figger out what the OP is about |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
148. Screw Ralph Nader! He gave us Bush on a silver platter... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #148 |
155. Good post. Too bad it has nothing to do with this particular OP |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 05:09 PM Response to Reply #155 |
161. It all boils down to Nader cost Gore the election. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Keeps you stuck in the past ignoring everything that's been said here |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
157. Blaming Nader for Bush = Monday morning QBing. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 05:48 PM Response to Reply #157 |
167. I think most Nader voters knew how much of a fuck up * would be |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #167 |
172. Who knew how many dopes would vote for him? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
165. Nader was right. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #165 |
171. "general apathy of the American people is really why we are where we are" |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #171 |
177. It really does boil down to corporations. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #177 |
179. Well then |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
169. I'll only vote for candidates that have a REAL chance of winning |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
174. Nader had no chance in hell of being elected |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
175. If they knew what was at stake |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
180. Nader should have fought Bush & backed the DEMs in 2004. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 01:45 AM Response to Reply #180 |
190. That is EXACTLY the point. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
186. I blame Nader for where we are now, he knew he had no chance |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
188. Just One Last Quick Point; Don't Get Distracted From the Real Criminals |
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ticktockman (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 04:02 AM Response to Reply #188 |
192. Not Getting Distracted From the Real Criminals |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 04:26 AM Response to Original message |
193. Locking |
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