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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:21 PM
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Clark, Dean and Kucinich supporters, a proposal
All three of the candidates have been getting a raw deal in the media.
I think that we should band together to complain and protest media smears. We could take one issue a week for each candidate, send emails for the other candidates, and letters for our own. This would be a good practice for the big showdown with Bush.

I have already started, in support of Clark. Here is the letter I am sending via email and snail mail to various persons at CNN and MSNBC:

I am growing increasingly alarmed with the direction the coverage your news organization is taking with the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. Specifically in the over all way that it chooses to cover or ignore candidates. Reporting on candidate favorites are given enormous positive coverage, while the others are ignored or deliberately marginalized. When I say deliberately marginalized, I mean exactly that.

For example, Wesley Clark in his first political primary, New Hampshire, was cast as losing for receiving third, while John Edwards was cast as being a winner for fourth. Clark did spend time there without much competition, but less overall time than John Edwards, who's campaign had very positive effects from the second place results of Iowa. Also Edwards, a professional politician, has been in the race for more than a year longer than Clark with national coverage. Finally, the first and second place recipients are from neighboring states and did not have the limit of spending caps. The logic of Third place is a loss, while Fourth place is a win, is very hard to understand by any other rational than bias, either unintentional or deliberate.

The coverage of the next primary date has been so focused on the one state that Kerry and Edwards are currently the top contenders, that all the other states have been virtually ignored. When any attention is paid to them at all, it is in the context of Kerry and Dean. Again Clark is marginalized by ignoring states where he has very recently and currently been polling in the number one and two slots. This continued pattern supports the growing belief that the media is overstepping its role as reporting the news and is creating and influencing it instead.

Obviously I am a Clark supporter, that does not mean that I have been oblivious to the mishandling of coverage given to other candidates. Dennis Kucinich has been virtually neutralized before any votes were cast, and Howard Dean's fall from front runner was unfairly helped by misrepresentation, especially the so called "I have a scream" speech, which was reported out of context. These are only examples.

These biases in reporting, added to a lack of in-depth coverage of real issues in favor of topics such as botox, is truly unworthy of your organization and the talented people who work for it. I urge you to take a look at the way your organization is handling the Democratic primary and bring the neutrality and professionalism that we, your viewers, have a right to expect. I look forward to seeing a return to the quality of reporting and newscasting that I know you strive for.

Sincerely
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:29 PM
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1. please
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 08:29 PM by goodhue
Dean and Clark have had plenty of media attention, most of it positive until they failed to win. Kucinich's media mistreatment is in a whole different league. Plus I prefer Kerry to Dean and Clark who are way more moderate than the liberal Kerry. I ain't buying.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:34 PM
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4. Clark got positive mainstream press? On what planet? n/t
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:52 PM
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13. Sept 29, 2003 Newsweek: Who Is This GI?
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:35 PM
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5. As I said it's a proposal, but Clark has been ignored, Dean has been
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 08:42 PM by Turkw
unfairly treated, and Kucinich has been deliberately marginalized. I agree that Kucinich has been treated the worst, but I have posted in support of him here and on his own website.

On edit, please notice that I do address Kucinich's treatment, in a letter that started origionaly just for my candidate. As I wrote it I thought about this proposal. I first had it the other night, being inspired by a post by Slitherwink. I posted a reply as I thought about this idea.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:55 PM
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7. So when people say Clark supporters are rude I will use this
as a debunk post.
Thanks for the help.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:39 PM
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11. I can't help but think
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 10:40 PM by snoochie
of all the times I was told by Clark and Dean supporters that Kucinich's mistreatment by the media was our imagination. Now that the first couple of primaries didn't go exactly as planned, we're supposed to be brothers in arms.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:00 PM
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14. yep, "hes not earning it"
I remember that sadly.
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:08 PM
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15. interestiing
I seem to remember the same thing. IMO putting the media treatment of Kucinich with that of Dean and Clark is a false comparison. Dean and Clark may have gotten some negative press... but they got some press and had their fair share of positive stories as well.
Scott
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:10 PM
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16. It really was tough wasnt it
I remember as I still do feeling blessed, yes to find Dennis even mentioned. Dean may be getting ridicule by the press now but they arent ignoring him, 2 Newsweeks and 2 times. Not sure about Clark, but Kerry has gotten a Newsweek I know now, not a Time though, the Time cover this month is about something esle.
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:00 AM
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18. So what did you do about it, and what are you doing about it? I'm sick of
Clark's treatment, don't like Dean's and Kucinich's treatment and am writing, trying to get others to do the same. That is what this thread is about. Read what I've said about Kucinich's treatment in the press in the past. I've always agreed that it was bad.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:12 AM
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21. Sorry
You all havent said get over it. I just really think you guys have got it a lot better than you think. I will, and I agree with your request, what I did? I called that sob Tweety Matthews because he was trying to say Dean and Dean only opposed the war.
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:19 AM
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22. Good for you, I applaud your effort, and am adding to it, this is part of
what the right did to subdue the media, as we get more vocal, then all Democratic candidates get a better chance of neutral coverage.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:20 AM
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23. Thanks
I remember how tough it really was to find DK being so much as mentioned. The media is Bush's lifeline IMO.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:30 PM
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2. An amazing coincidence
that what the three have in common are campaigns unsanctioned by the PTB, though Clark and Dean seem to be backtracking on that.

I have regularly complained about Kucinich coverage, but since that 'scream' bullshit, I've taken to mentioning that also in letters that I write. Some fawking 'scream'--it couldn't even be heard over the loud ambient noise.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:33 PM
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3. Nice idea - I was thinking - neutral letters - from voters asking
for fair coverage...But common ground cannot be found, so, let's do it the old fashioned way. :-(
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:46 PM
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6. I would also suggest that we ban together
not only against the media but the power brokers in the DLC/DNC I'm damn tired of dirty tricks being used by Dem against Dem no matter who is doing it. If we want a chance of expressing the diverse ideas and changing America for real we need a fair exchange of ideas and NO backstabbing, cheap shots or other BS from the candidates we support. I might suggest that someone who knows this blog well and has been around here try to get a new category of discussion to galvanize those who wish to ban together to try to force a change.
Thanks for listening to my rant. It's half the size it started out but I removed the profanity.
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:20 PM
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9. I like your proposal, who do we ask? I don't hate the DLC/DNC but I do
wish to see it changed for the better. I think this is a worthy goal.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:10 PM
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8. I'll be happy to go along with this proposal
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:31 PM
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10. Shall we start next week? I've got a list of media contact addresses
We can add as we go.

Just got finished sending letter to MSNBC, CNN next. I sent a telegram to Jim Walton of CNN and Neil Shapiro of MSNBC, it was a cut down version of the letter I posted here. I will send them the full version as a snail mail letter.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:42 PM
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12. you have a good idea, but....
...you must understand that a system can only produce what it is composed of. A duck can never produce an eagle egg. So is it realistic to expect the corporate media to produce accurate coverage of candidates that are not part and parcel of their system? No. Look what they are doing to Dean! My goodness, I am not a Dean supporter per say: I like Clark & Edwards .... but what is happening is terrible. The news media can produce any false image, show a tiny film clip out of context, and hypnotize a huge % of the public. It happens all the time! Please also consider using theater to disrupt the "normal" media coverage. Be creative, and do the unexpected. I do support your idea on mass mailings, but prefer to do it with the threat of a potential boycott. Speak the language that they understand!
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:11 PM
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17. Good idea! Glad to see someone is doing this.... We need to do more.
n/t
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DannyRed Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:10 AM
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19. Read this.
The media will not respond.

http://www.blackcommentator.com/75/75_cover_dean_media.html

The only answer is the oldest answer...I think it was HL Mencken's line...

The only way to ensure a free press is to own one.

Get it through your head: the media is NOT interested in HEARING your opinion, they are interested in CREATING your opinion.

The media will soft-shoe Kerry or Edwards, ignore or smear Kucinich, Clark, Dean, Sharpton...

And then, AFTER the primary battle is decided, they will retrain their big guns on the winner...

I support Dean.

I will certainly vote for whichever nominee...

Kerry has done some great things, and he has made some really stinky moves (the price of being a senator, I think)

Regardless, you all just hold onto your seats, 'cause after the nom, if Kerry gets it, it's going to be NASTY.

Nastier than you could ever imagine.
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:23 AM
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24. The media has responded when the right got vocal and organized, we need
to do the same. I don't think it will be quick, easy, or ever totally neutral, but it can get better than what is going on now. The Bush administration got the increase of market share percentage ownership through congress with Tom Delay's help and some very backroom politics. This issue is NOT dead unless we let it die.
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DannyRed Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:25 AM
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25. No, the media
did NOT respond when the Right "got vocal"

They responded when the Right BOUGHT THEM OUT...lock stock and barrel.
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iowapeacechief Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:13 AM
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26. Maybe Mencken, but...
...you might be thinking of this most-quoted line from A.J. Liebling: "Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one."
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DannyRed Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:15 AM
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27. Right!
Thanks for the heads up!
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:11 AM
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20. Great idea, I'm willing. (n/t)
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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 07:16 AM
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28. ABB!
Bush Out!
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