Vigilant Freep-holes ask "I wonder if we are closer to VP Rice?"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

VP Cheney taken to hospital - shortness of breath
MSNBC | January 9, 2006

Posted on 01/09/2006 3:16:45 AM PST by leadpenny

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1554507/posts?q=1&&page=1#1



1). To: leadpenny

I hope he will be OK. I wonder if we are closer to VP Rice?

38 posted on 01/09/2006 3:49:59 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (The search for someone to blame is always successful. - Robert Half)

2). To: David Isaac

An appointed VP may not have the legitimacy of an elected one. There's a lot of venom against Dick Cheney. There would be the same old crowd against the new person, plus whoever else who may believe that the appointee didn't earn it.

56 posted on 01/09/2006 4:04:08 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake and Bushbot)

3). To: leadpenny

Who takes his place..... Condi?

63 posted on 01/09/2006 4:12:54 AM PST by wolfcreek

4). To: wolfcreek

Ya know, unless the VP is incapacitated I don't believe a change will be made. If it didn't happen in 04, W wants to allow the GOP to have an open field.

66 posted on 01/09/2006 4:15:07 AM PST by leadpenny

5). To: leadpenny

MSM and DemoRATS are all cheering for his demise this morning.

71 posted on 01/09/2006 4:25:58 AM PST by KeyLargo

[diamondsndust]

1. how do these brain dead idiots...

even remember to breathe??? stupid people lost so far in denial I wonder if they are salvagable? the poor souls!

[ET Awful]

2. Who's cheering for his demise?

Haven't heard that anywhere.

[MadisonProgressive]

4. Hell no! I want to see his perp walk!

[mcscajun]

5. You'll see a bit of it here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x86860

Freepers must be Crawling all over DU this morning.

[Tesla]

3. Oh no its happening!!!

[jamesinca]

6. Well lets see, the Constitution answers their question

Will Condi be the VP? The 25 Amendment addresses this. Section 2 states: Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

So, if Dick vacates his position then it would be for George to pick somebody, then it would be for the Repug majority in both houses to vote for them. The question right now is this, who do Roy Blunt and Bill Frist want as the VP? Would they try to set up the '08 candidate of the repugs now?

Lets look at Dicks condition, we know his history of heart attacks and aneurysms in the knee. He is old and fat. He has a stressful job. I do not know if the SOB has any reported cases of SOB in the past so I can only assume this is acute SOB. So the differential on this is

Pleuropulmonary causes:
Upper airway obstruction (Heimlich maneuver would have fixed it)
Acute tracheobronchitis
Foreign body aspiration ( most likely would have been reported as him inhaling his food)
pneumothorax
pneumonitis
pulmonary edema ===> fits in nicely with his cardiac history, bad veins, and what he was in for
asthma
gastric or other fluid aspiration
pulmonary thromboembolism =======> blood clots to the lungs, possible with his cardiac HX.
collapse of a lung
pleurisy
pleural effusion
acute bronchiolitis ======> it is winter time
pulmonary contusion or flail chest ( it would have been reported as trauma, not SOB)
noxious gas inhalation (other people would have been effected unless it was in his secret bunker)

Non pulmonary causes:
decreased pressure of inspired oxygen, i.e high altitude
acute neuromuscular dysfunction
shock
fever
increased intercranial pressure
metabolic acidosis
psychogenic ====> anxiety related to Jack Abramhoff, Scooter and wire taps.

Some of the chronic causes for SOB are obesity, which he is, lung cancer, asthma and COPD. Does Dick smoke? That would definitely put him on track for COPD. Psychogenic disorders are also a cause for chronic SOB.

I think unless he has a real bad disease, he will get a inhaler, a diuretic, and some home oxygen and be back on the job by Tuesday. So much for the VP replacement talk IMHO.

[diamondsndust]

7. I didnt know that being..

an SOB was a medical term!

[jamesinca]

8. Depends, some places it is allowed as an abbreviation

Other places do not use it because it can be confused with Dick Chenneys personality. Son Of a Bitch or Shortness Of Breath, Dick Chenney is an SOB with SOB. My current employer allows the abbreviation of SOB to be used for the breathing condition.

Being an SOB is not a medical condition, having SOB is.

[TheBaldyMan]

9. just a quick question ...

is pulmonary oedema fluid in the lungs?
is it internal bruising?

this isn't urgent i'm just nosey.

[jamesinca]

12. Pulmonary edema

it is a collection of fluid in the lung tissue. Basically the lung tissue becomes swollen. It is caused most commonly by Congestive Heart Failure. The fluid is eventually pushed back through the pulmonary capillaries and then into the lungs. It does not start as fluid in the lungs, but will eventually get that way. The lung tissue becomes swollen, then it leaks fluid into the lungs.

Bruising is a whole different animal.

Glad to hear this is not urgent LOL

[TheBaldyMan]

13. ty n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

10. You mean the Quayle defense against impeachment of W.?

[noonwitch]

11. If Cheney were to step down, she is the logical choice to replace him

Bush doesn't like to go outside his circle for big appointments. Better Rice than Rummy, for a lot of reasons. At least with Condi, we can still celebrate two firsts-an african american VP and a woman VP, instead of another old white male.

It's not like he's going to pick McCain to be his VP. I think he'd pick Lieberman before he did that.