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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:35 PM
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Is the U.S. military coercing YOUR high school kids?
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This week on NOW:

1.) A few good kids. Is the military coercing high-school kids into
signing up? NOW investigates in READING, WRITING, RECRUITMENT.

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READING, WRITING, RECRUITMENT

Military recruitment has become commonplace on high school campuses
thanks to a little-known provision of the education law "No Child Left Behind," which forces schools to open their doors to the military or risk losing federal funds. Schools are also being forced to turn over private information about students to the Pentagon, which has angered many parents. NOW looks at how some parents are fighting back, worried that the military is reeling in impressionable kids with deceptive pitches and by exaggerating benefits.

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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:50 PM
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1. The way I look at it we have two choices:
1 - All voluntary military which needs to recruit young people to make numbers.

2 - Conscription.
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LSDMTMA Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:59 PM
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2. The recruiters are the scum, pathetic scum.
ALL of them!
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 10:17 PM
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3. Yup, I agree, sadly. It's a sorry state of affairs when our own
military must use such means (coercion, lies, pandering, etc.) in order to sustain the numbers necessary. And, of course, those numbers are required due to George Walker Bush's foreign policies including his War of Iraq Misrepresentations!





YKNM !!


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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:06 AM
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14. I love that cartoon you posted!!!!
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:16 PM
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18. thanks . . . n/t
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 10:18 PM
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4. Then you're saying our troops are scum. Many Soldiers are
assigned to recruiting duty after coming from the front.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:24 AM
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5. Twist it anyway that you want; however, don't EVER attempt
to place words into the mouth of another. You score no points in that manner!

Again, I repeat our U.S. military recruiting tactics are scum. Got it? Good.

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LSDMTMA Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 05:08 PM
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6. Scum, absolute.
My brother is a soldier, the recruiters that swindled him with false promises are SCUM. He has been FORCED into another 4 years! He hates his job. 8 years of his life gone, because a couple of goofy jerks with no philosophy or sense of history made the military seem like his only option. 8 years of his life, gone. SCUM SCUM SCUM.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 12:10 AM
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7. How tragic! And your story is not unusual, unfortunately. . .
U.S. military recruiters are so damn coercive! And once they've got you, they've GOT YOU! Yes, scum!
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:56 AM
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9. It's the tactics you have a problem with? Or the recruiters themselves?
Like I said before, the recruiters are soldiers.

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LSDMTMA Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 05:00 PM
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10. So WHAT!
FINE most were soldiers, ALL THE MORE REASON they should know better and have more morals regarding this issue. GET REAL.
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Demaholic Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:00 PM
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12. I was a soldier too...

Served in the mid 80's for the Army.

The issue here is the lengths the military will go to to recruit our children, not whether they are soldiers or not... I get so much shit in the mail (my son is a senior) that I could send smoke signals to Iraq with the fire I could build!!! (Don't forget we pay for all of it!)

They are preying on our youth where we can't see them, in school...

This shouldn't be allowed.

My son let's me know when they stop by, and always makes a point to stand right up to them and say, "Hell NO I'm not going to enlist and die for that asshole in Washington!"

I'm so proud of him.

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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:00 PM
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17. Semantics again? Ouch, this must be hitting home!!
It makes no difference whether it's congress who promulgates the law, or the military who authors the rules of recruitment and/or closes its/their eyes and ears to those who do not honor the military code when recruiting children (yes, children), or whether it's a military individual who coerces recruitment of children, per se.

It makes no difference, that is, to the kids -- children -- who sustain such coercion! The operative issue is that our American children are being coerced as are our young adults!

Again, it is of no common sense to pick away whether to *blame* a military recruiter or the military or congress, for coercion is coercion, period.

For example . . .


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CounterPunch, January 6, 2003

Deceptions in Military Recruiting: an Ex-Insider Speaks Out
by Chris White

The points in this essay concerning the dark side of military recruiting largely inform my decision to work incessantly to dissuade young men and women from enlisting. My primary audience is every U.S. citizens because it is necessary that as many people as possible understand the manipulation used by the military to lure young Americans. It is important to question the notion that the all-volunteer military is truly made up of volunteers. If one is lied to about a profession by the people who convinced them to join that profession, then is the person who was lied to a volunteer in the clearest sense of the word? My research has led me to forsake the ideology of "once a Marine, always a Marine", that imposes on us to refer to ourselves as "former Marines" and never "ex-Marines". I condemn my past Marine identity, and therefore, I proudly call myself an "ex-Marine" who is against any offensive use of the U.S. military.

I am not against the men and women serving in the military per se; I am against the way in which they are used by the government to promote the interests of its richest constituents. My doctoral research on U.S. foreign policy also convinces me that when viewed through the lens of the deceptive process of military recruiting, our actions abroad are further exposed as corruptly violent. Furthermore, I have learned that rarely has our military been used for national defense in its 228-year history. We can remember the War of 1812 and WWII as possibly the only national defense wars, but mostly poor young men and women, for the cause of defending the interests of the rich and the politicians, have fought hundreds of other engagements both here and abroad. Every service member contributes their share, which is why I work hard to dissuade anyone from joining the military.

The Bush administration's justification for waging war on Iraq is permeated by a fleet of hypocritical holes. From the absence of proof, to the double standards, to the erasure of history in public discussions, to all of the other deceitful practices that support the military industrial complex, it is clear that those who favor peace are up against a simultaneously powerful and tenuous force. The force is powerful because it has monetary and physical strength as well as the media to maintain power over the masses. Yet, the grip of the warmongers is tenuous as long as there are those who will speak out to expose the hypocrisies and lies that legitimize their rule in the first place.

Military recruiters are the first line of offense in this machinery that serves the interests of the power elite at the expense of the less fortunate. Recruiters are creep into the civilian world touting slogans to make an otherwise dismal job seem appealing. Their training is largely oriented toward marketing and sales techniques: on the first day at recruiting school, a recruiter friend of mine was told to come up with a gimmick for selling a pen. What business does the military have teaching recruiters to sell anything? Are the lives of America's youth just another commodity for the government to exploit? If the war is justified, then why do recruiters have to exist at all? Why do they even have to sell the military to young people? Why do they have to use manipulative sales techniques to convince young, uneducated minds to carry out the dirty work of war? As an assistant recruiter, I witnessed first hand how recruiters manipulate the poor and young into fighting for the rich.

First, recruiters have every incentive to be dishonest. Speaking for the Marine Corps only, recruiters have monthly quotas and, once filled, they can slack off for the rest of the month. However, the more people they sign up, the better their chances for promotion. Therefore, the incentive for dishonesty is high indeed. Recruiters lie about college benefits, duty station assignments, veterans' benefits, and countless other aspects of the military in order to convince their clients to sign. Once you are in boot camp, it is too late to change anything.

How do they lie about college benefits? They fail to tell you that you must pay 1200 dollars in your first year of the military in order to get the G.I. Bill, which is quite a chunk of money when your salary is only 700/mo. You will be lucky if you get your monthly G.I. Bill check in your first three months of college anyway, as the bureaucracy is so inept that you had better hope to have enough money saved up before you arrive. Another point recruiters leave out is that most students who are independent and over 25, civilians and veterans alike, are eligible for enormous amounts of financial aid anyway. That is, unless you already receive the G.I. Bill.

Wait a minute. Back up. So, if I earned the G.I. Bill for serving "my country", then I may not be eligible for any financial aid? Yep, ask any veteran over 25 working in college, and they will tell you that the financial aid office determines one's eligibility for grants and fellowships (free money) according to one's income, and then deletes one's income from the amount of aid one is eligible for. Therefore, if one were eligible for 9,000 dollars in grants, but received 9,000 from the G.I. Bill, well, one gets no grants. One can get loans though. All the loans one desires. This may seem like a petty argument, but remember, recruiters use the G.I. Bill to lure civilians into joining the military. So, if the G.I. Bill is not necessarily a benefit, then why should one join for the college money?

How do recruiters lie about duty station assignments? Recruiters tell potential reservists that they can go to college and serve one weekend a month, with very little chance of being called back to active duty. However, the current administration wants to call up to 300,000 reservists to the Gulf alone. I can further illustrate this with the story of my neighbor's daughter who had considered joining the National Guard. As an incentive to get her to sign, her recruiter told her that she would be stationed in Kansas, but luckily, I persuaded her not to join. Her friend was not so lucky. Shortly after joining the Guard, he was called to active duty and sent to Bosnia for two years. Thousands of National Guard and other reservists have been called back to active duty since 9/11, and thousands more will still be called to go to Iraq.

How do recruiters deceive us about veterans' benefits? I can use VA medical facilities if I want to wait five months for an appointment, but my wife cannot use them (at least in Kansas). We are both veterans, but I am 30 percent disabled, and she is not at all. Of course, who would want to use the VA hospital in Kansas City anyway? According to an AP report in March 2002, the infestation of mice, maggots, and flies in the years leading up to 2001 created such as scandal as to pressure VA Secretary Anthony Principi to remove "the director and deputy director for the regional network, which includes Missouri, Kansas, and southern Illinois." The janitorial staff did not touch the food storage areas or cafeteria for a year, and maggots had nested in two of the comatose patients' noses! This is not necessarily the fault of the VA because the federal government decides how much money will be allotted to our disabled veterans.

Ron Kovic exposed the horrible conditions of the VA hospitals during the Vietnam era in his book, Born on the Fourth of July. As a wounded Vietnam veteran, Kovic was outraged at the outdated equipment, under-qualified and uncaring staffs and the unsanitary conditions that disabled veterans were forced to endure. Therefore, not much has changed since 1970s, and any hope of future change is diminished by dubya's slashing of the VA's healthcare budget by 275 million dollars in 2002, and further cuts all around to the VA. Of course, recruiters never mention this in their deceit-filled speeches about the benefits of the military, which is why more veterans need to speak to high school students and parents about the realities of military life.

Although the lies are bad enough, interactions with recruiters can be hazardous to one's health. One poolee (person waiting to go to boot camp who has already enlisted) wrote me that my first essay had helped him to decide to leave the Marines. The recruiter lied to the poolee by saying that it was too late, that he had already enlisted and therefore he was obligated for the next four years. During my recruiting days, I learned that any poolee can get out before boot camp, and after several more e-mails, the poolee told me that he had finally received his discharge after pushing the matter a little more. His recruiter responded to him with a physical threat by saying, "If I was in front of you right now I'd knock you out." Great example of the quality of leadership instilled by military service.

My recruiter in 1994 was a Marine sniper who had served in El Salvador and Somalia among other places. He actually admitted to me with excitement that he had killed non-combatants in Somalia with a .50 caliber sniper rifle, a weapon only to be used on vehicles, and that he had taken pictures of his victims afterward. His story was semi-confirmed for me seven years later, once I read Scott Peterson's Me against my Brother. Peterson wrote, "the snipers killed more than 14 Somalis, some of them children who were found later to have a toy pistol, or nothing." UN spokesperson George Bennet later told Peterson, "They were shooting at anything by the time they left," and this statement only further confirms my recruiter's story.

Unfortunately, I too am guilty of following an unlawful order from that same recruiter, but of a much lesser magnitude. While assisting him for two weeks just after I graduated from boot camp, part of my job was to make poolees lose weight before they shipped out. One poolee was still twelve pounds overweight the day before boot camp, so naturally my recruiter ordered me to force the poolee to eat an entire box of Ex-lax, after which I had to make him do calisthenics until he lost the twelve pounds. Needless to say, he was admitted to boot camp the next day, but I am still ashamed that I made him do that. The business of recruiting is dark indeed.

Recruiters now have even more access to the young minds of America, with the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 and the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2002. These Acts require every high school receiving federal education funds to hand over the names, addresses, and phone numbers of every junior and senior to local recruiters upon request. That means that even 15 years olds, with no idea whatsoever about the real world, let alone the military, are now vulnerable to the manipulation and deception of recruiters in their own homes. If a school refuses to hand the information over, the Department of Defense steps in and pressures the school, after which federal funding may be withdrawn. According to Secretary of Education Rod Paige and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, the Acts give students more access to college, but we need to ask why it is that the government does not offer any alternative to the military for unskilled high school graduates that wish to go to college but are unqualified for college.

Our commander in chief himself took the opportunity to join the military, then took a Bush prerogative and failed to return to his duty station for a year and a half. Of course, he did not have to serve the prison sentences that others who left for that long did. Nevertheless, it makes perfect sense. After all, the president is not any different from half of Americans, who support our impending war on Iraq. While over fifty percent support an invasion, approximately 1 percent serves in the military. Therefore, only 1 percent of us is willing to fight a battle that over 50 percent of us favor, which makes it much more palatable to start a war. As long as the majority faces no direct military consequences, I guess anything, including deceptive measures in recruiting, goes. Thus, the cycle of historical amnesia is allowed to continue, and future U.S. military action will surely bring about more 9/11s.

Chris White is an ex-Marine infantryman with experience as a recruiter-assistant. He is currently working on his doctorate in history at the University of Kansas, Lawrence. He served from 1994-98, in Diego Garcia, Camp Pendleton, CA, Okinawa, Japan, and Doha, Qatar. He is also a member of Veterans for Peace.
E-mail: [email protected]

Notes

1. Libby Quaid, "VA Officials Reassigned Amid Scandal," Associated Press 28 Mar 2002.

2. Scott Peterson, Me against my Brother: at War in Somalia, Sudan, and Rwanda (New York: Routledge, 2001) 149.

3. Quoted in Peterson, 149.

4. Secretary Paige and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, "Joint Letter from Secretary Paige and Secretary Rumsfeld," 09 Oct. 2002.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/white01062003.html

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And, then there's the OP (above) where No Child Left Behind Act -- federal law -- allows such coercive military recruitment to begin while the target of "volunteer" is still but a child.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/ramasastry/20021204.html
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/20/1411229
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1206-08.htm

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:13 AM
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15. Recruiters are lying scum
just ask anyone that ever served what they thought of their recruiter.

Better yet, why don't you enlist and find out for yourself!
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YoungDemocrat Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 12:20 AM
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8. Man, oh man
The way I see it, recruiters serve a good cause but so many of their tactics are underhanded. NCLB was a disgusting act in this regard.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 05:34 PM
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11. Not mine
I taught them to think for themselves.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:04 PM
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13. Federal law requires student home phone #s, home address, grades, etc. . .
Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 11:37 PM by TaleWgnDg




The New (U.S. Military) Recruitment


It is not a surprising confluence of events — opinion polls show support for the Iraq War waning and military recruiters working harder to fill their quotas. In November, 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a study which showed, "the military is falling far behind in its effort to recruit and re-enlist soldiers for some of the most vital combat positions in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Military recruiters have been facing additional challenges in 2005. There have been a number of news stories critical of recruiting practices in the past few months; stories with titles like "Army Recruiters Say They Feel Pressure to Bend Rules," and "How Far Will Army Recruiters Go?" Two highly publicized cases came to light over the summer in which recruiters apparently broke a number of rules or used undue pressure on young people. But that's not the whole story; another headline tells the tale of the battle over recruitment in the schools, "Growing Problem for Military Recruiters: Parents."


No Child Left Behind (Act, a Federal Law Applicable to the States)


Critics of military recruiting on high school campuses are especially troubled by the passage of the No Child Left Behind Act, which altered The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974. The act requires schools receiving public funding to provide directory information on all students to military recruiters who request it. Military recruiters thus have access to the same type of information as institutions of higher education. Parents must formally "opt-out" to keep their contact information, and their child's, out of military recruiter's hands. Some school districts and parent teacher groups have taken on this disclosure rule. Others have gone as far as barring recruiters from school property — potentially opening up a legal battle similar to that over recruiting on college campuses that is now in front of the Supreme Court.

There has long been an accepted military presence on American high school campuses. The Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps (JROTC) has had a place in many American high schools since 1916 — in 1964, the ROTC Vitalization Act of 1964, directed each military service to establish and maintain JROTC units for their respective services. Supporters of high school recruiting say that the military offers a valuable career and education choice for high school students.

The June 2005 issue of HARPER'S MAGAZINE published some excerpts from a high school recruiting manual. Among the instructions: "Contact the seniors in the early spring. The end of their lives as high school students is approaching fast. This is the time reality sets in. For some it is clear that college is not an option. If you can make the appointment for a sales presentation on the first contact, then do so." The manual suggests frequent re-contacting of students throughout their high school years. (Read the manual online, pdf format, AdobeReader® required)

Today's critics of stepped-up high school recruiting and the dissemination of student information say that young people shouldn't be subjected to such a "hard sell" from the military. And, as critics have noted for decades, the appeal of military service and its educational perks is disproportionately appealing to the financially needy — so the dangers of military service may fall harder on the lower classes.
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. . . more at . . . http://www.pbs.org/now/society/recruiting.html
(red-colored bold-faced type emphasis by TaleWgnDg)
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