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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:48 PM
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McClellan: Murtha = Michael Moore (breaking from WH traveling in Asia)
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 07:49 PM by grasswire
Just breaking on CNN
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:49 PM
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1. Blitzer just read a statement from the WH
"It's baffling" that Murtha would align with Michael Moore in opposition to the war.
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blitzburgh55 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:49 PM
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2. I couldn't believe that when Wolf read the statement
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 07:49 PM by blitzburgh55
are they serious?
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:30 PM
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36. Why do media let the WH issue statements like that?
If the WH can't have a real person come out and say it to the press, then why repeat it?

What ever happened to "we asked Scott McClellan to comment, and he wouldn't respond?"
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:06 PM
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69. Because the WH can release any statement they want...
The media just reports it. The media doesn't "let" the WH release statements.

And why oh why do I have to share a name with that piece of shit. McClellan that is, not Murtha. At least I only got one C so I can prove I'm not related.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:49 PM
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3. McClellan = Asshole
Just breaking on DU
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:50 PM
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6. McClellan: Breaking wind.
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blitzburgh55 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:00 PM
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21. Five Deferment Cheney's
black heart must be about ready to explode, I gather he didn't like Murtha's speech?
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JWS Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:28 PM
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83. Cheney is the dark lord of chaos.
Man oh man! He is one ugly lookin' son of a *#&$@! He was sneering and grimacing all the way through his evil little speech. Does he really think that's the way to get his poll numbers back up? It is not just scary to know he has so much power, it is downright terrifying.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:49 PM
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4. Murtha + Michael Moore = GOOD; Scottie + Shrub = EVIL
If he thinks painting Murtha with "the Michael Moore brush" is going to take the wind out of his sails, they are DEAD WRONG.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:49 PM
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5. I still can't believe I just heard that
That's the official WH response? OMFG!

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:50 PM
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7. A 27 year Marine?
Oh shit.

Somehow I think Murtha's gonna storm the fucking WH himself now
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:53 PM
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13. I believe it's 37. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:54 PM
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16. It is "37" years in the marines..
retiring as a Colonel!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:53 PM
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14. Somehow I think you
could be right!
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plusfiftyfive Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:50 PM
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8. Guess something Murtha says is REALLY bothering them!
So they try to equate a decorated Vietnam war hero with Michael Moore?

Can we all say "credibility" in the White House??
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 03:54 AM
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78. MM printed that book with soldiers' letters in it, must have pissed off
the White House!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:51 PM
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9. post the text if you find it, DU-ers
Can't wait to see the whole thing.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:11 PM
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26. Here it is, from The White House website
Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak:


STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY

Congressman Murtha is a respected veteran and politician who has a record of supporting a strong America. So it is baffling that he is endorsing the policy positions of Michael Moore and the extreme liberal wing of the Democratic party. The eve of an historic democratic election in Iraq is not the time to surrender to the terrorists. After seeing his statement, we remain baffled -- nowhere does he explain how retreating from Iraq makes America safer.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/11/2005111...
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:25 AM
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47. I think Murtha was quite clear.
He said our troops were nothing more than targets, so let's get them off the shooting range. Sounds like a way to make America and Americans safer.

Bill
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:52 PM
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66. Extreme liberal wing! Extreme liberal wing!! Extreme liberal wing!!!
Get it??

It's the EXTREME LIBERAL WING of the Democratic Party that's talking sense... er, taking these wild, thoughtless, unacceptable, un-American policy positions.

So y'all should take that into account. All the OTHER Democrats who AREN'T part of the "extreme liberal wing" think things are just ducky!


All two of them.

This is so pathetically transparent it's funny.

mirthfully,
Bright
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Mynameissalvatore Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:17 AM
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76. Scotty,
nowhere did you explain how invading Iraq would make America safer.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:52 PM
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10. "The extreme liberal wing of the Democratic Party"
I thought MM was an independent?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:52 PM
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11. Speaking of Michael Moore...
maybe we should focus on how the Saudis have bought out many of the politicians in D.C. and how we are now fighting wars for them to support their lavish lifestyles. Just a suggestion.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:20 AM
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39. Yes, that's a great angle! Everyone hates the Saudi sheiks...
And that way it leaves Is rael out of the discussion.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:51 PM
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56. LOL - "Everyone hates the Saudi sheiks..." Everyone except...
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 12:55 PM by Amonester
our "dear" white "phosphorous" Antichrist! :sarcasm:

Yeah... Apparantly, ** just can't stop kissin' them and hold their 'bloodied' hands...

Yuck. :evilgrin:
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:41 PM
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65. I truly believe Israel is only used for political purposes.....
to further build support for the war, but the underlying motives have mainly to do with money, greed, and protection of oil assets, which is actually putting Israel at risk. We surrendered to the Saudis (who's funding was responsible for 9/11) once we started the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:52 PM
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12. The administration is so deep in the bunker
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 07:55 PM by madaboutharry
they have no clue how this sounds to the American people. This is so outrageous. A man comes back from Vietnam, dedicates his life to public service, and they treat him like sh*t for saying what needs to be said. I would not be surprised if Bush is at 30% by Saturday.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:54 PM
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15. Remember Max Cleland
I suspect he's not surprised by this.
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prescole Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:03 PM
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22. Ann Coulter (aka Paris Hitler) actually wrote that Cleland wasn't such
a war hero because he didn't lose both legs and an arm IN COMBAT.
I'd like to hear her say that about the tens of thousands of US troops maimed in this war by IEDs, NOT in combat.
True colors are showing...
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:10 PM
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38. the Swiftboating Genie only grants 3 wishes
Clelend, McCain, Kerry - that's 3. Sorry Bushco, but the Swiftboating Genie has satisfied his obligation to you - no further swiftboatings remain on your account...

Now comes the fun part of the fable - all 3 wishes go horribly wrong, and the greedy boy is left lamenting the day he discovered the lamp.

Sick 'em, Murtha!
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JWS Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:30 PM
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84. Paris Hitler! what an apt description, I like it. n/t
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:56 PM
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17. Sounds like they are digging deeper into their own hole.
:nuke:

:bounce:

DemEx
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:52 PM
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60. When they resort to ridiculous comparisons like this......
you know they have nowhere to go but down. Their true-blue, neo-con bushbots might believe this analogy but any thinking American can see it for what it truly is: a desperate statement from desperate men.
The White House isn't going to win anyone back to their camp with horse-shit like this, that's for sure.
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:56 PM
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18. Keep talkin', *. The more you open your mouth, the more you wave your
ass for all to see. Fabulous.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:56 PM
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19. Bush and his crowd of misfits are starting to act more like Nixon...
everyday. I guess they think "Michael Moore" is about the worse they can say about a person to discredit them since he has been tagged by the right-wing media...?
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:56 PM
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20. This will backfire
This will backfire on Shrub big time. I get the feeling Murtha isn't afraid of being swiftboated by these thugs. What a bunch of craven assholes.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:04 PM
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23. Michael Moore! Wasn't he the
one who made that documentary "Farenheit 9/11" that busted bush and sold millions of tickets? }(
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:09 PM
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24. I was watching "The Situation Room" when Wolf Blitzer read this
Dear God, these clowns have really hit rock bottom. Not a shred of decency or honor in the entire bunch. As if they couldn't go any lower. :mad:

Here's Representative John Murtha, a deeply respected Member of Congress (and a renowned hawk), with a 37-year-long record in the Marine Corps, a Vietnam War veteran, who has served the people of the 12th District of Pennsylvania proudly and without a hint of scandal. He delivers a powerful, emotional, common-sense speech, laying out all the reasons why we need to get out of Iraq, and this despicable, conniving cabal trivializes it by pandering to their base and playing politics.

Talk about an act of desperation. This "response" is just absolutely sickening and revolting to anybody with a brain, a conscience and a scintilla of emotions.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:11 PM
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25. Michael Moore was more right about the war than was Bush...
Moore is like a prophet compared to this bunch ??
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:11 PM
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27. This a sign of panic and desperation in the White House.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 08:13 PM by snippy
Bush is completely misreading the polls and reacting without thinking. Murtha is not reflecting the view of Moore or the views of democratic party "extremists." Murtha is reflecting the views of mainstream America. When you start calling the majority of Americans "extremist" you are alienating yourself from the majority of Americans.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:18 PM
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28. Probably Bush approving someone else's misread. (Karen?)
Can't wait to hear what Michael Moore will have to say!
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:29 PM
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74. Right you are!
I particularly like this line from Murtha's speech: ""The war in Iraq is not going as advertised. It is a flawed policy wrapped in illusion. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS WAY AHEAD OF US. "

That's THE AMERICAN PUBLIC you're smearing, Scottie!
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:31 PM
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29. My bet is Murtha will open up a can of whoop-ass
on Snotty Scotty and the WH after this. You don't mess with a guy who spent 37 years in the Marines.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:33 PM
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30. I find myself using the administration's own words regarding this:
"BRING IT ON!"
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:36 PM
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31. Hmmm, nope, I don't see the resemblence...

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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:56 PM
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32. In 1972, when I heard someone call McGovern a communist ...
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 08:59 PM by Neil Lisst
It pissed me off so badly, I resolved to be a McGovern delegate, and did just that. I was freshly out of my tours of duty, and enraged that a war veteran like McGovern, who flew many bombing missions in WWII, was being treated so poorly. And who were his critics?

Nixon? Another paper tiger who hid out during the war with a Dick Cheney like job in the Navy.

Hagel, McCain, Kerrey, Murka ... these guys need ball boys to carry their nuts around, but they have to be castigated by the likes of Bush, Cheney, McClellan, et al., none of whom could acquit himself in a fist fight with a 9 year old girl.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:26 PM
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33. Wow - and they all start with the letter M? How deep they think we are.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:29 PM
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34. Now they use poetry techniques against us - hell they've given up
on Disrali and are chanelling British poets. Run for the hills!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:30 PM
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35. Smirk takes time out from his busy schedule
of napping, slobbering, slouching, lying, dozing, and going to the bathroom to blame Dems for his disaster in Iraq.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:33 PM
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37. I think this administration just might be in it's 'last throes'. How
pathetic and overreaching is this statement. This is really all they have now, comparing a 30 year Congressman and a war veteran to MM.

I think Puffy McMoon face has just stepped in a shiny pile of dog poo. This swiftboating thing is getting really old, really fast.
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Teena Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:23 AM
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40. That does it for me.
When McClellan slams Michael Moore - someone who has done extensive research on politics and war, communicates regularly with the troops to see what they need and how things are going, and tries to let us know how this war is hurting us all - I know the Bush administration's plan for our country and the world is pure evil. Their feeble attempts at trying to refocus the public's attention off Bush and on to Michael Moore is laughable.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:25 AM
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41. Assuming he's correct, being like Moore is supposed to be a bad thing?
Moore never send people out to die for a lie.

If anyone compared me to Moore, I would be honored.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:32 AM
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42. Back to the "liberal liberal liberal" stuff.
I don't think it's enough anymore, guys. Better start coming up with something new. Or better yet, stick with it and watch it fail.
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LeFort III Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:46 AM
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43. This almost seems like a joke
What a short, poorly written statement this is. Did McClellan let some thirteen year-old play with his computer, or is he writing in anger, or is he just as stupid as his boss?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:01 AM
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44. The answer is
d. all of the above
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:00 PM
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61. Really, this is the best they've got?
The great "Rove attack machine" is reduced to this type of sophomoric drivel? :puke: The mighty bush propaganda wurlitzer is in need of some repair, all the notes are coming out flat.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:12 PM
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73. It does seem a childish way to appeal to their base
But it won't play to the majority of moderate Americans. It'll just seem petulant.

By the way, Welcome to DU!

:hi:
:bounce:
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:02 AM
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45. I didn't know Mr. Murtha...
...before this week, but he's now become one of my heroes. Obviously a man of great courage and dedication to our 'once great' Country and particularly to the men and women that serve in our armed forces. He has come to the end of his rope where this damn war is concerned and the callous disregard for our dear servicemen/women that the bush administration has demonstrated from the beginning.
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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:03 AM
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46. Murtha's response...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/18/politics/18military.h...

When asked about Mr. Cheney's remarks on Wednesday, Mr. Murtha replied sarcastically: "I like guys who've never been there that criticize us who've been there. I like that. I like guys who got five deferments and never been there and send people to war and then don't like to hear suggestions about what needs to be done."

In the Vietnam era, Mr. Cheney had five deferments and did not serve in the military.

:patriot:
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:26 AM
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48. They dont understand?
How retreateing would make America safer? If they could explain how staying makes America safer, I would actually listen to the BS they spew for more than a microsecond.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:06 PM
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63. We're fighting them there.........
so we don't have to fight them here. :eyes: Or some bullshit like that. That's what they'd have us believe anyway. If their oil was already here there wouldn't be a need for us to be fighting over there. That's it! We're fighting for their oil there because it isn't here! :think: Hey, it makes about as much sense as their statement, at least mine is truthful. :shrug:
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 05:17 PM
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80. Agreed
Hopefully, the rest of the sheeple will understand that, too!
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dennisnyc Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:40 AM
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49. Anti-war Americans like MM are in the MAJORITY! and
Progressive Values are Mainstream Values.
The "littlest liar" is just throwing dust in the air so we don't notice the new grand jury, the dems real plan for success, etc, etc, etc
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:57 AM
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50. Jack Murtha = American Hero; Scott McClellan = Scotty Potty of Spin
We need more leaders like Jack Murtha
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elmerdem Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:05 AM
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51. my question is
do these people listen? Murtha's proposal called for redeployment. He brought up many credible ideas to stay (in Kuwait & possibly Japan) to help against terrorist outbreaks if necessary. It is frickin' ridiculous for the jack asses to characterize this proposal as "cut & run" & "surrender". He also brought up very logical and state recognized arguments that terrorism has increased since we invaded & that terrorists might be less likely to attack patrols if Americans were not a part of them. Some jackass RW senator for California said we cannot leave until the Iraqis are able to protect their government. We can't even do that with all of our troops there. Iraqi government officials are killed on our watch almost everyday. Everyday I witness what is going on in the government I'm more depressed that these folks are not only ignorant, but also arrogant & the combination of the two is maddening.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:22 AM
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52. US vs. THEM
When they try to equate Michael Moore to Congressman Murtha we should applaud and repeat it over and over. Because what they are doing is expanding the spectrum they paint as their enemy. When regular non-political folks hear that someone as well-respected as Murtha is being called a "terrist supporter", they are disgusted and appalled.


These idiots are truly painting themselves into a corner. I say let's give them more paint as they increase the size of the brush.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:37 AM
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53. Un-freaking-believable.
The White House is melting down. Good. I'm sorry, but it has to happen. Cleansed by burning. America shouldn't have to go through this, but after letting *'s thugs take us as far as they did there's no other way. I dig Michael Moore, but in the thug lexicon aligning Murtha with Moore is one step removed from calling him a Nazi. "Have you no shame, Scotty?"
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:40 AM
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54. Clark: it's the American Public who agrees with Murtha
But then again. he agreed with Moore too so I guess he doesn't count.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:17 PM
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58. C'mon, what do Murtha and Clark know about war?!
:banghead: Um, oh yeah, nevermind.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:06 PM
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55. Moore bait
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 12:12 PM by maxsolomon
with * out of the country, busy "presidentin' & diplomatin'", & "blameless" as "heck", they're trying to provoke an "outrageous" response from MM, and use it to tar THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.

good luck with that. what a transparent strategy. the Rove well is dry.

visit to read moore's measured, "political" response:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:14 PM
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57. failed policy wrapped in illusion
Did you see how plain old pissed off Murtha was during that press conference? This has to have been simmering in his head for awhile.

Side note: John Kerry is on the radio (NPR) refuting Bush claims of they-saw-same-intelligence crap.

Per JK:
1. intelligence shown the Senate was incomplete,
2. Senate vote did not necessitate war,
3. inspectors were not given a chance,
4. Murtha a great Congressman, expert on defense.
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MadJohnShaft Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:36 PM
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59. That won't stick - he looks like my hardass WWII grampa!
I got to see him talk on cspan and his words made me weep with joy! Fantastic!

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:02 PM
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62. This just breaking - "the war of the Words" a must see, plenty of
action along with riveting discussions that leave us in danger of total annihilation or will it be our salvation?...

He said, she said, dint miss this heart stopping motion picture that will leave one dangling in the edge of their seats as the War of the Words comes to an exciting climax never before witnessed in movie goers history...

Playing in a theater near you, is the end of civilized society a foregone conclusion?

A political junkie movie goers delight...

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LookManLook Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:21 PM
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64. Wow
They truly are in '04 campaign mode. I guess if it worked the first time and it's the only strategy you can have.

LookManLook
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:52 PM
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75. That's all this administration does
is campaign!
Its all smoke and mirrors, and photo-ops and fake turkeys and "Mission Accomplished" banners. And 2 1/2 years later, they are still trying to sell this war to the American People.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:18 PM
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67. "You didn't hear 'mushroom cloud' from us!"
Ted Kennedy yesterday responding to the claim that the war is somehow the fault of the minority party.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:52 PM
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68. I have to share what I just saw on CNN now.
A brief report on Murtha (a two time recipient of the Purple Heart) revealed that he was visiting a comatose man who was injured by friendly fire and so was not eligible for a Purple Heart.

The young man's father stood by his son's bedside, stroking his hand. Murtha said to the father: "if they don't give him the Purple Heart, I'll give him one of mine."
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:20 PM
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70. Ok Freepers, you got your orders now.
Go and tell everyone that Murtha is the same as Michael Moore. Go on now. Type up your e-mail messages and send them to all your friends. Don't know what I'm saying, you say? For once, you are only playing dumb. We know your standard procedure: use e-mail to send out fake messages to all your "friends" and relatives to get the word out that Murtha didn't get those Purple Crosses.

Oh yeah, make sure that you don't forget to smear other aspects of his character. We're sure that you'll come up with a doozy, like saying that he only retired from the Marines with the sole purpose of getting into political office. Maybe you'll get a juicy one and say that he spent some of his career in the reserves, so that a real Marine.

C'mon, we know you're salivating at the chance to flood other forums out there and in the process try to refine your line of bull. Maybe McClellan gave you the idea. Maybe he got it from you. Tit for tat after all. I'm sure that you'll try and press your message forth and get it out to the right-wing radio show hosts. You might even get so far as to get it sent out to Fox News. After all, it worked with that lie about Al Gore claiming to invent the internet (even though he was given a Webby award for his accomplishments with regards to the internet that you used to smear him). It also worked with the
"Swift-Boating" of John Kerry last year although people started catching on to what you were doing.

You might end up believing it after you're done. You might not. It doesn't matter because you're lying for George W. Bush and therefore you are serving God as far as you're concerned, right? Right?
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ballaratocker Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:46 PM
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71. Nice to see...
that Dems' in the States are starting to speak out passionately on this farce.
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:05 PM
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72. You know what, repugnicans?
If ANYONE ever put me on one side of an equal sign and Michael Moore on the other I'd be so flattered I'd probably need to change my pants in a good way.

MICHAEL MOORE FOR PRESIDENT.

You regressives want something to cry about, we'll give you something to cry about.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 03:52 AM
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77. what a bunch of asshats!!!
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:02 AM
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79. Michael Moore's response
Sorry, George, I'm In the Majority ...
11/19/05

Dear Mr. Bush:

I would like to extend my hand and invite you to join us, the mainstream American majority. We, the people -- that's the majority of the people -- share these majority opinions:

1. Going to war was a mistake -- a big mistake. (link)

2. You and your administration misled us into this war. (link)

3. We want the war ended and our troops brought home. (link)

4. We don't trust you. (link)

Now, I know this is a bitter pill to swallow. Iraq was going to be your great legacy. Now, it's just your legacy. It didn't have to end up this way.

This week, when Republicans and conservative Democrats started jumping ship, you lashed out at them. You thought the most damning thing you could say to them was that they were "endorsing the policy positions of Michael Moore and the extreme liberal wing of the Democratic party." I mean, is that the best you can do to persuade them to stick with you -- compare them to me? You gotta come up with a better villain. For heaven's sakes, you had a hundred-plus million other Americans who think the same way I do -- and you could have picked on any one of them!

But hey, why not cut out the name-calling and the smearing and just do the obvious thing: Come join the majority! Be one of us, your fellow Americans! Is it really that hard? Is there really any other choice? George, take a walk on the wild side!

Your loyal representative from the majority,

Michael Moore

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=...
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JWS Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 05:47 PM
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81. "The great masses of the people...
will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."

-Adolf Hitler

Repug's don't like being compared to Nazi propagandists, but they refuse to stop using their tactics.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 06:10 PM
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82. It is not about the oil.

"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:14 AM
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85. Sorry, George, I'm In the Majority ...from Michael Moore
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