So does a double lie make it better? i.e. the Iraqi War

[Botany]

Bush on Friday, McCain & Headly on Saturday, and Mehlmen on Sunday
all said that the intel was not cooked so as to make a case for the Iraqi
war, that anybody who says that is hurting the troops, and the dems saw
the same intel as the White House. ...... so what is this? A negative times
a negative equals a positive?



1. Cooked intel .... the tip of the iceberg is Judy Miller.
Libby gave her phony stories about WMDs, she had those
stories appear on the front page of the NY Times, Cheney
then quotes those stories on "Meet the Press" and other places
other places as proof of their claims. If that is not cooking up intel
then I don't know what is?

2. Hurting the troops ..... Sure finding out that you were lied to
hurts and probably hurts a lot but nothing compared to the hurt
of getting your leg blown off by an IED or watching your buddy
get shot through the eye.

3. The Dems saw the same intel ...... Powell's #1 aid (a republican)
has said publicly that a cabal between Cheney & Rummy picked
only the data that supported a case for war in Iraq. Same for the
office of special projects in the Pentagon and the White House Iraqi
Group (WHIG). Also what about the Aluminum tubes, forged documents,
Hans Blix's report that he found no WMDs, Scott Ritter's report on WMDs
too, and the withholding of Cheney's "Energy Task Force" documents
that Paul O'Neil said contained maps of Iraqi oil fields in march of 01?

How do they sleep?

[Village Idiot]

1. For Number Three...

How could the Dems have had access to the same intel, when Colin Powell himself (by his own admission) did not have access to the same intel?

I had read recently that Bush took 'Classified' clearances away from 92 senators in 10-2001. Were these ALL Democratic Senators? Did they ever get theirclearances back?

Cretins. Morons. Corrupt Assholes. Repiglicans.

[pberq]

2. One point about Scott Ritter's info.

He made every attempt to get it to John Kerry in the run up to the war.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5631.htm
Kerry, Too, Needs to Clear the Air

By Scott Ritter

February 9, 2004: (Newsday)

<snip>
. . .Almost 30 years after his appearance before the Senate, Sen. Kerry was given the opportunity to make good on his promises that he had learned the lessons of Vietnam. During a visit to Washington in April 2000, when I lobbied senators and representatives for a full review of American policy regarding Iraq, I spoke with John Kerry about what I held to be the hyped-up intelligence regarding the threat posed by Iraq's WMD. "Put it in writing," Kerry told me, "and send it to me so I can review what you're saying in detail."

I did just that, penning a comprehensive article for Arms Control Today, the journal of the Arms Control Association, on the "Case for the Qualitative Disarmament of Iraq." This article, published in June 2000, provided a detailed breakdown of Iraq's WMD capability and made a comprehensive case that Iraq did not pose an imminent threat. I asked the Arms Control Association to send several copies to Sen. Kerry's office but, just to make sure, I sent him one myself. I never heard back from the senator.

Two years later, in the buildup toward war that took place in the summer of 2002, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, on which Kerry sits, convened a hearing on Iraq. At that hearing a parade of witnesses appeared, testifying to the existence of WMD in Iraq. Featured prominently was Khidir Hamza, the self-proclaimed "bombmaker to Saddam," who gave stirring first-hand testimony to the existence of not only nuclear weapons capability, but also chemical and biological weapons as well. Every word of Hamza's testimony has since been proved false. Despite receiving thousands of phone calls, letters and e-mails demanding that dissenting expert opinion, including my own, be aired at the hearing, Sen. Kerry apparently did nothing, allowing a sham hearing to conclude with the finding that there was "no doubt" Saddam Hussein had WMD.

Sen. Kerry followed up this performance in October 2002 by voting for the war in Iraq. Today he justifies that vote by noting that he only approved the "threat of war," and that the blame for Iraq rests with President George W. Bush, who failed to assemble adequate international support for the war. But this explanation rings hollow in the face of David Kay's findings that there are no WMD in Iraq. With the stated casus belli shown to be false, John Kerry needs to better explain his role not only in propelling our nation into a war that is rapidly devolving into a quagmire, but more importantly, his perpetuation of the falsehoods that got us there to begin with. . .(more)

[Botany]

3. thanx i didn't know that ....

however Kerry and the other dems did not see all the intel that White House
had seen. Also Kerry (I am not happy about his vote) signed a document
that said ...... "When all other options have failed then military action
could proceed." that was like giving bush keys to the liquor cabinet.

[Botany]

4. Now does a double lie make it better? i.e. the Iraqi War

Bush last friday, McCain & Hadley on saturday, and Mehlmen on Sunday
all dropped the following:

1. We did not make up intel to get us into Iraq;
No, just the tip of the iceberg is that Libby told Judy Miller "stories"
that were proven false, she had those "stories" printed in the NY Times,
and then Dick Cheney went on Meet the Press and quoted those same
NY Times' articles as supporting their case for war

2. Anybody who says that is hurting our troops;
No doubt finding out that your brave a loyal service to America
is not about 9/11, bin Laden is still free, that you are not welcomed
as liberators, and that your actions are creating more terrorists
would cause anybody some mental anguish but that is nothing compared
to the real pain of getting blown up by IED.

3. The dems had the same intel the White House did;
Again a lie .... the WHIG (White Iraqi Group) cherry picked the
intel so as to make their case for their war. Examples:
Aluminum tubes could only be used for enriching uranium false

[Double T]

5. bushco is built and sustained by INFINITE LIES and DECEPTIONS

They won't accept the fact that the majority of people no longer believe their lies.