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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:31 AM
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How much money did Joe Trippi make?
Anyone know? There should be an investigation. The hundreds of thousands of people who contributed money deserve to know exactly how much he pocketed. Are there campaign laws regulating the amount of money advisers can be paid?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:35 AM
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1. He Didn't Get A Salary..... He Got 15% Commission On Ad Buys...
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 07:36 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Howard Dean spent $10,000,000.00 on ads ....


Do the math...

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:35 AM
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2. First of all
There is no proof that Trippi "pocketed" anything. Second, since I gave money and you didn't, I think I am a better judge of whether there needs to be an investigation or not.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:36 AM
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3. Trippi didn't take a dime
The Doctor knows this. DFA got knocked out of two primaries, it will need the grassroots to carry on.
You think this Gore guy got what it takes? Perhaps...
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:36 AM
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4. Read somewhere that he pocketed 3-5 million
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:37 AM
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6. read somewhere, did ya?
care to be a little more specific?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:38 AM
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8. oh my god....
I did post grad work in Poli Sci...

I am now a small publisher....

I went into the wrong business...

I should have went into the "public non-profit sector"....
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:37 AM
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5. Keep in mind
The best thing for the RNC would be if people became suspicious of online donation. Let's wait to hear from the Dean campaign and quit stirring the pot for the R's.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:38 AM
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7. that's precisely the point for SOME of the people who are trying
to make an issue out of this.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:40 AM
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9. I Don't Think The Media , The Press, and The FEC
will ask our opinions before they investigate...


This is all rather tragic....
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:44 AM
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12. We can reserve judgment can't we
until a reputable source speaks on this. Meaning don't believe most of what our lame media says OR anyone without credible documentation.

I have imagined RNC operatives devising all manner of crap to thwart opposition online donation - it's been the bedrock for Gov Dean and the other candidates are beginning to catch on with their own websites. Look for R talking points on this in the coming days.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:55 AM
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14. What's the distinction between an online donation and a check?
I don't see how the medium for the donation is even a talking point. The difference between the Dean's grass roots movement and the RNC is the pure number of people making small donations (Dean) vs the RNC's corporate backing.

If the RNC wants to make a point that the voice of millions of small contributors is easily manipulated with graft and corruption, then there is just one word to say in response. Halliburton.
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Gringo Tex Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:58 AM
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17. Actually, Reeps make more $ off small donors than Dems.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:22 AM
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22. So you're saying Bush's 200 million came from small donors?
I don't believe that for a second.

On what facts do you base your assertion?
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Gringo Tex Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:29 AM
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23. Reep fundraising
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 08:30 AM by Gringo Tex
First of all, Bush doesn't have $200 million yet. And I really don't know what his fundraising breakdown is. All I'm saying is that for several years now, Reeps have raised more money from small donors than Dems. I can't be bothered to go find a link right now, but it's public record and common knowledge among development professionals. It reflects the lousy job Dems have done of selling their party's ideology over the past decade. We got lazy, rode Clinton's coattails for 8 years and then paid for it in 2000.

edit: My point being, it's wrong to assume the Democratic platform sells itself to the middle class.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:40 AM
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25. It is the GOP stuff that is put out. I have read that also
You know the grass roots love Bush and all that. I know nothing about the other but was sort of shocked when they said to day that pay checks would be held off for 2 weeks. I thought he had lots of money.He is the only person I have ever sent money to . Very little as I have very little.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:42 AM
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26. Are you unaware of the hundreds of thousands
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 08:45 AM by jean
of dollars donated in small amounts via online donation? If they can dry up that resource we can't compete.

When have we heard about paper checks trickling in via snail mail to bolster his campaign? He is not raising tons of money overnight via the USPS or thousands of people handing in checks nationwide.

The RNC corporate backers are not (I'm just guessing) submitting their big bucks to Bush's website. We have heard much about the fund raising dinners where millions have been coughed up to his war chest.

We need to maintain confidence in our online apparatus to keep small donations coming in.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:22 AM
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29. Its millions of dollars actually
and I am aware of it because that is how I have made my contributions.

I don't know the breakdown of how the money arrives, I get emails and snail mail requests to contribute. One has to assume that if they are spending money on snail mailers they get snail mail back.

Bottom line it is not the medium by which payments are made, it is the idea of grass roots support being an inappropriate or insecure means by which to contribute.

Confidence in the apparatus is nowhere near important as confidence in the candidate, and the integrity of the candidate's organization.
The constant beating in the press dries up cash. Poor results in the primaries dries up cash. And organizational shakeups can dry up cash.

I did a little investigation and found that Bush has raised $130 million so far, and they claim to have received it from 500,000 contributors. Of course when Bush is not on the ranch goofing off or flying halfway around the world for photo ops, he is on the $2000 per plate dinner circuit raising cash. He has been doing this twice a week for some time now.

When was the last time you heard about a Democratic candidate being able to fill an auditorium with people willing to pay two grand for a piece of chicken and cold green beans? One wonders how much corporate cash gets funneled through these "individual" contributions.

What Democrats need to do to counter this is fill up football stadiums or public parks with people willing to contribute $100 for a potato chip with some Cheez-Whiz on it. After 3 years of Bush, I sure as hell can't afford $2,000 for rubbery chicken. Even if it is served with a healthy side of Jesus and the prospect of killing more brown people.
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:41 AM
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10. Enough to get fired n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:42 AM
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11. I Am Beginning To Feel Sorry For Howard Dean....
NT
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:48 AM
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13. I Think The Greek Aphorism Applies To Trippi...
"Before the gods destroy a person they make him great"


All this talk about Trippi reinventing politics has turned out to be hollow....


Sad....
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:55 AM
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15. Why are the financial arrangement's between employee and employer...
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 07:56 AM by NNN0LHI
...any of my business?

Don

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:58 AM
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16. Because They Are Using Money Collected From The Public For Non
Profit Purposes and subject to the laws which govern these activities...


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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:00 AM
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18. I am not familiar with these laws. Please excuse my ignorance
Thanks for the explanation too.

Don

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:04 AM
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19. I'm Not A FEC Specialist
but I would think you need to disclose what you did with the money you collected...
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:06 AM
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20. As I said to someone earlier
whatever financial arrangement Trippi had with the Dean campaign has long been known.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:10 AM
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21. If Trippi Made A Nine Figure Salary Off This Campaign I'm Troubled
as I would be troubled if any campaign manager made that kind of money...


It's not right...
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:38 AM
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24. Since Trippi was Dean's ad buyer.... he made around 4-5 million
Estimated.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:43 AM
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27. That's Incredible
A campaign manager making a mid nine figure salary...

That's outrageous...
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:01 AM
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28. Power to the people, baby!!!!
Like Johnny Rotten once told a crowd after a 15 minute Sex Pistols concert: "Ha ha ha. Ever get the feeling you've been...cheated?"
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