Fitzgerald is already disappointg me

[patrioticliberal]

They say AT LEAST TWO indcitments at RawStory.com . How about TWENTY TWO like rumored before? And one already submitted to grand jury, according to RAW STORY.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

1. This might help you feel better

It's all gossip.

The truth is that no one knows anything.

Just keep that in mind.

No one knows anything.

[hippiechick]

Why are you disappointed in Fitzgerald ? HE didn't say '22' ...

... or 2. It's all RUMOR and CONJECTURE thus far.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Check some other threads here

They say that there can be several charges and several people cited in a single indictment. And they also remind us that Fitzgerald runs a tight ship-the leaks could be coming from defense attorneys as part of a disinformation campaign.

[thoughtanarchist]

3. at least 2

means there WILL be indictments. No less than 2. There could be MORE than 2, but there will be no less.



That is all.

[emulatorloo]

4. and read this DU thread as well - "What does "ONE" indictment mean???"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5166422

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and then there is the ****FACT**** that no one, including RawSTory, knows what Fitzgerald and the Grand Jury are going to do, except of course Fitzgerald and the Grand Jury

[xultar]

5. Buhwawawa! Y'all hate the guy already!!!

[sendero]

7. Some folks..

.... can really turn on a dime!


Why don't we wait and see what happens before we start dissing Fitz?

[xultar]

17. Now Fritzmas sux and he sux and the GJ sux and they all sux

:rofl:

[louis-t]

6. Idiot Scarborough was on last night claiming leaks

were coming from Fitzgerald. They are desperate to frame this thing their way. Perjury and obstruction are just 'technicalities'. Prosecutor is 'despicable'.

[longship]

8. Fitz didn't say two indictments!!!!

A source "close to the investigation" said it. That means Rove's lawyer, Libby's lawyer, a White House flack, or somebody else like that has said this. RawStory reports what they hear.

It's up to us to read this story and apply the appropriate filter. There indeed may be two indictments, or more than two. I think we know that there will be at least two indictments. If that's all there will be, and it's Rove and Libby, or Libby and Cheney, that's good.

What will happen might not just be good. It could be better. Or it could be best. Nobody outside the DOJ knows for sure, and they are not saying a word about it.

Keep the faith.

[deadparrot]

9. Raw Story has reported "at least two" and "twenty-two" indictments.

Raw Story doesn't know what is going on.

No one does--except for Fitzgerald.

Please, please, please, please try and relax.

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. Why hold on to the 22 rumor?

It was just a rumor, after all. If I start a rumor that 300 indictments will come down, and only 20 do, would you be disappointed.

Also, the phrase 'according to RAW STORY" is sign and symptom of bullshitology to begin with.

[warrens]

11. Some email says 22 and you hold a close-mouthed prosecutor to it?

It was never going to be anything like that. 22? Now Flocco is saying 28. I say seventyeleven. sheesh. No one except Fitzgerald knows how many he is going to ask for, and he has no idea how many the grand jury will actually indict.

[elperromagico]

12. If you hear that I'm giving you a whole cake,

then later hear that I'm only giving you two slices of cake...

You're still getting cake, aren't you?

:P

[AspenRose]

29. Mmmmmm......cake.

:9

[madrchsod]

13. this guy knows

"only the Shadow knows"

[canichelouis]

14. People are just frustrated and worn out

from waiting, I know I am.

[patrioticliberal]

23. Yeah..and I want the whole administration indicted!

They're all criminals!

[AlCzervik]

15. How about waiting for Fitzgerald to speak instead of just believing what

you read on the internets?

[montana500]

16. one submitted indictement

could mean any number of people will be charged.

[crispini]

18. Oh, please.

:eyes:

[applegrove]

19. Rumours are not his fault. No doubt rumours have been put out by

a few neocons & Rove WH operatives to make things look good in comparison (you remember how they made Bush sound "retarded" in the run up to each 2004 debate...so that he would win by simply having out-performed "expectations" and it would not matter if Kerry had trounced him - because that was "expected").

Don't fall for the rumours.

Don't fall for the game of your expectations being raised and then the truth is less - so you fell a loss.

Stick with the mantra - you don't know - until you know.

[Spurt]

20. You forgot to take your chill pills.

Take a double dose now and have a wee lie down.

Fitz will tell the ONLY true story in due course.
;-)

[kurth]

21. Probably there are only 30-40 people in the country who know for sure

- Fitzgerald and his inner circle of a few closest lieutenants
- The administrators in the courthouse and Fitzgerald's office who process the paperwork
- The members of the grand jury who approve the indictments

So far Fitzgerald's operation has been very disciplined and leakproof. They can certainly keep their mouths shut for a couple of more days, unless they want to risk severe punishment from him.

[jwirr]

22. And even if it is just two + delay's mess, it is good.

What would upset me would be if those indictments are for minor players like they were in the Iran Contra thing where the big guys got away only to show up years later working for bushie.

[patrioticliberal]

24. The big guys will get away again

Unfortunately

And Larry Johnson was the one who said 22

[Garbo 2004]

25. Unless rawstory is issuing indictments itself, I'd suggest waiting for

the grand jury. Rumors frankly don't mean squat. It's what actually comes out of the grand jury that counts.

And as for another part of the article, no the NY Daily News aa far as I can tell hasn't actually "confirmed" rawstory's report that Hannah and Wurmser flipped. Perhaps they have indeed flipped, but when a MSM article mentions them, rawstory links to it and says their reporting has been "confirmed." Perhaps they view the mention in an article as an oblique manner of confirmation and perhaps it is, but nevertheless it is not an actual statement confirming rawstory's reporting that these specific individuals have flipped. It bugs me when stories cite other media stories as confirmation when they overtly aren't.

[mbee]

26. He has already said he isn't filing a final report and yet he

has put up a website. My feeling is he is going to INDICT BIG and the website is to put out all the information to avoid all the disinformation the complicit media will be putting out there. I trust this guy to urge the GJ to do the right thing if crimes have been committed.

[thereismore]

27. Just hold on to your cookies and you will be OK. nt

[IndianaGreen]

28. There hasn't been any leaks from the Special Prosecutor

so getting disappointed about media speculation is silly.

[DearAbby]

30. Fitzgerald give a news conference? Was this from his own lips?

Until then its all rumors and conjectures. Wait until it comes from the horse's mouth!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

31. Two indictments could easily involve way more than one person or crime.

An single indictment will often include multiple counts against a single defendant, or even multiple counts against multiple defendants. So even if it's true that "only" two indictments will be issued (which we don't even know), that wouldn't mean only two people are indicted, or that they are charged with only two crimes.

[leesa]

32. I think that's a disgusting thing for you to say. If he can bring a

single indictment against this powerful crime syndicate, he's done good. Who the hell are you to be disappointed...you bring more indictments?