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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:01 PM
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Stray thoughts about the Fitzgerald investigation
1. His new website
A real possibility is that he's built a very complex case with numerous connecting threads and links. The Niger forgery. Why Cheney wanted to destroy Brewster Jennings. Links to Larry Franklin. And who knows what else? Too complex for a bunch of shill reporters to comprehend or remember from a press conference. And yet, getting out complete information to the public on significant matters of public import is necessary. In today's world, if you want to disseminate a lot of information to a lot of people quickly, you put it on the web.

2. Wiretaps
I haven't heard anyone talk about wiretaps at all in this case. Surely the judges who approved sending a reporter to jail because of the national security import of this case would also approve wiretaps. I wonder how many phones Fitzgerald has had tapped for how long. I would not be surprised if he plays a wiretap or two at the press conference announcing indictments. It will be important to governmental stability and public acceptance that any major indictments have credibility, and if there are charges that we haven't been hearing about a lot lately, it will require some evidence to give them instant credibility. Nothing does that like a taped confession.

3. All those redacted pages
In the judges' decision to jail Judy Miller, there were a bunch (10? 12? I don't remember exactly.) of redacted pages because of national security issues. How many pages does it take to say that Valerie Plame was a secret agent? I wonder what else was redacted.

4. We may never know all
We've heard rumors of negotiations with Cheney on a plea bargain and resignation. Seems odd to be negotiating like that with the top guys in a conspiracy. Normally you bargain with the little guys, in order to get to the top guys. But I've thought of one possible explanation: To convict him of some of the nastier possibilities might require revealing in a public trial more about Brewster Jennings and CIA methods than the CIA wants to do. Bringing down Cheney may satisfy them.

5. Larry Franklin turns state's evidence
I haven't paid a lot of attention to that case, but recent rumors about Fitz being in contact with the prosecutors in that case raise the question for me: Gee, I wonder if the connections between the cases are what scared Franklin enough to start cooperating?

6. When will Sandra Day O'Conner make her mea culpa?
It's been a mystery to me for years why she and Rehnquist didn't step down years ago. From all we hear, she's wanted to retire for years and yet she hung on for years during which the boy king, her choice for president, could have put anyone he wanted on the court. But she waited until he was politically weakened before she announced retirement. Rehnquist hung on to the bitter end, even though he couldn't physically do the work for a good while, again while boy king could have done anything. Why? I wonder if they belatedly realized that Bush v. Gore was a disaster, for the country and for the court. Almost certainly the most dishonest and corrupt decision in the history of the Supreme Court. It will be a permanent stain on the court, expecially if the administration that they installed by judicial activist fiat crashes and burns in an orgy of crime, corruption, and treason.
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:04 PM
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1. Honestly...
at this point I'm suprised Fitzie has'nt washed up on a Potomac bank yet!....Remember ,the Neocon arrogance is only exceeded buy it's resolve.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:06 PM
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2. Maybe the CIA
and the FBI is protecting him? * did piss off a lot of people.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:08 PM
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6. Quite possible.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:37 PM
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4. I'm sure that there are intense think tanks on that one! But you just
gotta know that Mr. Fitzgerald has got all bases covered just in case.

You can bet the mob sure wanted Estes Kefauver dead, the Tennessee Senator, that put out the Kefauver Report on crime and corruption in the 50's. I'm sure the pressure is just as great on Fitzgerald.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:16 PM
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3. Oh wiretapes...let there be wiretaps! If only there were some of Rove
on election night 2004. Let's not stop at the Plame leak...
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:04 PM
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5. Wiretaps
Yeah, I think wiretaps could be great. Originally, I intended to make this thread just about wiretaps, but other ideas kept coming in.
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