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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:41 PM
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It's hit MSM! Matthews discussed "broader" investigation, forged Ital.docs
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 06:55 PM by Wordie
He did extensive coverage on the possibility of Fitzgerald looking at criminal charges in relation to faulty reasons for going to war! Not just the outing of Valerie Plame.

MY GOD! I can hardly believe this!

Edited for grammar.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:42 PM
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1. And the wh is already considering who might be able
to fill 'empty' shoes should indictments come down. That's the first time I heard that!
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:43 PM
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2. Does MSNBC replay Tweety later in the evening?? I just got home
from work and am not near the idiot box...
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:45 PM
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3. I think so...it may depend on your local carrier though.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:38 PM
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18. Video of David Shuster report from Hardball here -- it is dynamite:
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 09:39 PM by emulatorloo
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:46 PM
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4. What's Italian for
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 06:48 PM by rocknation
"I'm keeping MY job as leader of my country, Georgie! I'm in enough trouble as it is, and though Tony Blair stuck out his neck to save yours, I'll be damned going to do the same!"

:headbang:
rocknation
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:54 PM
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9. same as what "innuendo" means....
innuendo - "I an no gonna takes a buttafuck for you...."
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:46 PM
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5. Let's see. Gannon replaces Mehlman.
Mehlman replaces Rove. Hughes replaces Condi. Condi replaces Cheney.
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:13 PM
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12. Nah. Gannon replaces Scottie McClellan. nt
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:21 PM
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13. KO was actually discussing investigation going HIGHER than Rove & Libby!
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:46 PM
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6. Signs and portents ...
Does this herald an end to the Dark Ages and the beginning of the Age of Indictenment?
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:47 PM
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7. Interesting...The Italian investigation concluded that Chalabi's
people were responsible for the forged documents...Thank you Dick Cheney and Richard Perle for placing such reliance on Chalabi...

Assholes!
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:51 PM
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8. But who knows, at this point, what Fitzgerald will conclude.
He presumably has access to way more information.

I just can't believe this! This is the biggest political thing that has happened in my lifetime. Bigger than Watergate!
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:06 PM
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10. Bigger than Watergate
Bigger than Watergate, Teapot Dome, and Iran/Contra all combined. And yet hardly anybody in the general public has more than a clue what's happening. One of these days, they're all going to be saying "Huh? WTF just happened? Where's Clinton's penis?"
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:11 PM
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11. I've been posting this stuff here & there...people are just in denial
most of them, at least.

This is EARTHSHATTERING, and all it gets is this sort of ho-hum response. (Although there do seem to be some who get it.)
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:28 PM
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14. I think it's more the MSM than the sheeple's denial.
You have to search for info about this whole thing. Well, the last week or so, MSM talks about it some, but they still act like it's only Rove and Libby.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:43 PM
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15. That's the amazing thing...some msm are talking about more than Plamegate
Tweety actually was talking about larger international implications and the forged Niger uranium documents, and how the scope of the investigation was now thought to be way beyond the outing of Valerie Plame.

KO actually was talking about how the investigation might go higher than Rove and Libby, and who is higher than Rove and Libby?

So, only this afternoon, it appears there has been a HUGE change. Maybe it's the Fitzgerald website that went up. Everyone is saying that it means that there really are going to be charges.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:13 PM
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16. Yeah, people have mentioned Tweety saying stuff like that a couple times
I still can't stand to watch so I don't.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:03 AM
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21. did watergate happen in your lifetime?
Cause there is no way that this is going to turn out bigger than Watergate. Watergate resulted in the President resigning. That isn't gonna happen here.

onenote
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:19 AM
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22. I remember finding the article buried at the back of the paper, and I got
all excited and KNEW there was more to it. My friends (even very liberal ones) didn't really think it was that important. At least at first...

So, I get the same feeling here. I think Plame is only the tip of a very-much-bigger iceberg. And, it's gonna be bigger than Watergate, imho.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:29 PM
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17. I like it! What particular criminal charges could be brought? "Fraud"?
n/t
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 11:54 AM
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24. I don't have the legal background to know...but Fitzgerald is said to be
very smart in this regard! (Crossing fingers)
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:49 AM
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19. I have been telling my kids for days this is bigger then Watergate
I want them to know they must defend this nation after I am gone.
Their grandmother can not believe she can have a discussion with them over what is happening in our nation today. Raise your children right, spoon feed them politics.

:kick:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:02 AM
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20. How would the WMD lies give rise to criminal charges?
Like it or not, its not illegal for a government to lie to its people. In theory, Fitz could go after admin officials that lied under oath in Congressional hearings, but there is zero chance of him stepping on Congress' turf in that way. So it would have to be perjury before the GJ... likely source of indictments with respect to the Plame outing, but not about anything else, IMHO.

onenote
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:23 AM
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23. Who knows what Fitzgerald might have up his sleeve... eom
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