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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:58 AM
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MILITARY TELLING PARENTS TO ASK THEIR KIDS TO JOIN ARMED FORCES
http://todaysmilitary.com/app/tm/nextsteps/talk#choose
from the new today's military propaganda website that I just saw advertised on Bravo!

<snip>
Choose A Good Time
If you're waiting for your child to talk to you, don't. They're likely trying to figure out how to talk to you about it.


Choose a time when distractions are at a minimum. Not during TV, gaming, or homework time. Not just before bed. Over mealtimes are great, but only if the situation is right—make sure there are no other siblings or guests around.
If you're together and you see a TV ad, billboard, or an article about the Military, it may be a good opportunity to raise the topic.
<end>


DISGUSTING! Telling parents to talk to their kids BEFORE the child even remotely shows any signs of wanting to join Bush's bloody wars by saying, "THEY'RE LIKELY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT" --- BULLSH.T!

Impeachment - Visualize It!

and you ready for the C*L*I*N*C*H*E*R ????
look at this link below, and get ready to VOMIT when you see what they type out on the screen! :puke: :puke: :puke:

http://todaysmilitary.com/app/tm/
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:01 AM
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1. Reverse psycology
they are trying to get the parents not to tell their kids to stay out of the armed forces
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:04 AM
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5. yeah, the old, "if I say not to, they'll wanna go join the military"
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 02:09 AM by themartyred
the old way of getting a sizeable percentage of young male grads to join the military is LONG gone and they're freaking out they don't have enough naive victims to suffer the Bush-era death sentence of making the horrible error of joining the US military - while Bush is in 'charge'.

ooh yeah, and I see it too this way, they know if most (not the right wingers, but reallllly how many of them are there?) parents talk to their kids they may talk them out of it, so they wanna discourage them... gosh, I'd love to have sat in on the discussion about how to design that damn web page to listen to those bastards talk about how to twist people's minds.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:02 AM
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2. Make sure there are no other siblings and guests around.
Yeah, like OLDER siblings who might have a clue, or GUESTS who might know WTF is going on?

bush has reduced Clinton's proud military to a bunch of groveling desperate body-seekers.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:09 AM
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6. that is SOOOOO funny! good point. they could scream "don't do it!" N/T
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:03 AM
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3. I agree...
They do need talked to and I'd rather my kid hear it from me than from a recruiter or anyone else. At least I know I would be giving my teen the truth and not someone's bullshit or stories of glorification.

So, yeah...parents should talk to their kids about it...especially before the military gets their hands on them.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:03 AM
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4. I told my son that I'd break his legs if he tried to join the military.
Maybe I should have waited until we were eating dinner?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:11 AM
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7. chuckle. good one.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:19 AM
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9. He's 14 and (by law) his school allows military recruiters.
I was going to opt him out (also by law), but then I considered how much fun the other students would have watching a recruiter trying to sign him up.

Thankfully, the apple didn't fall far from the tree in this case...
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:28 AM
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12. Another smile on my face. Thanks. n/t
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:26 AM
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15. That's what I told my son. He rolled his eyes and said,
"Ma, do I look stupid??"
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WearyOne Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:18 AM
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8. are there websites one can point to that show the real horrors
of war and tell kids how they will be really treated in the armed forces ?

Not political ones but something run by other soldiers. They should know everything they are getting into.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:22 AM
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11. at least this is something. I'm sure there's specific ones designed
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:20 AM
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10. Yes Dear, my children can't go, but I'll be sending YOURS...
Says Mammy Bush

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Renegade Six Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:34 AM
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13. lol
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 02:35 AM by Renegade Six
The best part is the fact vs myth section where they talk about competitive wages. I was given this form that said I 'earned' $47,581. (I make around 28k) It was chock full of Enron math and it actually said "show this to lenders when applying for loans or credit cards so your lending institution can see how much you REALLY earn." Yeah, thats what I need - a document that will get me more credit than I can afford so when I fail to pay it the government can take away (legally of course) a good portion of my pay and a few pay grades as punishment for not being able to pay my bills.

BTW I plan to engage in some direct action outside of recruiting stations when I get out of the army. Anyone have some good LEGAL ideas?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:09 AM
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17. Welcome to DU!
They'll say ANYTHING. Glad you see through it.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:47 AM
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14. Yes kids, you too could return home like this:


...and be billed by your grateful government for lost helmets, suspenders and rucksacks.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:01 AM
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16. As a parent myself, my response is K.M.A.!!!!!!
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 06:04 AM by calimary
And go fuck yourselves, dear friends at todaysmilitary.com!!!

Believe me, MY kids do NOT have enlistment on their minds. NEITHER ONE of them does. I've done my best to cement that in place, for GOOD. Literally - it's for their good that I stress this repeatedly - things like "it's like all those war-play video games, only - you DIE!!!"

My kids are both very enthusiastically into the martial arts. They're black belts and my daughter's going for her second degree. I tell them things like - "imagine going over to Iraq, getting one of your legs blown off, and then coming home and trying to do a whole bunch of jumping inside crescent kicks."

I tell them if they're determined to do something this ill-advised, at least wait til after I'm dead. I remind them of how John-John waited to take flying lessons til after Jackie-O died. She didn't want him to fly. She made it VERY clear. Out of respect for her, he waited til after she died. And look what happened. Mom knew. Listen to your mom.

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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:45 AM
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18. That is...kids....AFTER
all the pResident's, Senator's, Representative's, Governor's and every other Republican's KIDS enlist...then, and only then, comes a very large maybe...
windbreeze
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d59cy6 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:32 PM
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19. sick stuff
This is blatant indoctrination. If Dems were trying to do anything like this, all hell would break loose.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:04 PM
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20. THANK YOU!
smart comment. seriously, HOW can we allow them to get away with this (surely a rep. from our side has seen this) and indoctrinate people with psychological trickery with saying

"your child is thinking about enlisting"

the F--- they are! I'm sure most parents on here (I'm not one) are like, yeah right, they and their peers think very lowly of the military right now as a group and I have seen a significant drop off in the macho bullshit mentality from the repugs I know when it comes to the war. I believe the tide has turned and nothing will bring iraq back into bush's favor. Thank God! What a horrible farce this whole 'Presidency' has been, he is the biggest jackass of a man that fell into becoming a puppet president for the pnac-ers!

Great responses everyone, keep telling kids you see about the horrors of war (not the whores of war, that will encourage some of the young men I know, ha)
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:13 PM
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21. Maybe the GOP could give today's military their donors address list?
Just do a direct mail campaign to their donors.
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