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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:35 AM
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I Just Finished Watching The Pilot Episode of "The Lone Gunmen"....
this is the one that the description says "the Gunmen stumble onto a sinister plot to ignite hostilities worldwide and increase arms sales".

The air date was 3/4/01 - 6 months before 9/11/01.

"DOD Scenario 12D - Domestic Airline In-Flight Terrorist Act"
(i.e., Flying a plane remotely controlled into the World Trade Center)

They show the plane taking off from Boston Logan Airport and they show views from the cockpit of the plane as it approaches the WTC.

Coinkydink - I think not!!!!!! Pretty scary!!!!!!! Don't think I'll sleep tonight.

What was it that Condi said about planes being flown into buildings?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:38 AM
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1. "Lone Gunmen" is kind of a misnomer, isn't it?
I mean, if they are "lone", how are there more than one of them?
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:41 AM
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3. I'm Talking About Life Imitating Fiction And You're Questioning....
why they call the show 'Lone' Gunmen when there's more than one?

I don't know - perhaps it's a conspiracy.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:46 AM
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5. I think my question is a lot scarier than yours...
Granted, it's not scary at all, but it's also not keeping me up at night...
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:49 AM
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6. It's a play on words
and a poke at JFK assassination conspiracy theorists who don't believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the "lone gunman". In the paranoid conspiracy theories, Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone and therefore there must have been "lone gunmen". The three conspiracy geeks in the X-Files based the name of their newsletter on this word play.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:54 AM
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13. Kind of like "jumbo shrimp," I guess.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:32 AM
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16. They took the name from the X-files episode that explained their origin.
In (very) short, two hacker/nerds and an FCC type met at a convention back in the 80's & were sucked into a labyrinthine government plot.

Towards the end of the episode, as they begin to perceive the extent of secret government perfidy, they ask a spook* "Who killed Kennedy?" His answer: "I always thought it was a Lone Gunman."

Thus they began their search for The Truth. They also met a young & naive Fox Mulder & began enlightening him at the end of the episode.

A True Fan can correct any errors & supply more details--like the name of the episode.

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* Not the Spook Who Actually Killed Kennedy--that's another episode.


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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:41 AM
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2. Spooky, isn't it? n/t
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:43 AM
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4. The real lesson ...

The thing you should take away from that show is that, yes, people had actually considered the concept of hijacking an airplane and smashing it into one of the world's most recognizable landmarks for the effects it would cause world wide.

This simply proves that the Shrub, et al line that "no one" could have have predicted that is utter bullshit.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:50 AM
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7. Also keep in mind that the F/X channel aired a movie about a hurricane....
...that would devastate the Gulf of Mexico including the oil ports in New Orleans & Houston. This movie aired about a month or so before Katrina hit. It didn't predict the devastation in NO, but it did predict the ridiculous rise in gas prices as a result.

Do some digging into Rupert Murdoch's connections and you'll wonder if these programs were mere coincidences at all.
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Generarth Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:21 AM
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10. Considering
how many hurricanes have been through the Gulf of Mexico lately it wouldn't seem like it would take 'connections' (to god?) to predict something along the lines of what did happen. Murdoch is as likely to get involved in writing a plot for a disaster movie as he is in writing plots for the simpsons.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:53 AM
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8. Not spooky: read this
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200509/slenske (subscription link)

Assassination Attempts

... Richard Nixon (February 22, 1974). Two years after the Secret Service first investigated him for threats against Nixon, Samuel Byck shot his way past security and boarded a commercial airplane in Baltimore, intending to hijack it and fly into the White House. When informed that wheel blocks prevented takeoff, Byck shot the pilot and co-pilot and then killed himself.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:19 AM
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15. which was made into an excellent film last year
"The Assassination of Richard Nixon", with Sean Penn starring as Byck.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:02 AM
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9. There were numerous books that had this plotline
I remember one called "Storming Heaven" and a Tom Clancy novel that I can't think of the title of right now. The scenario was widely discussed.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:54 AM
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12. Debt of Honor was the Clancy book.
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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:30 AM
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11. The Lone Gunmen Episode 1: Pilot
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:16 AM
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14. A possible smart, thoughtful show that morphed into the three stooges.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 09:17 AM by preciousdove
(sigh) immediately. What were they thinking?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:33 AM
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17. Yeah... :^(
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