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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:47 AM
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All Gulf oil output shut down

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tporleans/archives/2005_09_29.html#083576


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The Minerals Management Service said Wednesday that its survey indicated that 100 percent of oil production in the Gulf is shut down as well as more than 80 percent of natural gas production.

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"We've never experienced the amount of damage to the rig fleet we've experienced from these two storms," said Tom Marsh, U.S. editor of the energy information firm, ODS-Petrodata.

Damage is not the only reason that production has stopped, or what the industry calls shut in.

Gary Strasburg, spokesman for the MMS, which is an agency of the U.S. Interior Department, said some production has stopped because of Federal Aviation Administration restrictions on overflights, which oil producers need to do to assess damage before sending crews out. Also, the oil industry is still attempting to locate its employees, and even when oil is produced, refineries and pipelines cannot always accept the oil.
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a lot of the floating rigs are missing and some have sunk or been beached

no money for xmas, new year's presents this year - all the money will have to go for heating, car, medical.

oh, the financial backs that will be broken.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:48 AM
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1. I hope my job isn't outsourced. It'll be very cold without income.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:48 AM
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2. Yet another mission accomplished
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 11:51 AM by Mika




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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:49 AM
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3. You know what that means...
...TAX BREAKS FOR BUSINESSES...

Come on yall, they need the breaks. This could KILL them. And the breaks will "trickle down" to the little guy. We assure you. Oh, and the economy is strong, turning corners even. And we're winning in Iraq, got 'em on the run. And Rove and Cheney and Libby and DeLay and Frist and Abramoff and all the other GOP crooks...innocent I tell ya. Vast left wing conspiracy.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:16 PM
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8. That's right: "A rising tide lifts all corpses".
We have to subsidize the profits they can't make right now. We just have to.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:49 AM
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4. So FEMA is flagrantly impeding efforts to bring oil production back on
line?
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:59 AM
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6. FEMA? I didn't see it mentioned
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 11:59 AM by MaryBear
in the article? Or is this post a joke?
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:02 PM
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7. This will most likely be used to justify
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 12:15 PM by MaryBear
increased fuel costs

decreased pay

decreased safety measures

etc.


(on edit: I meant this reply to respond to the initial post.)
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:20 PM
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10. thanks to
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 12:23 PM by AnneD
FEMA's 'coordination' many areas without power do not have generators. Without generators you can't get the water and sewage going. Without the water and sewage people can't come back. The people in these towns are the ones that work at the plants and rigs.
Without 'coordination' of manpower and equipment in the removal of debris from dock slips and regional airports, you have no way to get supplies and fly crew out to rigs. Oh, did I mention that the refineries need electricity and staff to process crude.....
Once again, the Mayor of Houston is doing more than FEMA. Seems he is getting calls from these smaller town mayors asking for supplies and his office is scrounging for them. Instead of a generator for one town----they sent a 4 stall shower set up. Well if they every get a generator, that stall might be handy.
When you are freezing your ass off in winter cause there is no heating oil, don't blame us. We wanted to get back to work and return to out normal lives.
Oh, and another thing you might want to consider when you pay that higher price in the grocery store.....NOLA was a major shipping port for food and crops.....
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:09 PM
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14. Sorry, it was the FAA. When one misreads then assumes and jumps to
erroneous conclusions, one makes an ass out of oneself.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:41 PM
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15. don't let FEMA off to quickly
they have been impeding progress.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:55 AM
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5. I thought things were just hunky-dory
The line has been that the oil rigs suffered much less damage than was expected.

So, what is it? Light damage, or a total rout?

--p!
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Savannah Progressive Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:19 PM
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9. Does it really matter? This is what we have been calling for.
We have for years demanded that Americans use less oil, constantly pointing out that they pay this much for Gas in Europe.

The Sierra Club has the right idea here http://whistler.sierraclub.org/action/tamain?alid=418 Calling on people to oppose the new oil rigs and drilling. They also oppose new refining sites.

Al Gore's book Earth in the Ballance, which holds it's place of honor in my home, would have won Al the Election by a landslide if he would have embraced it instead of running from it out of fear of the Partisan Fascist Media.http://www.uneco.org/Earth_in_the_Balance.html

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=669657

In the end, it shouldn't matter. Higher prices means less usage, which means that our planet will suffer less. We should tax the greedy lying oil companies over this new found profit.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:41 PM
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12. Oh, I'm not arguing for increased consumption
I'm just puzzled by the tremendous discrepancy in the news stories.

Actually, I'm not puzzled. I know that plenty of journalists (usually with persuasion from their editors) lie.

--p!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:25 PM
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11. i'm recommending this b/c i know WE can't afford the gas bill this winter
and i'm betting few others can. combine this with the new bankruptcy bill and you have an instant new underclass. that's pretty heavy zeitgeist material.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 02:02 PM
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16. this is why I don't believe all the Wall St happy talk now
Consumers are carrying alot of debt now. Starting in Nov, the min payments on that debt will go up. Gas and heating oil will go up to nose bleed altitudes. And your groceries, etc (shipped via truck) will go up. Forget going home for the holidays, it will cost a fortune or you won't be able to get a set on the curtailed schedual.
All these economist were 'suprised' at the low consumer confidence numbers this week. What will they say come Dec when consumer numbers tank. Remember----our ecomony is consumer spending generated (2/3). Look for deep discounts and red ink come Jan by retailers.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:52 PM
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13. interesting
i wonder why gasoline in the midwest is not a million dollars a gallon right now? no oil workers,no oil platforms, no gas rigs. shit i guess they`ll have to raise the price again!
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