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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:21 AM
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Is Bush Out of Control? Capital Hill Blue today
Is Bush Out of Control?
By DOUG THOMPSON
Aug 15, 2005, 05:46

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7...

Buy beleaguered, overworked White House aides enough drinks and they tell a sordid tale of an administration under siege, beset by bitter staff infighting and led by a man whose mood swings suggest paranoia bordering on schizophrenia.

They describe a President whose public persona masks an angry, obscenity-spouting man who berates staff, unleashes tirades against those who disagree with him and ends meetings in the Oval Office with get out of here!

In fact, George W. Bushs mood swings have become so drastic that White House emails often contain weather reports to warn of the Presidents demeanor. Calm seas means Bush is calm while tornado alert is a warning that he is pissed at the world.

Decreasing job approval ratings and increased criticism within his own party drives the Presidents paranoia even higher. Bush, in a meeting with senior advisors, called Senator Majority Leader Bill Frist a god-damned traitor for opposing him on stem-cell research.


Is this true or not? Who knows but its great reading!

tib
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:23 AM
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1. Dems need to pile on this
They need to force a public meltdown of spectacular proportions. With an unbalanced personality like *, it's very possible.
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:28 AM
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2. How much would we love to see a public meltdown on TV?
I hope to see him disolve in a puddle of piss, vomit and crap as the weight of what he has done sinks in... all in public on tv.
In reality it would prolly scare me no end to see this happen, but I still want it hehe.
tib
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:46 AM
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35. He nearly did that....
during the first debate with Kerry last year.

Everyone knows there is something seriously disfunctional about this guy.
He's the Emperor without clothes.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:31 PM
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42. Video of UNMISTAKABLE mental deterioration...
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 12:32 PM by Karenina
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:48 AM
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63. very scary
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:21 AM
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89. That is an eye-opener...what a contrast! eom
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:06 AM
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91. my goodness
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:05 PM
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53. His handlers have too tight a rein for that
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 02:06 PM by YOY
One can dream, can't one?

and I don't 100% beleive the article. Not that I wouldn't like to.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:29 AM
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3. Everything I see and hear about him* says to me - 'Child'
tantrums, lying and bullying to get his own way

I think he needs a time-out, a long one.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:29 AM
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4. Good !
I hope he fucks up on tv in front of everybody.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:31 AM
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5. This is rediculous!
A president acting like that! It's embarrassing!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:33 AM
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9. If true and I don't think this article is a stretch
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 10:39 AM by DoYouEverWonder
this is not just embarrassing, it is a matter of National Security.

Bush needs to resign for health reasons as soon as possible.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:10 AM
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20. Bush has some mental concerns, he smiles after annoucing bad
Iraq war news? he's got this sick smirk/smile on his face that's crazy, I can't think of a more appropriate word...crazy,nutso,whacko? and he is our leader??!! That's really cause for concern!
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:32 AM
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29. I noticed that also! He also has this weird downward smile sometimes
And I know from being sober for a long time myself that untreated alcoholism, even if the person is not drinking, is horrible. "Dry Drunk" is the word they use for it. But from the pictures I have seen I am convinced that some of his drunks are really "Wet Drunks"
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:14 PM
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40. Yes -- Dr. Frank has the same opinion. "Wet drunk." n/t
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:45 PM
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54. That's why I can hardly stand to watch him speak. That
smirk just makes me so angry!

Another thing: has anyone noticed that his body language says something a lot different than the words coming out of his mouth?

So here's the conundrum. I can't stand to watch him, but that's the only way to tell if he means what he's saying. Oy!
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:31 AM
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6. They're just now noticing?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:31 AM
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7. Interesting thing about Doug Thompson
He knows a shitload of people on the Hill; he used to be a staffer years ago and then a reporter. He takes some great pictures, too. Now he is kinda semi-retired.

He used to be an ardent, avid, hyper chimp supporter, to the point of total irritation, frankly. Then one day he woke up and just said "Bullshit!" He styles himself as a Libertarian...but since the 00 elections, he has gone from "Support the Chimp" to "Depose the Chimp" in rather dramatic fashion. He thinks Congress is a den of thieves (not wrong on that, really).

This is not the first time he has suggested that monkeyboy is heavily medicated and off the page.

My take: his sources are good. He's been around for a long time.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:36 AM
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12. Why is it, however
that no one seems to pick up on his stuff?

The MSM is too scared, but you'd think someone like Sy Hersh might run with it.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:03 AM
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17. MSM will pile on *'s mental state later on...
once the indictments begin.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:16 AM
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23. Not To Beat A Dead Horse, But . . .
Just think what would happen to * if the Margie Schoedinger story would get a little steam now??? That would be time for him to have a co,plete and total meltdown on live t.v. - you know, dissolve in his own piss, vomit, and shit.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:52 PM
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51. Yeah! Maybe then they'd jump on it.
I think they'll wait to do it till he's critically injured, politically speaking. However that may come about certainly works for me!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:44 AM
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67. Welcome to DU! I think you're correct about this.
Once he's certified as dead meat - and it actually could take his leaving office before that happens, maybe even all the way into the next presidency. By then, you'll have a long series of shameless, mewling, pathetic Johnnie-come-lately mea culpa books from Judy Woodruff and Andrea Mitchell and Tim "buy my book" Russert and Wolf Blitzer and Katie Couric and John King and Candy Crowley and Dana Milbank and a whole slew of "reformed" whores who'll whine in print about what obnoxious bullying lying bastards populated that White House and what an awful, repressive, mean ol' regime it was and how miserable it was to have to cover these goons and how many complaints they all got from the White House thugs and the Vice President's office and rove's office every time one of them even gave the barest hint about stepping out of line and how scared and intimidated they were and fearful for their jobs and their careers and how they just SO SO SO BADLY WANTED AND DESPERATELY LONGED AND YEARNED to tell the truth but just couldn't, or didn't dare. 'Cause their poor widdle selves were afwaid!!!! And waaaaaahhhh, poor-widdle-me, boo-hoo-hoo. It'll be like the Simpson jurors, and evidently now, too, the Jackson jurors, who are now busily and piously trying to absolve themselves from having done one world-class, short-sighted, self-serving, criminally shit-ass poor job. Just watch Editor & Publisher. They'll be all over it.

I'd bet we're gonna see this. We're also probably going to see every one of them, like reformed drunks, resolving loudly and sanctimoniously that they'll never let any White House get away with this crap again, and their brand new spines will grow into place at just about the same time a Democrat gets back into the Oval Office. THEN they'll be rough and tough and hard-bitten reporters, resolved to look out for "the people's business."

I tell ya, as a retired reporter, there are no words to express how disgusted and utterly revolted I feel toward most of my former colleagues. They should be ashamed of themselves. Because the wreckage and mass murder and capital crimes and mortal sins this bastard has committed - all of it - THEY allowed. THEY enabled. THEY excused. THEY helped. THEY collaborated. They covered up. The blood and guilt and sins and crimes are all on THEIR hands, THEIR heads, and THEIR consciences. Every last one of them who could have done SOMETHING, ANYTHING to stop this and didn't - EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM IS AS GUILTY AS HE IS. And every last one of them will eventually have to answer for it, AND pay for it, just as he will.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:47 AM
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92. I'm waiting for the day some of those so called reporters you
mentioned are at a media forum covered by c-span and someone gets up and says exactly what you wrote

You wrote what I think and what many others think too

Thanks
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:14 AM
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22. Some people are pissed off at him
He can be a bit abrasive, and when he was drinking he was a real ass. He may have burned a key bridge or two.

My take on his sources??? Look for anyone that was on the Hill when he was working there, who has moved slowly up the ladder over the years and is now doing some reasonably heavy lifting at sixteen hundred Penn.
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meg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:32 AM
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8. I think that CHB was right last year when
Bush apparently had a break down. Remember his meds didn't seem adjusted quite right when he was debating? All that twitching and slurring and brain freezes beyond his normal level. Remember the debate backpack>
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:36 AM
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13. Here is a link to last years article about bush mental state
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4...

Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
Jun 4, 2004,

President George W. Bushs increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides privately express growing concern over their leaders state of mind.

In meetings with top aides and administration officials, the President goes from quoting the Bible in one breath to obscene tantrums against the media, Democrats and others that he classifies as enemies of the state.

Worried White House aides paint a portrait of a man on the edge, increasingly wary of those who disagree with him and paranoid of a public that no longer trusts his policies in Iraq or at home.

It reminds me of the Nixon days, says a longtime GOP political consultant with contacts in the White House. Everybody is an enemy; everybody is out to get him. Thats the mood over there.

more at link
tib
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:35 AM
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10. You know that
Hitler had the same outbursts- especially when things started going wrong.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:36 AM
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11. This is different
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 10:38 AM by ewagner
from the other stories about his demeanor and illness.

All the other articles have been anonymous. This one is with a by-line and at least a hint about the identity of his sources.

This is, in my opinion, much more damaging than the other articles.

on edit: I'm referring to the Voice of the White House columns....sorry for the confusion.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:37 AM
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14. No wonder bush likes bolton, they have plenty in common.....
doesn't it give you a warm, fuzzy feeling knowing your country is being run by a bunch of certifiable psychopaths?
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Yellow_Dog Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:50 AM
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15. but this
fucked up basket case still has the button on his desk, and I'm sure black heart Cheney is believing that GDumbya is finally and truly completely converted to the dark side now.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:53 AM
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16. My favorite line
"They describe a President whose public persona masks an angry, obscenity-spouting man "

The angry, foul-mouthed,arrogant man is not masked at all, only the blind sheeple refuse to see.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:04 AM
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18. not even nixon was this bad
The President of the United States is out of control. How long can the ship of state continue to sail with a madman at the helm?

twenty fifth ammendement time
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:20 AM
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25. Oh, yes he was
You forget, Nixon was too drunk to take phone calls from world leaders at times, he was sobbing, talking to paintings, and insisting that Kissinger, a secular Jew, get down on his knees and pray with him....Nixon was AFU, too. Heavy paranoia! And guilt to go along with it!!

He even avoided a subpeona by claiming his phlebitis was too severe--he could have been deposed from his hospital bed. Then, he got his pardon, and he slipped away, only to return as a foreign policy whiz, though on a much smaller scale...and then he died.
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Cynot Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:57 AM
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74. Yes, he definitely is a madman, but...
He isn't the first president to fit the description. (Not that that's any consolation.)
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:16 PM
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76. One diff, Nixon sobbed. I cannot imagine Bush sobbing.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:36 AM
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30. Read "Arrogance of Power" by Anthony Summers.
Nixon was that bad.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:37 AM
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31. Who thinks DSM Memo is more serious then Watergate?
Sibel Edmunds, Rove, and the DSM doesn't leave much to the imagination when spoken about!
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:09 AM
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19. kick (n/t)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:12 AM
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21. Kickin' this one!
:kick:
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:17 AM
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24. wow
How is this man still in office..

:shrug:

oh yeah.. I remember now. :tinfoilhat:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:23 AM
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26. I'm seriously worried about his mental stability.
And not so much about Washington, but in Crawford. I think the reason they send him on these outrageous '5-week vacations' is because they know he's fragile mentally.

So what happens? Cindy Sheehan and company arrive, right on his doorstep. This is an instant downer, because now he has to justify what he does all day long, in particular when he doesn't meet with her. The fact is, he CAN'T meet with her. Cindy Sheehan has publicly announced that she's going to debate him - something he's not able to do right now.

Next, the Sheehan group sets up 1,800 white crosses. If Bush was teetering on the edge before, this will be the death knell. Here, in his pristine protected environment, the deaths that he has caused are in his face. It's got to torment him. Friends, family, cronies, they all see them too.

This is very dangerous for his mental state.
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:12 PM
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60. This is very dangerous... for our country.
I think you nailed it about why the 5 week vacation....

Having a mother out their angry with him must bring up all kinds of Barbara yelling at him memories.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:25 AM
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66. Oh shit... you just brought up a REALLY strong point -
"Having a mother out there angry with him must bring up all kinds of Barbara yelling at him memories."

You bring up a VERY powerful point. I'll bet you're just absolutely SPOT ON about that. Deep down, I bet he hates ol' Bar for her tyrannical rule of the family, and still struggles against the "wimp factor" against his father, and the whole macho swaggering Texas cowboy crap he's embraced. SERIOUS pathology here. So many of those in his White House just now make me think of some serious overcompensation problems...

Also, there's been so much speculation that the reason this schmuck runs off on these carefully-managed, relentlessly sequestered vacations is because he needs the time to dry out.

HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO STAY IN THIS HOSTAGE HOLD?
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Bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:25 AM
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27. 20 years of Cocaine and Alcohol abuse
is going to cause problems in anyone.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:27 AM
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28. GWB is a classic dry drunk.
I think the real reason they won't let him meet with Cindy is he'll let his "true self" be seen. Why else is he so sheltered from those who disagree with him?
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:02 PM
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39. He isn't dry
There are so many reports he is back on the scotch they all can't be false. There is the video of him shit faced 6 years after he claims to be born again. See this video
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:35 PM
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49. I have to agree. lThe paranoia is classic advanced alcoholism
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:38 AM
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32. yes but, smirk is just the puppet. a hard to manage puppet but

never the less a puppet.

I've never forgotton the first ? press briefing the bushgang had after the coup d'etat. It was held in a smallish room in the W.H. and the press filed in down one side of the room, facing smirk and the whole lot of them seated beside and behind him.

smirk was looking at the press but everyone else beside and behind him where looking at him with an awful intensity. as if they thought he would sprout a second head at any moment.

there must be a video of that meeting. it was brief. smirk said what he said and dismissed the press. I think it was the first time the press was stunned by the new reality.

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verdalaven Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:48 PM
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44. Reminds me of the 9/11 comish (?)
when he had to have Cheney by his side to testify. Talk about low and un-presidential, to need the VP to hold his hand.

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:40 AM
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33. DELICIOUS!!!
I love it....I actually DO think he's cracking up and it's a problem that they thought they'd contained by sending to him to the ranch for an easy month of photo ops, bwaaaahahaha!
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:44 AM
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34. Having read "Bush on the Couch".....
I have no doubt this is true.

Bush is one fragile mofo, and that's about the best that can be said of
him. It's very unlikely he is dealing at all well with his current situation.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:54 AM
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36. Mom always said if you can't say anything nice don't say anything
at all. So I will say something nice to george bush* regarding this story.

george, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean someone's not out to get ya. You got a shifty bunch of fellers (and "ladies") around you and you better keep TWO eyes on every last one of 'em.


Hope that helps.

:evilgrin:
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:55 AM
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37. hes got"Munchhausen disease"
he has to tell the people other countries are sick and undemocratic.or are going to harm our country.....this is his "parent" actions to bring sympathy to himself....like he knows soldiers are being killed.but he says its him.that needs a life...he thinks the people want him to relax.to have a "crisp leader"...he sees himself as a victim of all who oppose him...and starts the propaganda to make one feels for him....

this man is totally sick..and he has his followers ........who believe everything he says...hes dangerous......to the entire world....he is the one who has his finger on the switch....and if this is true.he must be taken out of the WH.by force if necessary..for the survival of our country......
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:00 PM
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38. Whether the article is founded or not, it is very believable.
I have read * on the Couch, by Justin Frank and what you describe hits the article right on. This is why they will not leave him alone with Cindy, she has good instincts and he probably would let his guard and she would really see him for who he is, much more than previouly. Remember the 2000 election when * and darth vader didn't know the mike was on and they called someone a jackass or asshole, can't remember which one? Remember when he didn't like a reporters question and just walked off stage? Remember the opening of the Clinton Library, how he tried to squeeze ahead of Clinton? These are only a few instances of how this egotistical, world's got to revolve around me, bastard acts.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:14 AM
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72. Thinking that his mic was off, he said " There's that major league
a**hole, , from the NY Times."

I can't believe how the sheeples ever fell for him!

I don't believe the 2000 election was even close, to tell you the truth. It was stolen all the way, just as 2004 was.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:20 PM
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41. So what happens when
the "puppet" takes control?

I have no doubt that early on Dubya was just an absolute puppet being run by Cheney and Rove. But I think the ego has taken over and now the puppet is rebelling against the puppeteers. I think that might be behind the CHB stories. He has realized that ultimately, he has the power and he is using it and it scares the crap out of the real puppeteers.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:58 PM
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45. Do you suppose that's why they keep him so medicated?
Just to be on the safe side, they pump prescription sedatives into the old boy so he WON'T take hold of the reins.

An interesting though.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:46 PM
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80. Remember that spit on the sides of his mouth,
that is a telltale sign of anti-depressant meds. Because he is an untreated alchoholic, there is no way he can get through the day without meds. Hopefully, they have him on anti-psychotic meds as well.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:39 PM
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43. Sounds like Uncle Adolph in the latter days n/t
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:02 PM
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46. capitol hill blue is a crap website
if someone can get a video of this shit, I'd take it seriously but otherwise this could be a bunch of crap. Not that I don't find a grain of it believable but it just reminds me of Rathergate. In case get the left to believe that Bush is going off his rocker and bringing Bush down is just around the corner.
The 2004 election's over, let's focus on winning a democratic majority in 2006
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:48 PM
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62. You could be right about this being a red herring....
but I still think we should focus on Sept 24-26th and the getting the message to Washington DC that IMPEACHMENT IS the WILL OF THE PEOPLE in numbers they can't ignore. 100,000 - 200,000 at a minimum will be there that weekend protesting the war in Iraq and calling for him and other war criminals to be impeached.

I think that getting these louts out (and that means we keep going from Bush to Cheney all the way down to Hassert) means that our work to bring the DEMs to the front in 2006 will not be hindered by all this black box crap and shady dealings. We have to behead this multi headed political beast through legal means so that 2006 will be a legal election. I believe we have had the majority since 2001 and definately in 2004, and even Republicans are leaving their party because of what has gone on.



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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:19 AM
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75. Democratic party identification is important
one of the GOP's strategy has been to make calling yourself a democrat radioactive. By their own policies, they are making calling yourself a Republican radioactive
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:24 PM
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84. In MN we have Republicans that try to get along among others..
I went to a town hall meeting with Jim Ramstad and he stood toe to toe with about 100 or so pissed off voters in Edina's council chambers. We grilled him about the war and corporations not paying taxes and the energy bill and cafta.

It was hard for him, but a lot of us gave him props. At least he had more guts than the pRes and he has voted against the party line and for his constituents. Well, maybe it is only so he can get re-elected, but as long as he really takes care of his responsibilities to his voters I don't care why... just that he does and that his voters are keeping him in line.

For instance he's trying to get that emminent domain issue brought back up in a bill because he believes it's unconstitutional for the government to abuse their power and take people's property away.

He voted against his own party for more funding to public schools because he knows MN would roast him alive if he didn't.

Still when I asked him about the hidden riders in the Energy Bill he blanched. He never said if the provision to lessen restrictions on export of weapons grade uranium was in the bill when he signed it or not, but I doubt it... and I think he had a real understanding of how dangerous that provision is to him and every Republican who wants to get re-elected as well as potentially everyone who wonders what the hell Haliburton is doing in Iran giving aid to our soon to be Enemy.





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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:29 PM
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47. Wow, that's very interesting.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:35 PM
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50. This is a rewrite of his past articles--He just inserts new examples (Fris
t this time).
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:34 PM
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48. Alcoholic paranoia, dementia?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:55 PM
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52. His shining glory of "Mission Accomplished" if DOA.
He lied about going to war and proved he was incapable of prosecuting it. His accomplishments will be:

* 3000 Americans dead because he didn't bother to pay attention to intel..
* Turning a $500BB budget surplus into a $500bb deficit.
* Destroying a reasonable vibrant economy with his welfare to corporations and the 2% wealthiest.
* Failure to get OBL
* Lying about a causus belli with Iraq.
* Killing 10's of thousands of innocent Iraqi's and thousands of US service men.
* Spending $300BB on a fool's war.....and see the price of oil go from $28.00/bbl in 2000 to $70.00 now.*
* Stealing 2 elections he deserved to lose.

He is a spectacular failure as a man and as pResident.









* House of Saud and House of Exxon-Mobil appreciate his work here.
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slestak Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:12 PM
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55. If you've read "Fortunate Son"
you probably aren't suprised at all by these tales.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:53 PM
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56. I'm Sure It's True, We All Saw It In Debate #1
against Kerry.

Bush pouted and had a temper tantrum like a 4th-grader which is probably when his mind stopped developing.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:35 PM
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57. this would be believable except for the source
and this guy wrote something like this a year or two ago, it sounded like fiction then and this does too.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:55 PM
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58. My partner just pointed out that it sounds like cocaine withdrawal
Betcha they cut him off.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:49 PM
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81. The CHB guy or our pREsdent?
I have a couple of fiends inside the beltway, who, shall we say, are pissing blood and vinegar about the new Foreign service de-certification. To be honest, it has affected them very badly. THEY, in turn, have fiends in DOD, State and CIA, who seem to confirm the CHB story, in a way that scares the living daylights out of me.

Could this be merely retribution for their politics and an effort to change FS into an proBush SS? very possibly. But, on the other hand, I wonder.

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:58 PM
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59. Sounds like a little kid not getting his way
or Nixon during his dark days.

I'll bet Dubya's really frustrated that he never actually gets to do anything except ride his bicycle, cut brush and fall off his Segway.

I'm just scared that if they won't let him be a "war president" he'll decide to be a "nuclear president".
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:39 PM
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61. Devil's advocate....
If I had painted myself into the corner Bush has painted himself into I think I would be raging too.

Here is a man who has to be in on things or get stabbed in the back by some of his shaddier co-horts, not to mention how hard it must be to sleep at night having done the things he has done. Sleep depravation leads to mental stress, ongoing fatigue and irritability.

Just keeping up with half the shit this administration is dishing out has me up at nights, sometimes until dawn trying to get a handle on it and I don't have to make decisions about how to screw America today. Whatever I do is part of the upswell in human outcry that Bush can feel tickling the back of his neck everytime he takes a step in any direction.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve what he's getting, just that it might not be insanity or dementia, just simply his natural consequences for making the choices he has.

Still, if I had some magic wand and it could be determined that all these who are bent on destroying this country could simply be healed and join in the effort to rebuild... I'd wish it could happen. I'm realistic. I doubt there's any chance, but although those people and their actions make me sick to my stomach, I'm not as angry as I was when I started learning about all their deceipt.

I literally would not have pissed on Bush if he were on fire in front of me. Now, I would do the right thing and cuss myself out afterward. I feel like in getting over my anger at him at least to that degree, where I don't see red whenever I think about him.

It isn't that I want to let him off the hook for the things he's done, but I'm beginning to believe that anything I could do or say to him is miniscule compared to the simple rebound affect of "what goes around comes around."

Whether it's God, or our collective higher consciousness, or just nature his behaviours are offensive on every level and will come back to haunt him and all his little cronies. I have faith that he can not resist the accumulated will of the people and that our collective spirit is breaking down the walls of their sheer defiance.

Does that mean my job is done? Far from it, but I feel like I could stand there impartially and hear the facts and simply make a decision based on the facts without even caring enough to hate him anymore. He's had enough of my energy in that way.

He and his rabble need to be impeached, but I'm not going to enjoy his every humiliation, because that would bring me down to his level and if I'm not going to be about more than that, I'll STILL be part of the problem and not the solution. THAT goal is more important to me than his just rewards.

A criminal in the stocks he will be, but I won't be throwing things at him. Give him too much of an excuse to feel sorry for himself. I'll be too busy working with others to fix the nation he broke.















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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:52 AM
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64. The emperor is MAD
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:46 AM
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65. Bernie mentioned this a few minutes ago... n/m
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:50 AM
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68. "The President of the United States is out of control."
The President of the United States is out of control. How long can the ship of state continue to sail with a madman at the helm?


RayGun's staff managed to cover up for RayGun -- he was showing signs of Alzheimer's disease long before his wife admitted it.

But bushie is worse -- much worse. bushie has his finger on the nuke button -- and right now he has Iran or Syria or maybe North Korea in his sights.

He is crazy -- and he could care less about the suffering his mistakes are causing individuals (like Cindy Sheehan) or whole countries -- like Afghanistan & Iraq. Problem is that he has installed crazies just like himself who have been busy purging anyone who disagrees with bushie's "gut feelings".

Once the real stories of the "real" bushie start coming out -- and people will be telling stories -- there is no way that someone as crazy as bushie can be covered up forever -- everyone will say -- yes they knew he was crazy.

I've been predicting bushie will have a public disintegration -- he may have had several small episodes -- but the media whores aren't telling. The DU-ers who can listen and watch the bastard have been detecting visible signs of a slow disintegration.

One thing I've noticed is few people are mentioning his smirk.

He is nuts -- completely nuts -- problem is he has surrounded himself with like minded nuts -- Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Bolton, etc. etc.

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:20 AM
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69. scarey sh*t- it looks like war with Iran is a done deal
unless sane(r) forces prevail.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:29 AM
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70. This man has been out of control for his whole life.
I distinctly remember reading an article about him in Time or Newsweek in a doctors office back when his dad was in office and ready to campaign. The picture the author painted of * was as a vindictive, hot headed, screwup who his dad could count on to keep the rank and file loyal to the cause. Article also said that Poppy had hopes for Jeb to become president, since he was the brighter of the two.

One of these days I need to look that article up.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:42 AM
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71. Yeah, well, gays can't marry so what's the problem?
:sarcasm:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:19 AM
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73. "The Madness of Prez George" We all suspected and laffed at
the thought of Bushies Staff having nightmares trying to clean his act and covering for the dude...but this childish tantrums and tirades indicates our Nation is at risk.

Who will be the whistleblower, the American Hero, to come forth and confirm the mans unfitness to lead??

We need to KNOW, have a right to KNOW....Its our Nation too.
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adolfo Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:48 PM
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77. Don't forget..
..about the man behind the curtain. Bush is just a public figure.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:56 PM
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83. But Bush is the Delivery boy..it is he who must perform, talk those points
and convince the Sheep. That he has some strange undiagnosed shit on his brain negates Rove/Hughes/etc...that boy cannot even remember shit, he always fucks it up.


The Whole Conservative Movement lies on Bushies Back...He folds, the Pubs take a major HIT.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:25 PM
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78. Yep, he's out of control.
:)
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:29 PM
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79. It's finally sinking in that as with everything
in Bush's life, he is A LOSER PRESIDENT!! Unfortunately, the devastation he has caused will be felt for generations to come. What he has done to our country cannot even be measured.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:56 PM
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82. bttft
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:33 PM
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85. I REALLY, REALLY enjoy reading this
I like the idea of that fuck falling apart
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:49 PM
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86. Bush's paranoia comes from his unconscious which he
can't control!!! He is having sleepless nights!!!

and will for as long as he lives!!!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:53 PM
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87. "An obscenity-spouting man."
Sounds about right.

Mood instability due to an unbelievable narcissistic nature ... that's the way I see it.
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:59 PM
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88. The WH aides and everyone else around him are probably
so happy he went on vacation! They dread getting him back - especially after the Cindy Sheehan vigil - wow they thot he was out of control before - just wait until he comes back this time!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:45 AM
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90. I'm not sure about the dry drunk thing
I have been sober for 6 years and 4 months and chair secular sobriety groups. I don't believe that part...after the first couple of years your either sober or you're sober.

That he hasn't been treated for his neuroses and insanity is doubtless true.

I am convinced that he's paranoid and a megalomaniacal asshole.

He's also convinced that he hears god speak to him...so he's also Joan of Arc I guess.

A sick, sick, sick bastard at best.
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artemisia1 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:03 AM
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93. kick /nt
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