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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:18 PM
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House action now!!! The Rs are pulling something in regard
to the Medical Malpractice law. Barney Frank is raising hell. Something to do with rules and unanimous consent.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:26 PM
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1. Medical malpractice amendment: Repugs put an amendment in
to insinuate drug companies won't be liable for any drugs approved by the FDA regardless of whether their drugs are killing people. Franks claiming it's an abuse of power. Go, Barney!
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:50 PM
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10. ahhh...
...the Human Lab Rat Ammendment.



slick move Reps.

pretty heated debate.



Lawyer fee caps is a good idea. Cut the greed for the pros and settlements wont be so high.

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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 06:59 PM
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26. No they aren't
It's been solidly proven that capping lawsuit awards doesn't do anything to malpractice insurance. That and how will a corporation actually feel accountable if the MOST they have to pay out on a case is $500k? That's pocket change for a lot of big companies that end up doing bad things and are on the receiving end of said lawsuits.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:30 PM
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28. Agree
Companies will just factor the amount of the capped penalty into the cost of developing the project. When you buy the drugs, you'll be paying for their cost to settle any lawsuits while they keep selling bad drugs.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:28 PM
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2. the way I understand this is
it can't be debated........thaat the Democratic party is out of line and not heeding the GOP rules.

is this what is happening?
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:29 PM
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3. Called my congresswoman
The staffer knew very little but I voiced my opposition in that the cap is too low, and the physicians will see ZERO reduction in their premiums unless there is an accountability component to audit the insurance companies/cap the premiums.

This is just a big giveaway to the insurance companies, the HMO's and the pharmaceutical companies. This is NOT to protect docs.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:33 PM
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4. Frank and Delahunt have both been hammering on the
same concerns you voiced.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:36 PM
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5. Too right you are.
I was watching a bit of it and, Anthony from NY (?) was very eloquent in his speech blasting this bill. He had facts and figures of how this is not working in states where it is in effect. He also brought to light the Rs would not let this go to committee (I think) he said if it had he would have the facts and figures for last year. Basically he said what we all know this bill is against the citizens and for big business.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:41 PM
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7. Anthony Weiner, from NY; he was eloquent and angry! nt
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:47 PM
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9. 
OMG Wexler almost said a curse word. The democrats are on fire with this one!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:57 PM
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11. Doesn't sound like this bill has been passed, but
I don't know. All the Dems sound pissed at this one, as well they should be. Why can't all these people be ruled by their consciences? x(
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:03 PM
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12. Because the moneys in the medicine not the cure.
As long as guns and drugs own our government we will suffer at their hands.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:38 PM
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6. Raul Emmanuel up now, talking about Merck and VIOXX.
They want to slip this in so Merck doesn't have to answer or pay for deaths due to Vioxx when not all research was provided to FDA to prove the product was unsafe.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:05 PM
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13. The Rep two step again, and our boards are tied up
with prolonged discussions on whether or not a man we already know to be vindictive, petty, uncouth, and egocentric may have flipped off his propaganda squad.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:09 PM
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14. Yes, now that's depressing and pointless. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:43 PM
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8. This bill not about helping doctors or patients, only
pharma. companies. Wexler
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:15 PM
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15. 
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:19 PM
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16. Speak okay, But how many of them will back it up
with an actual vote.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:21 PM
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17. And how much will it matter if they all vote for it and no
repugs do?
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:45 PM
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18. Kick. this is important. Call your representatives or lose your rights.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:10 PM
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19. Not looking good: HR5 will probably be passed. nt
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:47 PM
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20. Passed. No official roll call vote to link to yet...but some Dems
As usual, voted for it. Some Republicans voted against it. But it passed.

BIG WIN FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, HMO and Rx!!!!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:57 PM
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21. Won't get through senate
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:07 PM
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22. Really?
Is there a history of the House voting on medmal caps where the Senate votes it down?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:16 PM
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23. Yes, there is.
But Frist will still push for it because it is the holy grail for doctors.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:58 PM
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24. Damn, it's so important this not be blessed; it impacts
everyone and gives the drug companies carte blanche w/o fear of reprisal. I hope Michael Moore is paying close attention, if only to include this in his new documentary.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 06:48 PM
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25. As the bill stands, it is one of the most horrendous
pieces of shiite that is being forced onto us. It basically puts a liability shield in front of all health care providers, drug companies, med equip manufacturers. And it does NOTHING to deal with med mal as an issue. NOTHING. This is another, describe the problem really well, then propose a solution that has nothing to do with the problem, but ends up as a corporate giveaway to the insurance and pharma industries.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:54 PM
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29. Get those Dem's names
Make a list of anti-American Dems and get them replaced by real Americans. Tired of being sold out.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:28 PM
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27. Expect to see a lot of this in the next few days
They'll also take a last minute sneak attack on drastic cuts to Medicaid.

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