If Hillary runs for Prez in '08 - who would you like to see as VP on her

[Bullwinkle925]

ticket?

Too soon for Barack Obama?

[rwheeler31]

1. John Edwards

nt

[Bullwinkle925]

2. Good choice.

Do you think he has a chance? Or has he been 'tainted' by the '04 debacle?

[The Doctor.]

10. He creamed Cheney...

I have to wonder who they'd want to position opposite him on the ticket.

I do believe Hillary has a chance. And technically Bill could run as VP.

:party:

[Bullwinkle925]

25. I had thought of that as well.

[Yupster]

32. Technically, I don't think Bill could run for VP

Check out the last sentence of the Twelfth Amendment.

[1932]

47. I believe Bill is not technically (or otherwise) elligible to be VP

I believe the constitutions says that the person who is VP has to be elligible to be President, ie, that person must meet age, state cititizenship (can't be same as President), country of birth (must be US or US territory) and all other requirements INCLUDING not being precluded by the term limit amendment to the constitution.

[Road Scholar]

64. Very good choice!!!!!

The only thing they could come up with about Edwards, was that he is a lawyer. How stupid is that? He would be a great back up for Clinton then after she serves eight years, a perfect candidate for Prez himself.
Oh by the way, he made Chainey look like what he was.

[MissMarple]

3. Yes. Too soon.

And I don't really want Hillary to run in '08. We should concentrate on taking back the House and the Senate. IMHO.

[liberaliraqvet26]

4. Good ol' General Clark!!!

[MissMarple]

6. For prez.

:)

[goclark]

57. Hilliary and the General!

[HockeyMom]

5. Just on Ebay

They are now selling Hillary/Obama 2008 tshirts.

[Bullwinkle925]

13. Really? Interesting. I was thinking about this last night - would

certainly make history. First Female and African-American. Not to mention that they are both intelligent and qualified.

[Clark2008]

34. Yeah! A solid losing ticket

Just what I always wanted. :sarcasm:

Dems - please understand that the rest of the country is simply not as enlightened and play a real game.

PLEASE!

[Bullwinkle925]

42. You're correct.

I keep thinking of the huge red part of the country (between coasts) and know that Hillary will not fly with them.
Do you have candidates in mind that you would like to see run in '08?

[Clark2008]

73. Well, Clark, of course (look at my user name).

Because I think that, while he is a liberal, he's still considered a moderate by many moderate swing voters because of his military background, which will also come in useful after ShrubCo. gets us into another war (and he will). I think the voters would appreciate someone with solid foreign policy and national security experience.

Also, I like Mark Warner of Virginia, but I'm a bit disturbed that he went to Bilderberg. I can't stand that group; however, I think he could flip a few red states and he's better than any Republican.

I still hold out a little hope for Al Gore, too, but that may be a pipe dream. My own governor, Phil Bredesen, might do well, but I'd hate to lose him as governor.

My list is short, but, in all honesty, I don't see too many people outside of Clark who could both flip a couple of red states and who has tons of foreign policy experience (which will still be the big issue in 2008 - Dems already win on domestic issues).

[AntiCoup2K4]

7. Santa Claus

Hell, if you're gonna dream, might as well do it up right.

[havocmom]

8. Jesus Christ

would be the only hope

No Senators. Doesn't play well, too much baggage, too much voting record to twist. And we need to keep all of them we have anyway.

edit for clarity

[OneTwentyoNine]

9. Terry Randall

Since she sold out and said she can find "common ground" with anti-abortion kooks and fanatics like Operation Rescue her and Terry could run together.

[napi21]

11. Right now, my choice would be Warner of Va.

It's very early, and my worst fear is that the Dem candidates will tear each other apart so badly in the Primary, they'll hurt the winner in Nov.

Also, my biggest HOPE is that the Pubs will tear each other to shreds in thier primary too!

I' hven't seem much of Warner, but I liked what I've seen so far. He would be my choice now, but it is extremely early!

[bemildred]

12. Barney the purple DINOsaur. nt

[Bullwinkle925]

14. There you go - but if they play his signature jingle I'll scream!!!!!!

:crazy:

[LiberalVoice]

15. How about "Denver the last Dinosaur"?

He's cool as shit.

[Bullwinkle925]

24. Sorry, don't know this one??

[Skwmom]

16. The public will not elect Hillary Commander-In-Chief

so who cares who the VP is.

[Bullwinkle925]

19. Are you one of them who wouldn't?

I am on the fence regarding this. I would love to finally see a woman in the White House and not just as First Lady. I am not hugely fond of Hillary, but I don't know her personally so who am I to judge?
I wonder if all the mud-slinging regarding Hillary has indeed colored my views and thinking about her.
What are your thoughts?

[azoth]

30. I agree...

I don't think that the public at large would vote for a woman.

The general population - read: the centrists and mid-liners and libertarians and regretful repugs I know - doesn't seem evolved enough to vote for *any* woman I can think of. (well, OK maybe Oprah...)

I think Hilary got too much bad press with the universal healthcare thing and any other little thing people might want to carry over from her tenure as First Lady. I bet the folks who might be fence-sitters in the next presidential election wouldn't be as likely to swing her way as they might if the Dems offered up a male candidate.

Damn I hate to say that, given that I'm a woman my own self, but imo it's true.

[Bullwinkle925]

39. I know how you feel.

As a woman myself, I am racking my brains to think of a woman whom I would like to see run for the Presidency in '08. Hillary is not my first choice only because I think there are too many people in 'Middle America' who hate her and will not vote for her. I think it would not do the Democrats well if they ran her, but then I wonder (as I said before) if my feelings are due largely to what the media has been saying all along. Then I kick myself for buying into it. If she is the candidate, however, I certainly will vote for her.
I wouldn't mind seeing either Barbara Lee or Sheila Jackson-Lee or Barbara Boxer. Don't know if any of them have aspirations, though.

[Clark2008]

36. I wouldn't vote

I mean, First vs. Hillary?

Like that has a chance in hell of changing my red state.

Give me red meat to change my red state. Soy ain't gonna do it.

[bullimiami]

17. a vp that was a good deal more liberal would be nice.

[DanCa]

18. General Clark

That would be one of the ways to crack the south and the military vote. It might even draw a liberterian or two that I know.

[Adelante]

20. Clark never made sense to me

As VP to any Senator. We'd have a commander-in-chief presiding over the Senate and a Senator as commander-in-chief.

[DanCa]

22. Why I like the General.

Clark was the ultimate outsider with a military track record. I also do think it's important for us to have a candidate to have seen actual military combat. Not like the chimp, who was deserter, but a five star general. Heck maybe it's because I like playing the patriotism card for a change :D

Seriously though clark is a tough as nails, peace candidate, and a west point graduate. What the final sale for me was when i was watching the road to the white during the campaign clark carried on an actual improptu conversation in spanish. Wes clark wouldve been kerry with out the voting record paper trail. The man is simply awesome.

[howmad1]

26. General Clark for prez and.............

......Jon Stewart for VP! Now that's an unbeatable ticket. If ronny regan and ahnuuld can run, why not Jon Stewart?:9

[Sparkly]

28. Good point!

:hi:

[Barrymores Ghost]

21. Tom Harkin of Iowa, or Mel Carnahan of Missouri

After all, Mel's fetid corpse beat Ashcroft for the Missouri senate race - I'm sure he could take on Cheney, after seeing little Dick's performance against Edwards last year.

[SaveElmer]

23. It's not if...it's when...she will win!

And her VP should be a westerner....

Schweitzer perhaps, maybe Richardson..

[ladjf]

27. We need to look elsewhere for our Democratic candidates.

Mr. and Mrs. Clinton have personal agendas that are not in line with the best interests of America and Americans. (My opinion)

[zulchzulu]

29. Chris Rock

At least it would be funny watching the Democrats lose by 10% if Hillary was the nominee.

Chris could just joke about how bad we were going to get our ass kicked...and we could at least laugh about the impending nightware.

I fear the Hillary possibility. It's too important to ACTUALLY win and not appease the Clintons' egos.

[Yupster]

31. Bill Richardson

That's my guess as to who she picks.

He's a minority from a close state, well respected and has worked for the Clinton's in a ouple different jobs already.

[djg21]

33. If Hil runs, it won't matter.

You can expect another 4 years of republican bullshit.

Is there any more of a way that the Democratic party can shoot itself in the foot. Maybe we can run a ticket of Sadaam and Ralph Nader?

[norml]

35. Easter Bunny

The Bunny will be more likely to run for President than Hillary.

In other words, she's not running for President, she never has.

[Placebo]

37. It's going to be tricky, because it has to be someone...

who won't upstage her when it comes to political experience. I'd say Bayh or Gov. Warner of Virginia, but they've both been governors and she hasn't, and Bayh has even been in the senate longer than her.

Hmm, I'm not sure. But I'm sure her advisors have been giving it a lot of thought for some time now.

In any event:

:) Hillary '08 :patriot:

[bunny planet]

38. Wesley Clark

[snowbear]

40. yeah baby!

:toast:

[snowbear]

41. Oh wait.. that's Wesley Clark without the Hillary part...

Hillary:

Senate? YES!
Democratic President? NO!

[bunny planet]

43. I just answered the OP's question. I really don't want Hillary to run

either, but if she was nominated, I'd vote for her, and hope that she had Clark as her VP. Edwards would be a good choice too.

I'd really like to see Kerry/Clark or Kerry/Boxer. Call me crazy, I don't care. The man was robbed, and although he made some mistakes (who doesn't) I still think he'd make a great president.

[CJCRANE]

53. Kerry/Clark would've been good for '04.

Clark would've been a good counterweight to "the grown-ups are in charge" Cheney.

[Clark2008]

77. Yeah Bunny!!

KOEB and Clarkie "sisters!"

:hug:

[wli]

44. forget Hillary, Clark has the military credentials

I'm sick of the draft dodgers with half-cocked world domination plots flushing trillions down the toilet in deathtraps of their own devising.

If there's going to be gunplay, I at least want a competent commander-in-chief coordinating it.

The point is BushCo FAILED UTTERLY in Iraq and Afghanistan. If it was about oil, he failed. If it was about terrorism, he failed. If it was about democracy, he failed. Literally the only "success" was reestablishing the opium trade, and that can't be talked about, can it?

Put up a real general for president and you've got some kind of prayer of getting damage control over the major geopolitical fiasco going on. And that's going to sell to the corporate interests who have the dollar collapse hanging over them like a sword of Damocles and anyone and everyone among the common people who are universally appalled by what's being done to Iraqis and by their loved ones coming home disfigured and mutilated en masse (not to mention the dead).

[Contrary1]

45. Big Dog...

just to piss off the Freepers.

[phylla]

46. I predict Mark Warner will be the VP for ANY Dem. nominee

[pengu1n]

48. Deputy Dawg

Hillary should have someone who is closely in step with her political views.

I would suggest Dick Cheney.

Or Adolf Hitler.

Or anyone else from the DLC.

[Hippo_Tron]

49. My prediction: It will be Joe Lieberman

The two seem to get along very well.

[AntiCoup2K4]

50. Can we PLEASE stop discussing which neocon warpig is an acceptable nominee

NONE of them are.

Not a single DLC'er not any last one of these traitorous fucking pieces of shit.

I want them out of my party and out of my country, and I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEM.

[Douglas Carpenter]

51. Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer--whoever wins the Presidential nomination

A western-populist progressive-

here is a link to a great Daily Kos article about him:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/10/141211/98

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http://www.iwtnews.com/

[Douglas Carpenter]

52. actually--this is a better article about Gov. Brian Schweitzer

Here is the link:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0412.sirota.html

[FreeStateDemocrat]

54. John McCain since that would the only way she could even hope to win.

[JNelson6563]

55. Someone a little less self-serving than she

and yes! Too soon for Barack. He hasn't really even auditioned his spine yet.

Julie

[Pepperbelly]

56. bullshit ... ALL politicans are self serving ...

It is axiomatic.

[JNelson6563]

59. In varying degrees

For instance, surely you don't count Russ Fiengold as in the same league as Hillary.....

Julie

[Pepperbelly]

60. why not?

He does what he does because it plays in Wisconsin. I suppose that he really believes in his positions although I really don't have any way of knowing.

It is axiomatic.

Pols serve their own interests. If those coincide with their constituents views, so much the better.

[Name removed]

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[leesa]

58. Has she stated that the war was wrong and illegal yet? If not, don't

want anything to do with her, and certainly not Obama.

[yourout]

61. Wont matter.....because if Hillary is the Dems choice we are all..........

SCREWED!!!

[fujiyama]

62. Why not her fellow video game crusader

Jack Thompson?

But in all seriousness, I think she'd be a disaster. It's not necessarily her politcs or gender that's the problem. I don't think either are what pose her main problem.

It's that she's been defined by the media already. She's looked at as some sort of far left feminist type by many, even though she seems even more conservative than her husband. It's hard to break out of that mold.

Plus there's something about her (and Joe Biden as well) that I see, which makes me think that everything they're doing, they do for politics. I sense no sincerety whatsoever. No real set convictions.

I'd vote for her, but definetely not in the primaries...and it'd be a "hold your nose and vote almost to the point you pass out" kind of vote.

Another thing no one has made clear is which states she would win that Kerry lost.

[Kahuna]

63. Wes Clark or John Warner. They are my top guys...

Hillary is just beneath them. But not by much.

[dolstein]

68. You mean Mark Warner

John Warner is the senior Republican senator from Virginia.

[NancyG]

66. First choice Clark

Obama would be interesting.
Hell, I'd accept Biden; he's a great attack dog when he's not telling Gonzales how much he really likes him.

[rexcat]

67. The Big Dog...

or John Edwards.

[election_2004]

69. It's really a moot point....

Because there's no way I would give one iota of support to a Democratic ticket with Hillary Clinton on it.

She's just too opportunistic...and before you chant the mantra "but all politicians are opportunistic"....what credentials (besides being a former First Lady) make Hillary a better choice than any other Democrat who could run?

[Imagevision]

70. I hope Hillary doesn't win DEm nomination for 08

[Imagevision]

71. I would choose Boxer over Hillary in a new york minute!!!!

[Imagevision]

72. Clintons have become too dramatic and theatrical - phonies!

[Finder]

74. Clark or Dean

With preference for Clark even know I am a Deaniac.

[Cha]

75. So, who is running for hillary's

senate seat in 2006?

If she's running for prez..she'll need that time to prepare and campaign..she won't be running for senator from New York and then announce her candidacy, will she?

[election_2004]

76. That seems to be the "assumption"....

Pundits seem to be assuming that Hillary will be easily reelected to her U.S. Senate seat in 2006 over Republican Ed Cox, and then Hillary will begin to fund an "exploratory committee" for a presidential run in 2008.

Of course, if they cared about doing what was best for the country, they wouldn't be trying to handicap the Democratic nomination in Hillary's favor.

Lincoln/Warner 2008!!!

http://www.lincoln2008.com