John Kerry Whacks Santorum on Boston “Liberalism” Comments

[kerrygoddess]

John Kerry Whacks Santorum on Boston “Liberalism” Comments
13 July 2005



Rick Santorum recently took some swipes at Boston “liberalism” that have Massachusetts residents seeing RED.

Here is a whack from John Kerry to Rick Santorum, demanding an apology for Massachusetts residents:

"The families of Massachusetts soldiers who have given their lives for their country in Iraq know more about the mainstream American values of Massachusetts than Rick Santorum ever will.

As a prosecutor in Massachusetts putting criminals behind bars, I saw some of the worst criminals who had abused children and not once did I hear them hide behind Sen. Santorum's bizarre claim that the state was responsible for their acts.

Rick Santorum owes an apology to the families of abuse victims and an apology to the faithful who fill the pews of Massachusetts churches every Sunday." -- Senator John Kerry

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[Gato Moteado]

1. and kerry added: if he doesn't apologize.....

....i will rip off his arm and beat him with it.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Good one!!

[prodigal_green]

3. They hate us for our

founding the nation. OK, Santorum is from one of the original colonies, but I swear, the man is an anomoly. What an ass.

[Ian David]

4. It rings hollow to me from Kerry after he dis-avowed the state platform

Remember when the Mass. Dem party passed a pro-gay-marriage platform, and Kerry leaped up and said that the extreme-left had hijacked it, or something to that effect?

I'm sorry, I would still vote for Kerry, but he hasn't been a "hero" to me in a long, long time.

[blm]

11. That's NOT what happened. He was at a healthcare townhall in Louisiana

when he was asked about gay marriage by a reporter afterwards and Kerry replied that he didn't THINK it should be part of the platform YET, as he didn't believe there was a general consensus YET for it by most Democratic voters in Massachusetts. That's all.

It was spun into a Kerry hates gays whirlygig by those interested in seeing it happen.

[TayTay]

12. Excuse me? I was at that Convention and nothing of the sort

happened. The Boston Globe had a hissy fit and sent a reporter out to try and figure out why any Senator from Massachusetts would ever go to the hinterlands of Louisiana to give a speech on children and health care coverage. (To the best of their knowledge, Sen. Kerry is not now running for Pres, so what in Gawd's name was he doing going to other states? )

The Globe reporter listened for a while to the nice speech, talked to the nice people who showed up for the nice speech and noted that some of those people were even passionate about getting health care for kids. (Are you with me so far?)

Then the reporter asked if the Massachusetts State Democratic Convention should approve a plank in the Party Platform that explicitly endorsed Gay Marriage. He said no, but that he wouldn't do anything about it. He disagreed that the majority of MA Dems (or national Dems) agreed with making gay marriage legal.

From the Boston Globe: May 6, 2005

"Kerry, who opposes same-sex marriage but supports civil unions, said in an interview with the Globe that he would prefer that the party not mention gay marriage in its platform, because Democrats continue to disagree on how to handle the issue.

"I'm opposed to it being in a platform. I think it's a mistake," Kerry said shortly after hosting a forum on his universal children's healthcare bill in Baton Rouge. "I think it's the wrong thing, and I'm not sure it reflects the broad view of the Democratic Party in our state."

Some analysts believe that the same-sex marriage issue contributed to Kerry's loss to President Bush in last year's presidential campaign. Kerry's position puts him at odds with the state Democratic Party chairman and his fellow Bay State senator, Edward M. Kennedy, who is scheduled to address the party convention next weekend.

Kerry said he does not plan to attend this year's state Democratic convention or to lobby against the same-sex marriage plank. He said he has not been closely monitoring debate over the state party platform.

Ahm, I think the Jr. Senator from MA had an objection to the inclusion of the issue in the state platform. (Oh, and btw, I yelled 'Aye' real loud when the plank came up for a floor vote.)

[LittleClarkie]

19. Mind if I interject a few facts

Kerry was in Louisiana on a tour for the Kids First Act. He was interviewed by the Globe while he was down there. In response to one of their questions, he said that he wasn't comfortable with that part of the platform, in part because he didn't think the Party as a whole had agreed on how they were dealing with the issue of gay marriage.

His position all through the campaign was much like the rest of the field. As a Catholic, he prefers civil unions with benefits, without adding the religious connotations that marriage brings. However, he has been to a few gay weddings. I don't know what that says, except that probably a friend is a friend, regardless of how he might feel about gay marriage.

It was not a spontaneous leaping up and saying "Oh, and by the way, gays shouldn't get married." It was a response to a question from the Globe. And it was consistent with what he's always said was his position. As I told others who were upset because of it, if people didn't know that about him, and it makes that big a difference to how they feel about him, then they shouldn't have voted for him. But then, they would have had few people to vote for this last year, as most of them had the same stance.

I don't remember the far left hyjacking part. I can go back and check to make sure. Doesn't sound familar though.

I don't know if he's my hero. I do rather like him though. And he reminds me of my dad. They were both Navy. So maybe in that sense, I do have some of those feelings.

Nevertheless, it's good to see him move closer to Teresa's opinion of ol' Ricky, which is that he's Forrest Gump with an attitude. She doesn't like him because of some things he said about her late husband, even though Kerry tried to convince her that Ricky'd changed.

Maybe he's seeing now that Ricky HASN'T changed.

[Ian David]

20. My apologies and I stand corrected. n/t

[LittleClarkie]

21. No worries

Despite what some might think, I don't think he's perfect and of course folks have every right to criticize where they see fit. I'm just here to make sure that people have the facts. The Globe likes to do that to Kerry, ask him loaded questions and such. They have such a weird relationship. Sometimes you get better stories about him from the Herald, right wing rag though they may be. Of course, for some reason, they lean toward fluff and entertainment, kind of like Fox News. He has a new terrier puppy names Stache, for instance.

[Ian David]

22. Well, I don't think any of our papers will be endorsing Romney...

Romney said that people should stop reading their newspapers on the train and start warily observing the other passengers to see if they might be terrorists.

[LittleClarkie]

23. You're a Masshole?! What am I doing lecturing you on your papers then?

Can I borrow your stupid sign?

[livetohike]

5. It's time for the Senate to rebuke Santorum

whatever is involved in that. He is a miserable example of representation for the people.

Edit: can't spell

[Hippo_Tron]

27. How about we just beat him in the next election, which is going to happen

Virginia isn't going to have a third senator for much longer.

[livetohike]

40. He shouldn't be hard to beat after all controversy he is

stirring up. :-)

[Ian David]

6. Then why is it Catholic priests, and not The ACLU raping little boys?

Just Rick Spreading Santorum again.

[CWebster]

7. His usual war mongering spiel

"...who have given their lives for their country"

Does he know any other tune than the war hero theme song? It is grossly inappropriate in these dark times and serves only as an obstacle for those trying to make the highly moral case of what a crime this invasion was--and still is.

[kerrygoddess]

8. lighten up - Kerry supports the troops and

many of them from MA are Catholics.

[CWebster]

9. Not a chance I'm gonna drink from your I-luv-Kerry koolaid

He isn't supporting the troops by advocating their mission as a heroic undertaking. A moral issue perhaps that shouldn't be lost on anyone--Catholics included.

[TayTay]

14. How about 'I luv Kerry' Hot Chocolate and Oatmeal Cookies

They are really good. The secret chips embedded in them go down real good. Next thing you know, you have this urge to talk in complete sentences, make speeches that note that people in the state that elected you sometimes serve honorably in the military and ahm, perfect hair. (Okay, that last one is not guaranteed, but it COULd happen.)

[kerrygoddess]

16. Kerry Oatmeal Cookies!

Yeah!

[kerrygoddess]

15. Having the where withall

to stay and fight an unjust war takes a whole fucking lot of courage actually! That's something that John Kerry gets.

Whether they are they fro the right reason or the wrong reason, most of those kids didn't sign up for this war and furthermore those from MA have families in MA who are troubled enough that their kids are over there dieing for an unjust war.

Kerry wasn't speaking for you, he was speaking for the citizens of MA including those who have loved ones serving in Iraq.

If you can't show respect for his defense of those hurt by Santorum's statements then don't say anything.

[LittleClarkie]

25. I don't need you to "luv" Kerry

If only I could get you to go steady with the truth, you shameless hussy.

[blm]

13. Dems are dogpiling on Santorum to get RID of him, and YOU attack Kerry

as usual.

Guess you can't stop drinking your own brand of bitter antiKerry kool-aid you seem to enjoy so much.

At least Santorum will be grateful that you responded to Kerry's attack on him by attacking Kerry.

[Mass]

18. Sometimes, I wonder what is the goal of some DUers.

[LittleClarkie]

33. And like Bush and Bolton

folks like him seek only the facts that will support their point of view. If necessary, they'll knit them together and blow them up, just so they can point to them and say "See, I told you."

[politicasista]

17. Yawn

:boring:

[LittleClarkie]

24. Not a vet, huh?

Or are you. I don't want to be Our Lady of the Assumption here.

[Hippo_Tron]

28. You know what, even if all of that is true about Kerry...

The focus of this is on the biggest douche bag in the US Senate, Santorum. Can't we all just focus our negative energy where it belongs?

[LittleClarkie]

34. Nah,

Democrats... it's what's for dinner.

[Mass]

10. Good, now our two senators have answered.

+ a number of representatives.

[kerrygoddess]

26. Kennedy Calls on Santorum to Apologize

Kennedy Calls on Santorum to Apologize
13 July 2005


Earlier today I posted a statement from John Kerry on Santorum’s base, outrageous comments on “Boston Liberalism.”

While, John Kerry whacked Santorum with his statement, Ted Kennedy had Santorum up against the wall with his statement on the Senate floor…

"Rick Santorum owes an immediate apology to the tragic, long-suffering victims of sexual abuse and their families in Boston, in Massachusetts, in Pennsylvania and around this country. His outrageous and offensive comments – which he had the indecency to repeat yesterday – blamed the people of Boston for the depraved behavior of sick individuals who stole the innocence of children in the most horrible way imaginable.

Senator Santorum has shown a deep and callous insensitivity to the victims and their suffering in an apparent attempt to score political points with some of the most extreme members of the fringe right wing of his Party. Boston bashing might be in vogue with some Republicans, but Rick Santorum’s statements are beyond the pale.

Three years ago, Senator Santorum said “While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.” When given an opportunity to apologize yesterday, he refused and instead restated these outrageous statements. The people of Boston are to blame for the clergy sexual abuse? That statement is irresponsible, insensitive and inexcusable. Rick Santorum should join all Americans in celebrating the accomplishments of the people of Boston.

Apparently Senator Santorum has never heard of the enormous contributions of our universities and industries to our quality of life, our economic strength, and our national security."

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[patrioticliberal]

yay Kerry

Great to hear that.

But what are you doing on DSM, again? LOL

[Mass]

31. Well, he did something

which is more than most Senators did.

[politicasista]

36. Amen Mass

[liberalpragmatist]

39. HERE'S what he did on DSM - (Article from The Hill)

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/071405/kerry.html

[Bake]

29. Wow. And it only took him what, two weeks, to respond?

JK and the rest of the Dems should have been all over Prick Santorum the SAME DAY. Instant response. That's what it takes these days.

Ricky Boy had two weeks of free ride for his outrageous remarks to sink in. There's no excuse for that.

Bake

[Mass]

30. Why 2 weeks?

This was published in the Boston Globe yesterday.

Kennedy and Kerry answered today, after a quick answer yesterday from their staff.

We are still waiting to hear from Romney though (other that some vagues platitudes).

[GoneOffShore]

32. Apocryphal anecdote

When Santorum was first elected to the Senate, someone said to Kerry, when they saw Ricky walking down the hallway, "That's Rick Santorum, the freshman Senator from Pennsylvania."
Kerry replied, "Santorum - that's Latin for 'asshole'."

http://www.spreadingsantorum.com

[Mass]

35. Not him, Bob Kerrey, I think,,,

[GoneOffShore]

38. Thank you

I stand corrected.
But at least someone said it.
I'm ashamed that he's from PA, because he certainly doesn't represent me or anyone I know.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

37. Hanging my head in shame

You know what the BEST apology we Pennsylvania residents can give to Boston (and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts): DEFEAT SANTORUM in 06!!! What an embarrassing idiot.

:grr: