Right Wingers Are Scared to Death of Dean By Rob Kall

[Polemonium]

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Assuming that Karl Rove lies at least as much as George Bush, and that he's coached his right wing sycophants in the congress and senate and in that ugly echo chamber they've spent billions to build-- Howard Dean is the man they fear the most, since he's the one they've attacked the most.
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"Dean is able to rouse people, to get people involved in politics who have never been involved, or who haven't been involved for a long time. Neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party establishment wants that kind of challenge to their power structure.”
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Why would the Bush team fear this Northeastern Governor of a tiny state? Because, outside of Dennis Kucinich, he's the only one who has had the guts to step out of the staid, "correct" political role and persona and attack Bush for being a failure and liar. He's shown that he could mobilize the anti-bush vote in a phenomenal way.
http://www.opednews.com/kall_0104_rove_fears_Dean.htm

My 2 cents. Dean continues to get more small donations than any candidate (over $315,000 in the last 24 hours). This kind of grass roots support could transform the Democratic Party. Imagine if the Democratic Party did not need to rely on corporate money to compete with the Rethugs. Imagine a couple million grassroots supporters becoming active in the Democratic Party. The platform would move toward more populist ideas (crazy stuff like better health care, and affordable quality education). And with a fired up active base you'd finally have the teeth to make some of these things a reality. Howard Dean has inspired hope, and he is our best chance to change the way the executive governs.

http://www.switch2dean.com/

[jpgray]

1. So sick of the "Rove is afraid of (blank)"

Listen to any candidates' supporters, guess who Rove is afraid of? I support Dean, but anyone who says "Rove is afraid of (blank)!!!!" is irritating to me. Let's have the Democrats vote, and not be so concerned what Rove is up to.

[cavebat2000]

2. See

to some people that could mean electability, which seems to be a huge factor is this debate. I do agree with you though.

[jpgray]

4. But so often it's just bullshit navel-gazing

I could make that argument for anyone.

"Rove is afraid of Sharpton because the media is totally ignoring him!!!", or "Rove is afraid of Lieberman because Democrats are being steered away from him by a media conspiracy!!!" You can do it for any candidate. Nothing against the candidates I used as examples, but it's just to prove my point. :)

That said, I think Dean is electable, otherwise I wouldn't support him.

[lancdem]

11. I agree wholeheartedly

I don't give a rat's ass whom Rove is afraid of.

[molly]

3. We are alll scared to death of Dean

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[Polemonium]

7. No more people support Dean than any candidate

By support, I mean more people are donating and are actively doing things to help his campaign.


Corporate interests are afraid of Dean. Corporate special interests can definitely live with Kerry though.

[molly]

23. Corporate interests are afraid of all DEM candidates

= all those involved in BCCI - etc. If HD would just unseal his papers, then they could see that he had "no Corporate special interests" - which BTW we all know he DID INDEED have.

[Abigail147]

13. Kerry Supporters should fear Dean.

Howard Dean inspires and uses his own material.

[Bombtrack]

5. Who the heck is Rob Kall

cause he seems to be doing nothing more than regurgitating moronic Dean talking points

No new original or maverick thought, just Bashing and disrespecting Dean's opponents which is the central theme of his campaign

[Polemonium]

8. You obviously didn't read the article

But it's always nice to have folks marginalize the biggest grassroots movement the Democrats have seen in over 30 years.

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[Polemonium]

Again we marginalize the grassroots

The grassroots are people like me, my family and friends, and lot's of people I don't agree with on many things. The people in theory are the fuel of Democracy, but hey we don't want to get the people involved again. That would be just terrible. You can compare Dean to McGovern if you like, but I was thinking that the hope he inspires is more like what we saw during JFK's run. Dean's platform would be best compared to Truman. In truth though Dean is his own person, and while you can compare him to whom ever you like, ultimately he is fairly unique. Take some time to get to know Howard Dean. http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040112fa_fact

[Bombtrack]

18. jfk was elected 43 years ago

so that dodge doesn't really work.

I consider myself to be working at the grassroots level for both Clark and Edwards, and it's become more and more clear that most Dean supporters are to arrogant about there own candidates campaign that they'll never admit that the others have grassroots campaigns as well. Clark was drafted, Dean has been running for 3 years.

[Polemonium]

27. Great and if the grassroots support for other candidates

begins to approach the 600,000+ for Dean, I assure you I will take a much harder look at those candidates.

[salin]

19. now that description reads to be a bit over the top.

hostile not only to the candidate - but very hostile and condescending to the supporters.

[Abigail147]

14. It's great to see real democracy in play, isn't it?

Iowa was hardly representative of the rest of the country. When there are no back room deals and good old boys dictating our candidates, we will know we have arrived and we really do have our country back.

[HuskerDem]

9. Yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhuuuuu

They tremble in their knickers, I am sure.

With Bushes poll numbers, they shouldn't write off any of the candidates though.

[patricia92243]

12. YES! YES! YES! This is what I've been saying. They want Kerry, Edwards

or anybody else to win the nomination because THEY KNOW THEY CAN AND WILL BEAT THEM IN THE GE.

They are scared to death that Dean could actually win - thus why they are beating up on him.

Unfortunately for our nation, they may have succeeded - which means four more years of Bush.

[Abigail147]

17. Yes, yes, yes!!!!!

You are talking my talk. You damn right they are afraid of Dean. We need this man because he has the backbone the others forget about and he doesn't put us to sleep with his niceness. Think of who we are going up against. Dean can go toe to toe with Rove and still maintain his integrity. The others had their chance and they just rolled.

[cthrumatrix]

15. the more they here the Dean message on issues...the more people

will move to Dean....he is right on.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

16. No. Dean suggested we would not always have the strongest military

And doubting the continued superiority of our military is a guaranteed candidate disqualifier in the eyes of most Americans looking for Presidential material.

[Polemonium]

20. First, What the hell are you talking about Second

If your right and Dean is saying things that would disqualify him from consideration by the American people. Then why are more people actively supporting Howard Dean than any other candidate. Why in the last 23 hours have the grassroots raised another $322,000+. Your language is the language of fear and the language of pundits.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

24. Time Magazine, April 28, 2003

Quote: "We won't always have the strongest military" (Time, April 28, 2003).

http://slate.msn.com/id/2088896/

[cthrumatrix]

21. sure we can spend oursleves into bankrutcy...by having spent more

on denfense than the next 20 countries combined.

Do the math on China's numbers...and potential...years from now..they will have the largest military..plus if we keep spending $$$$$$$ we will find the hole deeper

Howard said today he was for a strong military...

[wheresthemind]

22. I thought Iowa proved his new kinda campaign...

or Dean revolution did not really work.

[Polemonium]

25. I think it only proved that Iowa voters were taken aback

Gephart and Dean had the most people on the ground, and they seemed to loose ground because of it. People in Iowa did not want to be badgered and it appears that enthusiastic out of state supporters may have turned some people off. It is, however, far to early to say the Dean revolution won't work. Dean and his supporters have forced the level of dialogue in this nomination race, and this compaign is reminding us all that democracy doesn't have to resemble the top down corporate approach.

[fabius]

26. Rove is afraid of ...

Dean, Kerry, Clark, and Edwards. He's not afraid if Lieberman I bet. Any of these four can beat Bush, with a well-run campaign and sufficient financing.

The things about Howard Dean that impressed me to start with were (1) he speaks the truth about the BFEE and (2)has a method to raise the money.

Now it looks all our top four are talking the talk that the country needs to hear. That's good. I think Dean's success has pushed them all to be more outspoken and has made this race the most exciting in years. On the cable news it's been all primary all the time. This has got to be a good thing.

NH and a lot of Feb 3 states are swing states, and we'll see who appeals best to people in those states. This is the test. I know Dean appeals strongly to people in OR and WA. We'll find out.

Regardless of the outcome the Democratic Party needs to make maximum use of the "netroots" phenomenon used by Dean and Clark. This is the biggest winner for us in the whole campaign. If we can compete with the Repubs on money, they'll have to consider real campaign finance reform.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

28. They are afraid of keeping the military budget and NAFTA?

Keeping the profit in health insurance?

Who knew?!

:shrug:

[Anwen]

29. It's obvious!

Rove says wants Dean. Rove is a lying rat bastard. Therefore, Rove fears Dean.

[Tesha]

30. Dean is supported across the spectrum; bad news for Bush! (NT)

[John_H]

31. LOL! Yeah, right. Too bad Rove doesn't have to fear might Dean any more.

[cthrumatrix]

32. he's back...within 3 pts of Kerry today in NH.....and he's going to all

50 states...