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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 07:48 AM
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Republicans do not indulge in "politics" - only Democrats...
They will tell you that you are going after these DSM documents and going after Karl Rove because you hate George Bush. Youy hate your country because you criticize the "president" while we are at war. Democrats play "politics" with everything.

Meanwhile, they support George W Bush 100% and they trust him to do the right thing. So, you see that they believe whatever their Party tells them - even if it contradicts all facts. So what if Saddam didn't have WMDs. The Iraqi people deserve to be "free" just like us. The truth is nobody plays "politics" like the Republicans. Everything is political to them.

It's as plain as the nose on their face, but they can't see it. But it is just as "political" to defend your Party when they are wrong as it is for the opposition to criticize your "Party" no matter what they do, right or wrong. The truth is that Republicans play "politics" with everything. They always accuse the other Party of whatever they are guilty of doing themselves.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 07:49 AM
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1. They act more like a cult than a political party.
Long live Jesus W. Bush!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 07:51 AM
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2. This is another point that
the dems should be saying over and over. But they don't. If they would all just get on message it would be obvious.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:03 AM
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3. your title is the funniest statement ever.....
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 08:03 AM by Wetzelbill
I have actually have read letters to the editor in our local paper during last year's election about how the Left-Wing Attack Machine wouldn't leave Bush alone and stick to the issues. I wish there was a Left-Wing Attack Machine. It'd be nice.

You're right. Republicans don't just play politics, they play dirty pool. Stack the deck. Rig the game. Whatever you want to call it. Whether it's outing Plame, siccing the SwiftBoat Liars on Kerry, or exploiting 9/11, they have a political agenda for everything. And a immoral one at that.

Republicans support Bush 100 percent, because winning in politics means more to them than doing doing what is right. It's more important to give out tax cuts to rich fat white guys who donate money to their campaigns than it is to use it to make health care affordable or something viable. They have a narrow-minded view of the world so it's easy to be discliplined and jump on board. And, woe is me, to anybody who dares to think for themselves, because Republicans eat their own. Chuck Hagel points out the obvious, that Bush F'ed up, and you would have thought he committed a mortal sin or something. Now he's a Conservative senator with a Conservative record, but because he's right and didn't drink the Kool-Aid, all of a sudden he's a "librul."

Everything is politics to them and they are always the victims, too. That's the new Republican party right there. Vicious whining slimeballs. They get away with murder and cry cuz the "Liberal Media" is asking if they have ever jaywalked before.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:12 AM
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4. and they all have the same look about
Big white angry men.
And the Republican women, man, their faces !! ahhhahahahahahaha
Karen, Babe, Ms. Harris, Barbra,Mary Matlin......
A plethora of beauty!!!!
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:22 AM
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6. Wetzelbill, your point about Repubs having a "victim"
mentality is well taken. I always find it funny that they're such crybabies about Dems being out to "get" them with the "liberal media" (I wish someone could show me this "liberal media", because outside of AAR and a very few brave journalists, I'm not seeing it). What they're really angry about is that someone, anyone, is standing up and telling the truth about the Dumbass. Criticism of the Shrub conflicts with their view of him as being appointed by God, and they not only don't want to hear it, they want to stop anyone who disagrees from being able to say it.

Because, you know, the first amendment only applies to Republicans...
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:37 AM
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7. If the media was so liberal why did CNN, the Times and The Post all shill
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 08:48 AM by Wetzelbill
for the war in Iraq. Scott Ritter was being swept under the rug by the MSM so much that it took an unknown Massachusetts schoolteacher to write a book so that he could be heard. And, how accurate did that turn out to be? Two years later, everybody was still sniffing around for WMD. The only victims of the media nowadays are the American people who being left sitting in the wind, deaf, dumb and blind. You don't know shit if you rely on MSM to tell you the story.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:40 AM
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8. Who was that "unknown Massachusetts schoolteacher..."??
Just for those readers that may have come to DU as of late ? :)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:41 AM
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10. some clown named William Rivers Pitt
:)
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:57 AM
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11. You're preaching to the choir here,
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 10:00 AM by tenshi816
because I'm in complete agreement with you.

It's funny, it's only within the last couple of years that I emerged from a kind of timewarp (I'm sure there'a better term for it, but it escapes me just now). When I left the US for the UK in 1986, there wasn't RW hate radio as it is now (or if it was there, I never heard any of it, but then at the time I listened mostly to college stations or jazz on my local NPR station).

From 1986 until getting a satellite dish in the UK in 1996, my news came exclusively from UK newspapers ("real" newspapers that is, not tabloids) and the BBC. After getting a satellite dish, I discovered CNN International, which is vastly different from CNN as it is in the States today. I had never heard of FOX and knew nothing about it, and never tuned in to it until I started watching news what seemed like 24/7 after 9/11 - I surfed news stations constantly. When I found FOX, I thought I had landed in some bizarro universe that bore no resemblance to the one I lived in, because the "news" as they reported it was usually completely at odds with what I saw on the BBC or CNN International.

Two years ago I didn't know who Rush Limbaugh, Anne Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and the rest of their evil, deluded little band were. I've seen O'Reilly just twice, once on the Daily Show being interviewed by Jon Stewart, and again a week or so ago when Wes Clark was on with him. I've still never seen or heard Limbaugh or Hannity, and have only seen short clips of that scary blonde Nazi pin-up, Coulter (who I think is the worst of the bunch because I believe she trades on her looks, or tries to).

To sum it up, I spent literally years believing that news in the US was still the unvarnished truth. How very wrong I was, and how sad I was to discover it. Nowadays in addition to sources like the BBC, I have websites like DU (my first port of call on the internet every day), where I find links to many other news sites. I'm the best-informed now that I've ever been in my life. However, my own dear father, who used to have an inquiring mind (even if we didn't always agree with each other) has been swallowed up by FOX news. It breaks my heart.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:09 PM
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14. oh I know I was preaching to the choir
I was just adding on to what you were discussing.

I was sorta politically aware a 4 or 5 years ago. I had a sense of right and wrong, and great compassion, I thought that most people were generally like that. I was relatively naive about hatred and greed. The Wetzelbill of 1999 couldn't conceive that a fool like Bush would ever get elected. I never had much use for Republicans, but I never thought that they were all that bad. I would have never have guessed someone like Coulter existed to the extent and popularity that she does. I mainly thought the party was just for rich people, you know? 9/11 opened up a lot of stuff for me. I was absolutely curious about terrorism and the Middle East. I was quite curious about the particulars of both domestic and foreign policy. I didn't know the differences in ideology of both parties either. Curiousity made me dive into all the info I could. Eventually, I was so in tune with politics that I did some work as an opinions columnist. I was even naive then compared to how I am now. I'm light years more knowledgable, mainly from reading my news and avoiding network and MSM stuff. So yeah, like you, I'm more informed now than ever.

I know what you mean. I have a good friend who thinks Fox is the greatest thing ever. He says stuff so mind blowingly dumb sometimes that I get ashamed of him. I can imagine it does break your heart. It bugs me that my friend is like that, but I can't really get him to come around too much. He thinks he knows it all already, he was in the military, he works for Homeland Security. He does more harm than good with his opinions. It's tough to deal with that.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 05:59 PM
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15. I like reading your posts.
and no, I don't consider it wasted time reading your user profile:-)!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:07 AM
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17. Ahh, thank you very much....
I try to make entertaining and informative posts.

I see you like to ride horses. I was raised on a farm. I used to rodeo for awhile - I rode bulls. Horses are awesome though.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:13 AM
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5. The cultish Republicans of late
desire a one party system where they become, once and for all, a truly aristocratic race apart from the rest of us. You see, they deserve it, because they are right-thinking. Their beliefs are such that infallibility is just ordinary circumstance. They know what they know, and what they know is best for us and the world. Fuck epistemology, science (insofar as it deals with environmental and medical treatments), and ethics.

I wonder when our civil/political divisions will become great enough to split the Nation again into bloody Civil War?

NoFederales
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:40 AM
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9. one Corporate Whore /Christian Fundamentalist party
Where only the rich and the crazy feel at home. The rest of us poor suckers are left to fend for the scraps.

Yeah, the divide is getting uglier and bigger everyday. The big problem is if Civil War ever came our party leadership would sell all the rest of us out.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:16 AM
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12. I heard someone say Civil War II is unlikely.
He said that this time, the people who disagree are not in separate geographical regions. But I'm not so sure.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:48 AM
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13. Civil War II will be far uglier than the original Civil War
That's because Civil War II won't have the divisions of geography, but ideology, political beliefs, and even race, and will end up being fought throughout the country--if the average Joes and Janes rebel against their corporate masters and the Christian Taliban.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:48 AM
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21. Nick Anderson, political cartoonist, sums it up pretty well...


Anderson has skewered Chimpy on an almost daily basis. Just like The Daily Show, you get more real news from the funnies than you do MSM.

Check out some of his award winning work.

http://www.postwritersgroup.com/anderson-pulitzer.htm
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 06:04 PM
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16. I am still arguing with Conservatives
Who are saying that there WERE WMDs in Iraq we just haven't found them yet. In their political world the only thing necessary for something to be true is its utility for propaganda. IF it fits their fantasy views, its true for that reason alone and NOTHING, no amount of facts evidence or common sense will dislodge it from their belief system.
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Drnaline Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:39 AM
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20. WMD's
They freepers always tell me that we didn't find weapons but Saddam couldn't take the facilities he was testing them at. Why build if he didn't have them? I couldn't answer?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:26 AM
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18. The best thing you can do is laugh in their faces.....
arguing w/the GOP die-hards is fruitless. Ask one why they hate Hillary, I have yet to hear an answer that goes beyond, "She married Bill"...:wtf:

I laugh and ask them if they supported Clinton when he was president...inevitably I get a, "hell no!" To which I answer, "Then why should I support bush? After all, it was good enough for you to try take Clinton down, why is bush any better?" Faces drop to the floor every time....:)

Just laugh at them....they come from a long line of goomers that have spent generations learning how to hate any type of progress...:(
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:36 AM
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19. No they don't indulge, it's their main diet.
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