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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:06 PM
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The ultimate wedge issue that will assure a Dem sweep...
Like alot of you i cannot believe the SCOTUS decision regarding private property rights - Let the rethugs have their anti-gay and flag burning constitutional amendments, if the Dem's want to win now and forever, let them come up with an amendment that bans government seizing any property for private profit making concerns.

If the Dem leadership does not come out and do something or say something strong about this, you can kiss any chance of any Dem being elected anywhere in a rural area. As someone active in the dem party in a rural area, I already deal with scorn on environmental zoning (critical areas ordinances) which is perceived as an idea dreamed up by big city democrats forced on rural residents, government telling them what they can and can't do with their own land. Personally, I don't feel that private property rights include fouling the water and air I drink and breath, but in this media age perception is everything. And this ruling may well be for the total benefit of rich rethugs, I have no doubt, but it will be pinned on the democratic party, as my very quick survey of hate radio this afternoon proved.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:12 PM
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1. Sorry to break it to you
but it was the "liberal" members of the SCOTUS that voted for takings.

When did this party become "BYO Tar-and-Feathers"?
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:17 PM
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2. like I said, if the dems want to win
but I can dream, can't i?

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Sushi-Lover Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:20 PM
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3. I agree on an amendment, if its needed.
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 07:22 PM by Sushi-Lover
If other legislation can do the trick, thats what should be proposed. It doesn't matter that it was the 'left' judges that supported the decision or if Republicans start talking about it first. This is a winning issue and our politicians should be out there talking about it now. Otherwise, as you said, it will get pinned on them as their fault and besides, its the right thing to do.
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:24 PM
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4. I'm thinking there will be legislation
and that it will pass with a huge bipartisan majority.
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:30 PM
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5. I don't get our leadership sometimes, I truly hope they use this.
this is a huge issue that is being handed to them on a silver platter, this, social security, the missing billions in Iraq and the general clusterf*&k that is Iraq.

Please Dem leaders, please use this.....
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:31 PM
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6. from the wilderness reports
of a plan for a major super highway 1/4 mile wide,1,600 miles long running from mexico/texas to michigan/canada..right smack throught the middle of america..can this decision be part of that major highway..hhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:38 PM
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7. Forgive me if I am wrong......
...but this decision today was an interpretation of the US Constitution.......specifically...."nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation". Public use is now being interpreted as "Public Good" as defined by people who want to build hotels and shopping malls.

No amendment or law enacted by Congress is going to supersede this ruling. The little guy is basically fucked.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:10 PM
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9. until, in a few decades or so
there's another (abberent) Liberal Court -- like the Warren Court.

I wouldn't hold my breath. The Framer's intent with the court was to have a capitalist, pro-rich-property owner, pro-upper class curb on the legislature. Remember, the Senate was also originally appointed by the state legislatures too as a further curb on the only "democratic" body, the House of Representatives. Of course, now the House has been purchased outright by corporate money.
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:54 PM
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8. Ok i am calmer now, i just read the other posts on the issue
but still, the rightwingers hate spewers will be using this decision against us, i can tell you that. Anyone listened to local hate fest radio today, I did and I wanted to hurl.
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