CNN's top story this hour: "(Dean Causes) Democratic Infighting"

[DesEtoiles]

Bastards.

[NYCGirl]

1. Must be a really slow news day. NT

[bvar22]

6. Biden & Edwards need to grab their ankles....

...and take 20 lashes for their stupid comments this weekend.

For those writing to Biden and Edwards, please include this link to show them that their STUPID comments are damaging the ENTIRE party!

[NYCGirl]

9. One of the saddest aspects of this scuffle is that the good points Dean

made about the voting "problems" in Ohio and Florida have been virtually lost in the wind.

[saracat]

10. But you are OK with Dean's stupid comments? Sheesh. I suppose Biden and

Edwards should just be bobbleheads for Dean no matter how stupid a remark he makes? Even Dean corrected the remark.

[AntiCoup2K4]

14. WHAT stupid comments??

Has George Bush worked a day in his life? NO

Has Dick Cheney? NO

These are the leaders of the Republican party and they do not have the slightest fucking clue what it is like to work 8, 10, 12 hours a day in order to support a family, or for that matter what it's like to stand in line for HOURS to vote, thanks to a corrupt fucking Uncle Tom secretary of state who deliberately corrupted Ohio's voting system.

So where, exactly was Dean wrong in his comments?

[saracat]

26. He didn't say "leaders".He said all republicans. or republicans

He would have been fine if he clarified his remarks instead of having Blitzer do it for him.

[MoonRiver]

35. What (continues to) amaze me

is that any negative comment about our failed 2004 candidate Kerry is considered sacrilege. But it's a free for all against our party chairman. No wonder we keep losing, or let them steal, elections. What the hell purpose do you think is going to be achieved by scapegoating Dean AGAIN? The DLC has lost the last 3 elections thanks to a strategy (?) of appeasing Repukes, while attacking anybody who refuses to get in line in support of their new Repub Lite mantra.
:argh:

[saracat]

49. Not so. Kerry is attacked as though it should be expected and woe be it

to anyone who merely disagrees with Dean. Some people think Dean is infallible!And BTW, It is Dean who is pushing repub lite, sorry to say. He is the one who said he wishes "choice " could be"removed from our lexicon". but hey, maybe he mispoke, again.We aren't supposed to notice! And I agree about the DLC, but ufortunately, Dean is agreeing with them.

[MoonRiver]

79. Nobody is infallable. But what is the reason behind attacks on Dean?

The answer is that he doesn't march in lock step with the DLC mantra. He's often perceived to be a rebel against the "platform" (of appeasement, imo), which the DLCers hate. I'll stand behind Dean anytime in defiance of our corporate DLC DINOs.

[saracat]

82. I would be happy if Dean were defying them but he isn't sorry to say.

He is placating all the DINOS. That is why he wants to downplay a lot of progressive issues and didn't say squat about the Bankruptcy Bill. That is why he wants to stay in Iraq. Sounds like the DLC to me!

[MoonRiver]

84. With all respect, I have no evidence of anything you assert

about Dean.

[saracat]

85. Haven't you listened to his recent speeches? He said he wished "choice

wasn't part of the "lexicon of the Democratic Party and it is well known that he said we have to stay is Iraq , something to the effect of we "broke it, we have to fix it" He only spoke our about the bankruptsy Bill in passing recently. He didn't say anything prior to the vote. Most Of what I said is common knowledge. Google it if you like! If I find The link to some of the statements I will post it!

[LizW]

37. No he didn't.

Read the quote not what the right-wing media claimed he said.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050603-123932-6657r.htm

[Cha]

44. Thanks for this, LizW

Dems gotta learn to NOT get trapped by the media's intent to perpetuate Dem's infighting.

[Rainscents]

64. Dean said....Republicans HE KNOWS!!! He did NOT said ALL republicancs

NOr did he said Republicans. I repeat... Dean Said.....Republicans HE KNOWS!!!

[lyonn]

43. Since you and I are paying for their rent,

groceries, paid vacations and stock options. You're right, they must be repubs. cause they sure don't work.

[bvar22]

20. Absolutely NOT.

At least Dean was attacking Republicans (the enemy, remember?). I am waaaaaayyy more forgiving when someone errs while attacking Republicans.

Biden and Edwards were UNDERCUTTING the Chairman of the Democratic Party. See the difference?
There were MORE diplomatic ways to deal with this issue.


Or are YOU satisfied with the results??????

[saracat]

30. Rather that than people think all our party believes that all

Republicans are lazy and are to stupid to qualify their remarks! Please, and did you just use the word dipolomacy in regard to Dean? He is the one that made the undiplomatic gaffe and Edwards and Biden were trying to save face.Please.

[bvar22]

47. DEAN DID diplomatically resolve his error.

"Rather that than people think all our party believes that all Republicans are lazy"....absurd premise.

Once again you miss the point. I'll make it real simple:

1) Dean attacked Republicans.

2) Biden and Edwards attacked Democrats.

Get it???

[saracat]

54. I don't miss the point. Dean mispoke. He corrected himself

when caught. He didn't mean to castigate all Republicans. He mis spoke. Edwards and Biden merely didn't align themselves with a false statement. Dean isn't standing by his mis spoken statement why should they? And if a Democrat is wrong as dean was in this case, I would rather it be the Dems who point it out than the repukes!

[ultraist]

56. Right, let's drive away voters. Real fucking smart.

Criticize the Repuke leaders until the cats come home, but VOTERS? Dean was "undercutting" millions of prospective voters. People like my Repuke in laws who have and would at times vote DEMOCRATIC.

Even DEAN himself realized he made a MISTAKE and RETRACTED his comment by stating, he should have said, Leaders.

Dean can admit when he makes a mistake and correct it.

Edward did NOT attack anyone! He simply disagreed with ONE STATEMENT OF DEAN's. You are drinking the MSM koolaid if you take this as major infighting.

[bvar22]

68. No. You are Way off.

the Democratic Party has tried to WIN by attracting mushy republicans since 1994.....THAT approach HAS NOT WORKED.

The way to WIN is by attracting Democrats...NOT republicans.
30 Million Democrats stayed home or voted Republican in 2004. It is time to give THOSE Democrats something to go to the polls and vote for besides painsy assed republican lites!!!!!

It is time to try something new. Join MY campaighn. it is called: "FUCK THE LAZY RICH REPUBLICANS. America is for those who WORK for a LIVING!!!...Vote for the Democrat and TAKE BACK AMERICA!!!"
I'm sick of the lame asses around here all handwringy about "What the Republicans think!!"

OMG...What will the Republicans think????
I don't care!! Fuck the Republicans!!!
Better worry about what the DEMOCRATS think!

[Southsideirish]

21. Surely you jest. Dean is the only Democrat with integrity we have.

[Proud_Lefty]

25. No, but he is redefining the party

And we need to pull together to make that happen.

[Fridays Child]

15. I must have been in a coma. What did Biden and Edwards say?

Is there a thread about it?

Thanks. :)

[Adelante]

29. Heh, there are a dozen threads nt

[ultraist]

53. WHO made the stupid comment?

I believe it was DEAN that insulted prospective voters by essentially calling them lazy and corrupt.

Insulting prospective voters has got to be the stupidist thing a Dem leader can do. Let's drive away voters, ya, that'll work. Insult the leaders and the policies NOT THE VOTERS.

Thankfully, Dean RETRACTED his comment.

The MSM is attempting to blow this up to be a major situation of infighting. Just like they blew the Dean scream WAY OUT OF PROPORTION.

I wrote an email to Dean thanking him for CORRECTING his mistake.

[iwantmycountryback]

2. Well it's good there's no division among Republicans

Stupid presstitutes.

[AntiCoup2K4]

3. DEAN causes???

More like DLC puppets cause infighting. As usual.

[Cha]

46. Zactly!

They're the ones who threw the shot across the Dean's DNC bow!

[Tomee450]

72. Right

The DLCers never wanted Dean to become chairman.

[Douglas Carpenter]

80. Dave Sirota has a good article in defense of Dean

Here it is:


http://www.davidsirota.com/2005/06/my-take-on-howard-dean.html

:yourock: Dave Sirota :dem: :kick:

[bvar22]

92. Great Link.

"And now, former GOP/Christian Coalition operatives like Marshall Wittman - who hilariously call themselves Democratic "centrists" and pretend to speak for Democrats - continue to underhandedly attack Dean even today. These "centrists" think they do themselves a favor with such disloyalty. But what they have actually done is unify a strong contingent of the Democratic base around Dean....
<snip>
Certainly, that is scary to the insulated Washington, D.C. Democratic establishment. For years, these insiders have been able to handpick chairmen to make sure the party doesn't move back to its grassroots, middle-class roots. That explains their anger at him, and their subsequent attacks.

http://www.davidsirota.com/2005/06/my-take-on-howard-dean.html

[napi21]

4. Yeah, I just heard that too! Thanks so much to Biden and Edwards!

WHY didn't they tell the media that they were taking Deans remarks out of context and misquoting at the same damn time????

[saracat]

11. Why didn't Dean think before he spoke?

[napi21]

18. Why do you say he didn't think?

He was speaking about the difficulties regular people have when trying to vote. How difficult it is when people have a full time job, children, husbands, dinner to make, and all that, and they are expected to stand in line for 4+ hours to vote. He then related those statements to the leaders of the GOP who don't want to talk about insuring enough voting machines are available. Then he said, most of those Republicans never held a real job, so they wouldn't understand how hard it is for ordinary people.

Now, if you believe that's not thinking, then that's your opinion.

I know, Dean could couch his words like most other politicians do and not give the MSM the opportunity to cherry pick his words, but, I don't want him to do that! I like it that he speaks exactly what he means, instead of always trying the politically correct shit!

[saracat]

24. He admitted it. He didn't mean ALL republicans.He mis spoke.

Neither the media or the people should have to parse his words for him. He needs to be clear about what he is saying.

[LizW]

38. He didn't say ALL Republicans

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050603-123932-6657r.htm

[saracat]

50. He said Republicans with no qualifier.That means "all".

"Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives,"

[Cha]

48. For the last time..Dean Did Not say

"All republicans"

"Speaking to the Campaign for America's Future, Mr. Dean called for easier rules for voting, saying it is difficult for working parents to make it to the polls on time and wait to vote.
"Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives," Mr. Dean said. "But for ordinary working people, who have to work eight hours a day, they have kids, they got to get home to those kids, the idea of making them stand for eight hours to cast their ballot for democracy is wrong."

More at..
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050603-123932-6657r.htm

[saracat]

52. Didn't qualify republicans. That means "all' .And that is how it was i

interpeted.

[Cha]

55. "a lot of them"~Howard Dean, DNC Chairman

[saracat]

60. No link for that but that wasn't the orginal remark.

This is-
"Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives,"
link http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050603-123932-6657r.htm

[Cha]

67. That's what I'm quoting from..

I thought maybe you would see that..it says in there...

Speaking to the Campaign for America's Future, Mr. Dean called for easier rules for voting, saying it is difficult for working parents to make it to the polls on time and wait to vote.
"Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them" have never made an honest living in their lives," Mr. Dean said. "But for ordinary working people, who have to work eight hours a day, they have kids, they got to get home to those kids, the idea of making them stand for eight hours to cast their ballot for democracy is wrong."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050603-123932-6657r.htm

[saracat]

71. I see what you are saying but it is still the "republicans "

in the front of the sentence that define the trem. He is still saying"repeublicans" as in "republicans in general." I have no problem with what he meant. I have a problem with his clarity.He should be more careful with public speaking. He has had a lot to learn from.

[elehhhhna]

28. Hell, Limbaugh said Dems dont' have jobs. DIdn't hear Reeps up his butt.

[Cha]

51. Yeah, elehhhhna..

So there! :P

"Limbaugh: Making Election Day a holiday won't help Dems because "ost of their voters don't work anyway"


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1826752

[ultraist]

57. Limbaugh is a scumbag and not an ELECTED party leader

Is Limbaugh our standard?

We all criticized Limbaugh for that remark, but it's ok for Dean to make a very similiar remark? I think not.

There is a big difference between insulting voters and insulting Repuke leaders. We need to WIN OVER VOTERS. Thankfully, Dean saw the error of his way and CORRECTED himself.

[elehhhhna]

81. We can have a nah-nah-boo-boo moment here, though.

[dave29]

61. Not to read too much into this

but, even though I obviously am a Dean fan, I think you should consider the possibility that Dean is playing the Republican game perfectly. It's classic Republican tactic - over-reach, and then backtrack, knowing you have gotten your point out there. It's possible Dean intentionally mis-spoke in order to get a point across that is now being repeated in perpetuity across the networks. Sure, to some it seems idiotic and un-diplomatic.

Oh well. That's not Dean's job.

He said Republicans were lazy. This may ruffle a lot of feathers, but even though it is a sweeping generalization (I imagine you can visualize a laundry list of Republican sweeping generalizations they have thrown at Democrats until they stuck) it can hit home and lay the groundwork for the framing that needs to be done.

Republicans are voting against their own pocketbooks, their own values, and their own country. They ARE lazy. They do not attempt to understand the issues critically, rather they prefer blind loyalty. Most of them only understand blunt talk. This is what Howard Dean is offering them. Sure, there are the Neo-Cons, and they tend to be critical thinkers, but they are also batshit crazy.

Sure, people will piss and moan, and Dean has now backtracked in time to both make the point, yet take the knife out of it.

Or he just mis-spoke. It happens. I've seen our President do it from time to time.

[Proud_Lefty]

73. Love your analogy

Dean definitely understands the game and plays it to the fullest to our benefit for a change.

[stepnw1f]

5. Downing Street Memo

Impeach Bush!

[Jackpine Radical]

7. Blaming CNN is like blaming the sharks for eating swimmers

after you chum the waters.

CNN just does what it does. I don't like it, but that's the way it is. Schlemiels like Edwards & Biden, on the other hand, are out chumming the waters. God knows what they think they're doing--trying to play nice to the wingnuts or something. If they would keep their mouths shut or at least not be chopping at Dean's pulpit with their broadaxes, it would help a lot.

[janx]

12. Gunstermachers and schmucks and schlemiels!

;-)

[DesEtoiles]

8. CNN can't comprehend a party not marching in lock/goose-step

[Ksec]

13. media leading people by the nose again

they fear a regular Joe who tells it like it is. Hes dangerous to their corporate masters. So they slyly lead people into hating him. Have you ever saw any negative viewpoint about their chairman? Hes got baggage too. Imagine if our guy had been accused of that stuff. Hed be beheaded.

[Proud_Lefty]

17. Talk about their chairperson

I had no interest in watching Mehlman for an entire hour, but then heard so much about his comments that I watched the posted video on www.crooksandliars.com. As I was watching it, I realized that there were more lies coming out of his mouth than truth. Nothing said even came close. What sick demented people they are and we're always having to defend Howard Dean.

[Southsideirish]

16. Pro-corporate, middle of the road huggin' DLC'rs have got to go.

If we don't purge ourselves of these wimps we will never win a national election again. Republican smoochers have no place in the real Democratic party.

[KoKo]

19. How long before Dean is forced into silence or to Resign? How long..

See where they are going! They want him OUT of the DNC Chair they didn't want him to be there in the first place and now they take revenge just like the damned Repugs.

Where were the Dems defending Carter, Clinton or any of our candidates?

We need to get these "K-Street Kiss Ass Power Lovers OUT"...OUT..OUT!

Repub Lite and DINO's have no place in these dire times for Americans. And lets' start with those who voted for the "Bankruptcy Bill," those who will vote FOR John Bolton and those who will sell us down the river on Judges and SS and CAFTA and the rest of the votes that are turning our country over to the Repubs for DECADES ....ERASING all that Dems worked so hard for since the New Deal.

Get 'em out.

[Southsideirish]

27. I agree with you! He is our only hope and these low lifes are trying to

bring him down. I remember in the spring of 2003 driving up to Milwaukee to hear this "upstart" in person. Standing in a boiling hot asphalt parking lot and listening to the "dreamer from Vermont" have the courage and intestinal fortitude to be the first to speak out against the "brush cutter" - the audience of about 100 people were hollering and yelling in joyous response. We knew we had a winner and we did have one who could have defeated the pseudo cowboy until he was undermined by the DLC and their buddies in the media.

[ultraist]

59. What a ridiculous tin foil hat conspiracy theory. They VOTED DEAN IN!

:tinfoilhat: The Dem leaders that voted in Dean are driving him out.

:eyes:

Driving voters away by INSULTING them is destructive. Dean himself admitted he SHOULD HAVE SAID LEADERS NOT "a lot of Republicans."

[saracat]

66. Amen.I campaigned for Dean as chair and I am pissed about this remark!

Can't anyone admit that Dean made a MISTAKE? He mis spoke. Big deal. Biden and Edwards don't support the mis speak. Big deal. Everyone should get over themselves. Dean isn't god. Neither are Edwards or Biden.Let it go. The more it is chewed, the more polarizing it becomes!

[bvar22]

70. AGREED. THEY voted Dean in.....

...under INTENSE pressure from the grass roots. The Party Elders wanted someone else, and have been resentful ever since.

The comments from the Establishment Dems over the weekend were more of the same.

[ZinZen]

75. Not True

The "grassroots" of the Dem party backed Dean, not the DLC. They have never backed Dean and are perpetuating this negative crap as they always have.

[saracat]

88. Guess what? The grass roots didn't have a vote!

the DNC are the only people that get to vote, and they voted for Dean!
The grass roots campaigned and tried to influence, and Dean spent a lot of money campaigning. He also made a lot of promises to the powers that be. And he won!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. According to my OT (Opposite Theory) that means

Screaming headline: "(Dean Causes) Democratic Infighting"

OT translation: "Stop Dean. Now! He's killing us."

[Proud_Lefty]

33. Bingo

They're working overtime trying to stop Dean.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

41. I see it as a good sign.

Pull some weeds in our party and make the Pugs uncomfortable. Let folks reveal themselves.

[otohara]

23. This Is What Biden & Edwards Wanted

media attention on meanie Dr. Dean, so he'll shut the fuck up!

They run the conservative party of the democratic party, along with Hill & Bill and they won't let Dean forget that.

[Southsideirish]

31. Their miserable comments are duly noted and we won't forget.

I drove 200 miles to hear Edwards speak before the election. Mr "Cool, Calm and oh so Collected" trotted out of his huge air conditioned bus as cool as a cucumber while we "little people" stood there waiting and sweating for hours to hear him speak and he truly phoned it in. Everyone around us was so disappointed.

[MoonRiver]

39. self-delete

[KoKo]

42. Damn It! I never thought about this. Hillary and Bill in on it. Makes

sense, sadly. I defended Bill Clinton to all my friends when they laughted at me...I lost friends defending him.

Now it seems that something has changed and my defense of him makes me look like a fool seeing what's going on.

I still like the man but realize he was "turned" because of not wanting to go down with the "Monica" stain on his reputation forever. And, Hillary...well she's ambitions and can make lemonaid out of lemons. These are admirable qualities if we hadn't lost two presidential campaigns because they made the elections so close that the DRE Machines could steal the vote.

I still like Bill Clinton ...but NAFTA when he came in and "Media Deregulation in 1997 will tar him as giving the Repugs the power over us for decades and his not coming in and "cleaning house" means we will live with the Repug Dismantling for Decades.

Maybe he and Hillary think they can "restore" what we've lost...but how can I trust them after what we've seen so far.

Betrayal...over and over and over...by our own party. I guess we "low lifes" only pay the "postage money" for the campaign contribution envelopes. We don't count except for the "overhead." :puke:

[ultraist]

62. Hillary and Bill are in on this? WTF?

You are so far out there dude. Edwards will likely be the anti-Hillary choice in 08. Hillary will be the "centrist" DLC candidate. Let's HOPE she does not get coronated!

[Clark2008]

78. The media would like this, but it's not going to happen next time around.

eom

[MissWaverly]

32. Alert! Distraction from the Downing Street Memo

Did anyone get upset when Rush Limbaugh said that it was crazy for
Dean to propose a holiday for the national elections because MOST DEMOCRATS DO NOT WORK. Do we see CNN or anyone dealing with that. Then
when Dean flings the mud back then there's a firestorm. Republican feelings are hurt. What about our feelings for the last 5 years.

[Tracyjo]

45. I agree

A little blurb on CNN about democrats "infighting" and you'd thing it was the primaries all over again. We've got alot more important things to see on the tee-vee tomorrow folks. I think we should give it a rest. We're shooting ourselves in the foot over stupid crap.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

34. Hey, Edwards people.

Give me a link to Dean shitting on Edwards. Edwards has a couple of dumps to explain. Or Biden people :rofl:.

[ultraist]

63. Edwards has NOT "shit on Dean!"

He merely disagreed with ONE COMMENT of Dean's and Dean HIMSELF admitted he made a mistake and CORRECTED that comment.

Edwards was honest about it. Should he have said, Oh, ya, I agree with that statement of Dean's while 24 hours later Dean retracts it? Get real.

Edwards does NOT tear down other Democrats. Give me a link to where he has, EVER.

Dean stated during the primaries that Edwards would pose a bigger challenge to Bush than would Kerry. They get along very well. There is NO infighting between the two of them. The MSM is fabricating that point so they can smear the Democratic party.

Believe the MSM if you'd like. I guess they are out of abducted white women or court stories this weekend.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

76. Second request for link to retraction.

Who can forget the pickups and confederate flag flap during the primaries. How soon we forget.

On edit: "Have some Northerna come down here and tell us what to do..." Blah, blah, blah and somesuch.

[Upfront]

83. Should Have Said

Nothing.

[Warpy]

36. Let them trumpet this stuff all they want

After all, there is infighting and Dean is in the middle of it.

The party is overdue for a change in leadership and those old boys in the DLC are not going to go quietly into retirement and obscurity.

The mistake they'll make is in thinking this is somehow disorganized behavior that weakens the party. Neither is true.

They always make that mistake.

[berni_mccoy]

40. Mother ******g Propaganda Network!!!!!!!!!

:mad: :argh: :banghead:

[DesEtoiles]

58. And it was the snotty Carol Lin who gleefuly proclaimed the "infighting"

[Cha]

74. What a creepy face

she has for propoganda!

[sendero]

65. If there was every a party that needed some infighting...

... it is the Democratic party.

As long as we have butt-kisser appeasers like Biden, we need someone who will ratchet up the rhetoric like the Republicans do every day.

As long as we have "can't we all just get along" howdy doody VP wannabees, we need Dr. Dean.

Infighting? Yes, as long as we have this whole crop of ineffective, useless, whining lap dog senators that never saw a piece of Republican legislation they didn't like, someone needs to fight to get them back into private life.

[OneTwentyoNine]

69. CNN top story should be "Bush and Blair LIED to INVADE Iraq"

But hey,work up a story about how Dems are so fractured that the party is falling apart because of infighting. So...what was it when many Repukes dressed down Delay??

[deutsey]

77. Well, it looks like another 40 or 50 years of GOP dominance

or is their plan for another 1,000 years like Hitler promised?

Either way, unless the Dems get their act together either number seems realistic.

:evilfrown:

[cobaindrain]

86. We can't win with Dean as the face of the party

sorry, that's the hard cold truth. Dean does need to be pushed into the background somewhat if we want to win again, though his agenda must be applied, Dean himself harms the party. He has the reputation of a crazy, loose cannon, damaged goods.

[Cha]

87. No it's NOT the

"cold truth"..it's your cold truth..the world you live in.

[snowbear]

89. Cobaindrain... gimme' a break....

:eyes:

BTW.. I can't believe this post is still alive and well! I figured when I logged on this evening, this post would have been buried.. Buried or shut down. :smoke:

It's gotten a bit out of hand.. :wtf:

[Clark2008]

90. Depends on your motives - on this board and others.

[unfrigginreal]

91. Pure Bullshit!

The "hard cold truth" is what Dean is serving up. Any Democratic prima donna's that can't take it should just bury their head in the sand. That's something that they've had a lot of practice at.

Is he the 'crazy loose cannon' that FDR was. Or perhaps Barry Goldwater and Newt Gingrich. The characters that went one hell of a long way to making the PUKES the dominant party in the country.

I hope Dean keeps speaking the truth that gets these prima donna's all in a twitter. Perhaps then folks will look at Democrats without seeing pushovers.

[AntiCoup2K4]

93. That bumper sticker in your signature reveals your bias

therefore, your entire statement is nothing but DLC appeasement spin.

[cobaindrain]

96. I can't support Hillary Clinton?

why?

why do so many people here have there heads in the sand?

I like Howard Dean, but he is beyond resurrection right now.

Hillary Clinton is a DEMOCRAT remember, a big powerful democrat who brings out the worst in our enemies. Bill and Hillary is the best thing that happened to our party, they are still relevant, and they can still win!

[ultraist]

94. The MSM can kiss my ass!

Dean, Edwards, or Biden did NOT cause 'infighting.' So WHAT if they disagreed with Dean's statement. Dean admitted it was a mistake and corrected it. That will NOT break our party. We are NOT that fragile. Nor do we ostracize our members for not staying in total lockstep with the talking points as do the Repukes.

Democrats have a lot more strength and resilence than the MSM likes to admit. I'm so sick of their "broken party" meme! Fuck them.

[candy331]

95. Keep it up Doc ! "How Sweet it is" n/t

[leesa]

97. And, of course, Democrats will take the bait like they always do.

Good little obedient Democrats.