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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:27 AM
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As predicted - Dean misspoke so WSJ uses it to train the cult
Dean misspoke on MTP Sunday, saying Osama when he meant Saddam and vice versa. He very clearly misspoke.

It was as obvious as it could be to anyone not supporting the cult that he misspoke but, as predicted, the cult's leadership hierarchy had to use it to train the minds of their gigged followers.

This is how deceptive these folks are. The way they operate in controlling their cult is VERY similar to how the Moon organization operates. The deception, the protection of the cult at ALL costs, the demonization of anything critical of the cult, the information control, the loaded language...on and on...

Of course Bush made the same type of error during the debates but he is the figurehead leader of their cult, so they ignore that.

This is just plain deceptive.

here's Scoobies' post predicting they'd use it.

http://scoobiedavis.blogspot.com/2005_05_01_scoobiedavis_archive.html#111677570778201958

here's Mediamatters on the deception:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200505230005

In his May 23 "Best of the Web Today" column, Wall Street Journal OpinionJournal.com editor James Taranto claimed that Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean proclaimed Osama bin Laden innocent of involvement in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Taranto quoted Dean's May 22 appearance on NBC's Meet the Press, during which Dean highlighted "the insinuation the president continues to make to this day that Osama bin Laden had something to do with supporting terrorists that attacked the United States. That is false." From the full context of the quote, however, it is apparent that Dean misspoke: He clearly intended to refer to Saddam Hussein, not bin Laden.
more...

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along the same vein....

Send this to any member of the cult of conservatism who thought or still thinks that Saddam was attached to al-Qaeda.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/19/1410214&mode=thread&tid=25

Georgetown Law School professor David Cole describes how Bill O'Reilly deliberately cut out a recorded statement from the head of the 9/11 Commission to mislead his audience about links between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:32 AM
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1. Media Matters also pointed out that this "quote abuse" was not widespread,
and that "Even conservative news website WorldNetDaily.com agreed that Dean had made a mistake, proclaiming in a May 23 article: "Howard Dean confuses bin Laden, Saddam." Dean Nation, a weblog "dedicated to the spirit of the Dean Movement," noted that Dean had misspoken and also pointed out that President Bush similarly confused Saddam and bin Laden during the first presidential debate of the 2004 campaign."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200505230005

Fortunately, James Taranto is in a small minority here.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:41 AM
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2. I'd like to hear from Dean
on this..I'd love to hear what he has to say about this verbal faux pas!
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:45 AM
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3. I'd like to hear with George W. Bush has to say about it, actually.
Of course I am an Irony Buff.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 11:19 AM
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4. very true
Thanks for pointing that out. I should have mentioned it in my post.

Also, if someone makes anything out of this, I am sure a case will be made that Taranto was "just spoofing" or that he "figured" everyone would know the truth. Or he may even back down on this one, since the hive apparently doesn't feel they can pull it off.

This is the WSJ. Most conservatives would tell you the WSJ doesn't play on this kind of turf. Fact is, they do.

I mean, here's Taranto's intro to the quote...

As for Osama bin Laden, Dean later pronounced him innocent:

This is the kind of crap that will show up on someone's window shield election day.



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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 04:05 AM
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5. Overreacting.
If the discussion goes into overtime, clearly it gives more opportunity to "our side" to talk further about what he really meant to say, and I don't think they want to do THAT.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 04:11 AM
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6. beating my own drum here, but I also predicted this....
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:49 AM
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7. Did you ever find your chicken head?
hehe

Hey, this will pop up when they need it. Like I said, on a car windshield in a country church parking lot Sunday before an election.

All official like, with the dates of the show and stuff....

I understand the point that they shouldn't want to discuss this because the subject - if dissected - would make them look bad. But there will not be any discussion on those Rushwannabee's radio shows around the country... it will be just one side doing the talking.

For the WSJ to do this says A LOT about what they are capable of...

anywho, I saw this chicken head bouncing around and I can tell it is NOT yours. Yours is screwed on tightly LosinIt, thank you very much...

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winkypig Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:50 AM
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8. always
Whenever anyone misspeaks, the opposing party jumps down their throat. We do the same with Bush.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:55 AM
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9. How do you tell when Bush is mispeaking?
I am sure we have a time or two but I am guessing they were he mispskoke and said what he realy means.

Beyond that can you give me some good expamples of what you are talking about?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:38 AM
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10. Bush's "misspeaking" in the debates was also different
Edited on Thu May-26-05 09:39 AM by karynnj
It was NOT a slip of the tongue - he WAS answering an Iraq question and said we were fighting them BECAUSE Saddam Hussein (they ?) attacked us. He was repeating something he had said very often in different ways (It's not a war of choice they attacked us etc.) in his closed media events. Kerry was the one who brought up the name Osama Bin Ladin. After he dramatically said that something important was just said - and then he said Saddam Hussein did not attack the US on 911, Bin Laden did. Bush was flustered enough to repeat "I know that" twice while moving around like a chicken with his head cut off.

The difference is Dean obviously misspoke, as everyone does. Bush was repeating a piece of propaganda in one of only 3 forums where anyone was likely to call him on it. The only error was that he repeated a routine sound bite of his campaign without stopping to think if it was true during the debate where Kerry could directly take him to task.

Misspeak is not a synonym for deliberately lie. Dean==misspeak, Bush==lie.
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