Snowe and Collins On Knees. Joe Dead.

[DemocracyInaction]

I'm from Maine. Closing Portsmouth Naval Yard and Brunswick Naval Air Station isn't the usual "how sad" like such news is for you people in other states. It's like closing down your state. Geeee, and we have TWO Republican Senators---Snowe and Collins. What's up??

These two have made noises about everything from not supporting the "nuke" option of Frist to Bush's SS con scheme, etc. They have put flies in the Repukes ointment before (like saving Clinton's ass). Their only hope (and Snowe is up for re-election) is to pull things out of the fire as the 'saviors' of Maine. If Snowe doesn't, even she who is an icon could be flushed. In fact, if this goes down and they continue to vote for anything Bush wants, they are both dead. Sooooo, in essence, Bush has the gals down on their knees unzipping his fly and asking if they can service him. If they win the battle for Maine, everything you hoped the Dems could prevent in this country is "history". Save Maine and fuck the country. OR fuck Maine and not be re-elected (what would a good Senator do??).

Also, Joe Lieberman got his reward for sucking Bush's 'member'. But, again, I smell the ploy of trying to get Holy Joe to vote with the Repubs since he's such a Dem whimp. He has the option of saving his hide OR repubs will be removing one more Dem Senator.

And people thought that the base closing were not political................

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Riiiight. Not political. And I have this bridge here in Brooklyn.....

Have the Repukes EVER EVER EVER told the truth?????

It does not matter what Snowe or Collins do now, or what promises Bush and Co make even if Snowe and Collins go down on their knees, those who do not tow the party line will be punished. Blue states will be punished no matter what party their Senators belong to!
There is no such thing as less than 1000% (yes, that is one thousand percent) loyalty to the Bushes. If you are not with them, you are against them. No compromise, no bargaining, no nothing! Ask Rove.

The people in the states of Washington and Oregon are suffering the same fate. Bush is laughing so hard, he is peeing his pants.

Check for the correlation between base closings and blue states and/or senators who have given BushCo a hard time about anything anytime in the past 30 years.

[MaineDem]

4. I thought Washington was the exception

It's gaining jobs, I believe.

[gratuitous]

2. The base closings are not political?

What five-year-old told you THAT lie? Go back and kick his ass.

[obreaslan]

13. Right, not political....

Like the preacher who threw the 9 people out of his N. Carolina congregation was not being political. :sarcasm:

[Toots]

3. Bush* signs the bills and if they are halfway decent politicians they can

relay that to the people. They will fold to Bush* though because they have no real heart. Some bases will have to be closed and they can't all be in Democratic districts so it could really be a toss up.

[Old and In the Way]

5. A lifelong friend of mine works at Portsmouth NS....

He was a Bush supporter as of 3 years ago. We had a blowout about 9/11 in 2002 and I haven't talked to him since. He was pretty well set at PNS, he was a lifer....I wonder what he'll do now? I wonder what he's thinking about Bush these days?

[deadparrot]

6. You think Snowe and Collins are in trouble?

I mean, I'm sure the neocons aren't in any big hurry to help them retain their seats, and I'm sure the Dems have their eyes on at least one replacement.

[damntexdem]

7. Hey, the important thing for the GOP is to move jobs ...

from Blue states to Red states -- individual senators just don't matter.

[Ouabache]

11. this may be the schnizzle on it exactly

Indiana red state with one somewhat DINO dem senator= loses no bases, but some jobs at one base, although those will be be more than gained back by Homeland Security job gains at another bse here. And those jobs are coming from D.C. supposedly? Looks right to me - kill federal jobs in blue states and DC, move them to red states. that's the politics.

[Donna Zen]

8. Snowe and Collins aka the evil sisters

Both have come out against the piratization of SS. I think that will be the trade off if one is to be had.

This state had a chance for Pingree... oh Maine what a mistake.

The empire needs an imperial army, and I'm not sure anyone can stop them now.

[Hippo_Tron]

9. Funny thing is, if Snowe and Collins as well as 3 others switched parties

Base closings, etc. wouldn't be so easy.

[Donna Zen]

10. They will not switch

Snowe might retire...

Maybe her husband, who screwed up my retirement when he was governor, will take her place.

[Hippo_Tron]

12. Hopefully a Democrat will take her place

Maine is a pretty solid blue state these days.

[MaineDem]

15. Snowe has been elected with about 60% of the vote in the past

And against good solid Democratic opponents.

People are buying the "moderate" bit. I'm hoping we can convince them otherwise next year.

[xchrom]

14. snowe and collins are complicit.

repukes make ''noises'' that sound independent.

that's for show -- these guys knew these bases were going to close -- i mean how long have they been at these jobs of theirs?

any thing they've said to make it seem other wise is to try and save some face.

[Francis]

16. They are not closing

They are on a list that is recommending closure, not the same thing
They could be on the list for twenty years or more going through the closing process