Clark's Million Dollar Challenge

[dobak]

http://www.clark04.com/

Clark is trying to raise $1 million by Dec. 31st

Supporters have donated $125,000+ in just the last day or so.

Help out!


(edited to change 21st to 31st - thanks!)

[slinkerwink]

1. wasn't that $125,000 in the last two days instead of one?

;-)

[Myra]

4. One was a fundraiser targeted for the General's birthday slinkerwink

And this one is targeting Dec 31, which is a different day.

;-)

[slinkerwink]

23. not true....

"Also, when you contribute to the CCN birthday fundraiser your money is also counted towards the total for the $1 million online challenge"

It looks like since they couldn't have two fundraisers at once, that they combined them into one. That's a little bit disingenious.

[WillyBrandt]

29. Yeah, real disingenuous

He just can't be trusted. :crazy:

[tameszu]

34. Nope--and stop trying to squish on our morale, please =P

Part of the point of the Birthday Fundraiser was to track donations that came through a tool that uses a specific email address (it was also in response to a specific request from the Community Network).

The One Million Dollar fundraiser tracks all online donations, so there's no way the birthday stuff couldn't have been double counted.

Disingenous? Maybe? But no one asked as to where the funds came from for those last 5 bats at the end of 3Q either...campaign tactics are 90% propaganda anyway...

[TLM]

61. Has Clark started lising the number of donations yet?

Just curious.

[Myra]

36. If Dean fans have learned one word it should be "disingenious"

It would certainly seem to describe his fund raising strategy.

Just a quick review:

First a "leak" in an obliging newspaper painting Dean as the
victim and smearing the Kerry and Gephardt's teams as the perps.

Simultaneous multiple posts from DUers, apparently in constant
contact with the mother ship, about the dastardly alleged deed,
coupled with lots and lots of fund raising for Dean and much
pressuring of people here to immediately "denounce the ad" and
donate to Dean!

Then days of "denounce/donate..." threads to milk the heck out of it.

And still, I haven't seen a post from one DUer who saw the
alleged ad broadcast on TV.

I'm amazed it leaves you with so much time to patrol other
candidates threads for, egags, birthday/year end fund raising!!!
The horror...

Speaking of "disingenious" slinkerwink.

;-)

[wndycty]

47. Wow. . .

. . .a Clark fundraiser gives the Dean fans an opportunity to attack. Are they a little worried about something?

[Renew Deal]

49. How is this for disingenious?

The last big Dean fundraiser they put up 5 bats. They were never going to make the 5th bat so they changed it from raising $5 mil to raising $15 mill overall which was more attainable. Then after missing the $15 mil. Dean supporters went running around saying that they made it.

The point is that this silly bickering is unnecessary. Trying to squash support for a fellow democratic candidate is disingenious.

[TLM]

60. Yeah but that's Clark's campaign for you....

nothing but disingenious...

[Justice]

63. Clark's Campaign for me

is very genuine.

And is obviously keeping you up at night since you can't let a pro-Clark post be without splattering it with oh so witty comments.

[dobak]

7. I said: "last day or so"

I am not sure when it started, I just know it was not there late Monday night

I am curious to see how close Clark is to Dean in fundraising. I have even heard rumors that he has an outside chance of beating him.

;-)

[WillyBrandt]

8. Clark might beat him, but only for the quarter

Dean of course has a much larger overall fundraising tally. But you knew that :)

[dobak]

12. yes - 4th quarter

He has no chance of catching Dean on total $$$ raised.

[Justice]

43. Clark Wasn't In The Race

until the last quarter!

[OKNancy]

73. He has also spent a lot more

n/t

[Myra]

14. I gave again today

So I've given the last and as well as "so"!

Thanks for the post dobak.

[Romberry]

38. I'd be willing to wager actual money on that rumour...

...as being wrong. Clark won't be close. It doesn't really matter anyway since Clark has chosen to unilaterally disarm which leaves him dead in the water after the primaries should he win the nomination. Once he gets to 25.4 million raised, he essentially can't take another dime.

If you want to bet on which candidate ends the quarter with more money raised in the October-Decemeber period, just send me a message. I could use the dough.

[BootinUp]

39. Incorrect

The decision to accept federal funds for the primary campaign does not limit Clark in the general election.

The primaries and the general election are two different decisions. Clark will take FEC funds for the primary. He STILL has the option to decide what to do in the general election.

Please stop spreading this untruth.

[Renew Deal]

50. And

none of the candidates will reject matching funds for the GE. Dean skipped matching funds for the primary so he can blow as much as he wants on the primary. There will be no reason to reject them for the GE.

[KittyWampus]

53. Exactly, I Think Dean Supporters Perpetuate This Myth To Excuse Dean

and his flip flopping on the issue of campaign finance... he could very well have stayed in the limits for the Primary against Democratic opponents and then forgone them in the General.

[TLM]

62. Oh so CLark will reverse his stance on caps and limits for the GE?

Seems rather hypocritical considering how many attacks the Clarkies have shot off at Dean for doing the same during the primary season.


And the problem is that there are several months between the end of the primary and the start of the GE cycle. Time where the dem would be unable to respond to Bush attacks.

I thought the whole push for CLark was how much better he'd be regarding attacks... looks like that's simply not true.

[TexasPatriot]

65. bah

where's that poop graphic....
ahh... there it is...

:hurts:

[BootinUp]

81. I think once again you phrase the question

incorrectly. Clark's message on this has been clear if anyone is listening. It is about staying within spending limits in the primary season. Would you honestly criticize a candidate for raising the necessary funds in the general election legally?

[Tom Rinaldo]

83. Can't speak for all "Clarkies"

But Clark has NEVER attacked Dean for opting out of the limits for raising money in the Primary season. He blames BUSH for sistorting the role of money in politics to the extent that it has been distorted. Clark only challanged Dean to target the extra war chest that he is able to raise outside of the public finance limits during the primary season, for later use against Bush directly, and to abide by the state by state caps set by public financing for use by Democrats against Democrats in the primaries.

[jmaier]

52. slinkerwink

Please leave the smilies off of your snarky little posts which appear without fail on any pro-Clark thread. It doesn't suit you.

[WillyBrandt]

2. How did the pace of online fundraising increase so quickly?

I remember it was taking forever to get those candles lit, and today we got a lot lit in a few hours.

And his million dollar challenge is going as a very quick clip.

Is anything happening? He just seems to have gotten a much higher rate of online fundraising in the last two days or so.

[katusha]

35. pay day was on monday

a lot of clarkies give incrementally. a lot do ,say $25 dollars every paycheck.

[artr2]

48. The PAC money is starting to roll in

:)

[Jerseycoa]

76. email campaign

They did an email campaign with the cake link in it, so it reached more than bloggers. Worked well, didn't it?

[arewethereyet]

3. he wants to bring Hussein to justice ?

hey Wes, I think that ship has sailed.

must be a slow Wes day.

[WillyBrandt]

5. Thanks for your positive contribution

Everyone looks forward to such trenchant analysis, such lack of snark, such unique reflection upon a candidacy. Some posters offer mindless one-liners, snide quips, and poor capitalization.

Thank you for being different.

[Myra]

10. :) Wrong kind of contribution, eh?

eom

[arewethereyet]

13. now THATS funny !

thanks for making my night Myra !

[Myra]

17. It's what I live for arewethereyet

:evilgrin:

And the "justice" General Clark is referring to is Saddam's trial.

"So I offer the following four-point concrete proposal to bring Saddam Hussein to justice. My proposal addresses several important issues.

The first is location. Above all, we should accept the Iraqi people's desire for justice. And because of that, the trial against Saddam should be public and held where the atrocities were committed--in Iraq."

http://www.clark04.com/speeches/021/

[arewethereyet]

77. has anyone with authority to make it happen suggested otherwise ?

not that I've noticed.

some have called for the Hague to do it but their charter prohibites it based on a sort of statute of limitations on how far back they can consider crimes.

he seemed to me to be stating the obvious and it was the banner headline of the day.

thought he could do better than that.

[arewethereyet]

11. I thought I'd interject some political content to the telethon

of course this urgent call for cash could be political content enough since you got me thinking about it.

[Jerseycoa]

20. So much fun, Willy

When you are talking to somebody I have on Ignore.

Word of the Day: Snark :evilgrin:

[eileen from OH]

6. My eyes may be going

but that looks like Dec. 31 to me.

eileen from OH (good luck, Clarksters!)

[dobak]

9. thanks, I mistyped

:-)

[Jerseycoa]

24. Thank you, eileen from OH

:hi:

[Jerseycoa]

15. Wow!

The cake. Gen. Clark's getting older and older and older. B-)

[WillyBrandt]

16. what happened, though?

the candles were barely lighting, now we've got a layer in a fwe hours?

And I haven't found a really good Word of the day, alas.

[Jerseycoa]

18. Must have been my fifty bucks for Big Dog

[WillyBrandt]

19. is it you... Mister Soros?

I read your book! Great book!

[Myra]

25. You could opt for a more mundane word like "challenge"

As in "$1 million challenge" by December 31"

I know it's not up to your usual standards for the word
du jour, but it's fitting.

[Justice]

44. Let It Go

It is just a cake for his birthday -- you fret over the candles not lighting fast enough and then fret over the candles lighting too fast.

Are you Goldilocks?

[WillyBrandt]

51. I'm wondering where the fundraising spike came from

that's all

[KittyWampus]

54. Maybe It Was Madonna's Endorsement!

I am half serious and half joking!!!

The sad/funny, or shall we say ironic, thing is Madonna may mean more to a lot of people than Gore!

[Clark Can WIN]

21. I'm going to send him my Christmas bonus

soon as I get it on Friday. Can't think of a better present to myself.

CHANGE THE WORLD! DONATE www.clark04.com

[Jerseycoa]

22. No Christmas presents this year

I've told everyone. I'm plugging what I would have spent into the campaign. Feels good. Everyone's saying as long as it gets GWB out of there, they will sacrifice my usual paltry gift. But they add up nicely.

[gulliver]

26. I'll be accepting that challenge. n/t

[Hawkeye-X]

27. I am rejecting the challenge

He'll fall very short. Dean will raise five or six times as much as Clark will. Plus, the recent activities at DU against us Deanies from Clarkies has disgusted me to an extent that Dean will receive a sizeable contribution from me before December 31st.

You can thank the trolls here.

Hawkeye-X

[WillyBrandt]

28. What was the point of this post?

I mean, really? No one was bashing Dean here in any way. No one, of course, was expecting a Dean fan to donate to Clark's fundraiser.

Is this just mindless ire? What are you thinking?

(Mentioning trolls, no less!)

[Hawkeye-X]

31. Take a break from adoring Clark for a few minutes

Take a good, long, look at the GD forums, P&C forums, and you'll see MANY clarkies bashing Dean for no reason whatsoever, and it's gotten to a point where it is divisive where any pro-Dean posts are often attacked by Clarkies or Kerryites and others.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

32. YAWN! You Just Described Every Candidate Post in This Forum.

You really ought to know better than that! Dean supporters are no innocents, not at all. Neither are Kerry supporters, or Clark supporters, or Kucinich supporters.

My ignore list is a mile long, and it's filled with Dean supporters who attack Clark at every opportunity. Do you really want to play Heirarchy of Oppression?

DTH

[neuvocat]

37. So two wrongs make a right, huh?

If you really think that you have to stay around here to help defend your candidate then you are wasting time here. You could spend that energy on helping Dean win the nomination but no, you have just stick around and do a smear job with posts like these.

You know, I don't see Dean attacking the other candidates like that. If you don't want to follow his example then Dean probably isn't who you should be voting for-or Clark, Kucinich, Braun, Sharpton, and so on.

[WillyBrandt]

41. Their behavior is so bad, it has to be imitated

Have you noticed that every time a Clark thread comes up it gets flooded with the anti-Clarkistas spewing their conspiracy theories?

Again, I don't see you point.

Dean is a wonderful candidate. Support him to the fullest.

[KittyWampus]

55. Hawkeye-I've NEVER Taken A Dump In A Dean Fundraising Thread EVER

even when they didn't make their goal and moved the goal post.

[TLM]

64. You mean when the goal was 15 million

and they made like 14,980,000 or so?


Or the one where they were shooting for 350,000 and got almost 500,000 in 3 days?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

30. Weaker and Weaker

Sad.

DTH

[stickdog]

33. There's still the problem of the million question challenge concerning

Clark & Acxiom.

[WillyBrandt]

42. Also, what was Clark involvment at Roswell

And was Clark one of the surgeons on Fox's "Alien Autoposy"?

We can only assume.

Thanks, stickdog, for being of good cheer, and not playing only one tune.

[Justice]

46. No Problem No Concern

Here.

Thanks Stickdog, thanks to your post, I just contributed $100 to Clark.

[KittyWampus]

56. Howard Dean Supports Rush Limbaugh

Did You Know Dean Is Part Owner OF Radio Station That Play Rush Limbaugh?

[KittyWampus]

57. Howard Dean Supported By Unions That Financed Venezuelan Coupe

That's right, the Unions that have backed Dean are the 2 largest in the AFL-CIO- the group which helped finance the opposition to Chavez down in Venezuela.

See how easy it is to do quilt by association Stickdog?

[_NorCal_D_]

70. Of course!

However you forgot to mention:

General Clark is a War Criminal who is UNFIT to be our President
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=364579

Why no Sane Person Should Even Consider Clark for Pres.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243

[Cat M.]

78. Why?

You actually think the government doesn't already know your name, social security number, address, phone number, and make and model of your car? Or that they couldn't find out even without Axciom?

Do some research. All the information Acxiom has was obtained legally and most of it the government already posseses (and the government has even more!) All Acxiom did was put the information in one place.

This whole idea that we have "privacy" regarding our information is a joke. I can't even get discounts at the grocery store without giving them a whole bunch of information and getting a little card that allows them to track all my purchases, right down to what brand of feminine hygiene products I use and how often I buy them.

[JNelson6563]

40. This Deanie wishes the Clarkies

good luck. I don't doubt you'll hit your goal.

Damn exciting stuff to be so involved in a campaign, no? Well here's to more Americans getting involved! After all, it's suppose to be OUR governement! :toast:

Keep us posted on your progress.

Julie

[Lisa0825]

58. I second that!!!

This Deanie likes Clark too, and competition is good for both sides! I'll keep my money on Dean, but good luck with the challenge! :-)

[Cat M.]

79. Wow...

a nice Deanie. Cool. :) I've never really met one of you before.

Thanks!

[HFishbine]

45. Good Luck Clarkies

If Clark meets this goal it's a good thing for all democrats. Good luck!

[Myra]

59. Update: The four star general raised one star so far, almost 25% of goal.

$162,760 as of 1:30 ET, 12/18!
1551 contributors.

[Justice]

69. Excellent

Thanks for the Update!

[Name removed]

66. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[TexasPatriot]

67. first!!!!

first to post in response to a thread I expect to hear Hannity read on the news!!!

(ps - this is not the way to win people)

[BootinUp]

72. LOL! n/t

[denverbill]

68. Your 'friend' committed mail fraud then.

Pretty fricking stupid, IMO.

[_NorCal_D_]

71. 50 bucks is on the way!

B-)

[Myra]

74. That's great _NorCal_D_

Thank you.

[MoonRiver]

75. Done!

Hope it helps this marvelous person become our nominee!

Here's one huge :kick: for Clark!

[Jerseycoa]

80. Oh my

$197,702

I'd like to stay up and watch it turn to $200,000. Oh, well.

I bet tomorrow when I wake up, between the blog cake, the house parties, and the main page fundraiser, we're at half a mil. Who'd a thunk it?

:smoke:

Enough showing off. Off to bed.

[beyurslf]

82. Hey you're up over a quarter of a mill. Well on your way

Good luck on the drive. I think all the name calling is dumb. Raise your money. We can raise ours. And the voters will decide. Good luck!