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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:22 PM
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If we impeach bush what does that mean?
can we kick him out of office?

i know we need more dems in the house to start impeachment proceedings, but ... when we get them and they start--and he is impeached, does he have to leave office or is it just a slap on the wrist.

if he leaves, then does cheney take over till end of term?
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:24 PM
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1. I will believe there is a god. EOM
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:25 PM
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2. If we tried to impeach Bush....
would the media cover it? How would we know?:shrug:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:28 PM
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3. Ain't gonna happen.
There would have to be a conviction following the impeachment; only then would he have to haul his sorry ass back to Crawford. And then Darth Cheney would be President. He'd then appoint his own VP, who would be some heinous scumbag like Frist. As much as I'd like to see the Chimperor kicked out of the White House, this would not actually improve anything much.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:28 PM
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4. A better scenario is to get the goods on #2 and #3 in line before bumping
W..We need to plan ahead because a constitutional crisis would be preferable to a normal pattern of succession in this case..
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:31 PM
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6. I'm with ya there.
Otherwise, who's up for a coup?

Note to Secret Service, FBI, NSA, CIA, etc.: I kid because I love.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:50 PM
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13. Sorry, but that wouldn't work
If the vice president resigned or was removed (as in Spiro Agnew) the president would appoint a new vice president subject to Senate confirmation. If the speaker of the House (3rd in line) was removed, the House would simply elect a new speaker.

So there will always be some Republican bozo waiting in the wings unless we take the House back in 2006.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:14 AM
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18. Possibly, but it still wouldn't be those waiting to wing it..
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:31 PM
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5. got to work backwards up chain of command
Rove, Rice, Chaney, Bush. In that order. In jail, preferably Gitmo.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:32 PM
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8. I served a year on Gitmo in the 70's.
I'd volunteer to go back for that.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:16 AM
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19. Maybie we could get Englund to plan their daily workouts..
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:31 PM
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7. In the unlikely scenario that we win back the House in 2006
We would need a very cohesive majority there, something we haven't had in had 40 years, just to get him impeached in the House.

Then there would be a trial in the Senate, and to be be found guilty and be removed from office, it would require a 2/3s vote, and that will not happen under any circumstance.

So basically he will be in the WH until 2008.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 04:21 PM
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25. Nevertheless, he'd be damaged goods. It'd bruise his ego HUGELY.
Edited on Fri May-06-05 04:22 PM by calimary
It'd be a GORGEOUS black eye smacked at the neoCONS and the republi-CONS and the fundies and freepers et al. It would be EXQUISITE payback for Clinton, and sweetest of all, it would be as PERMANENT A BLEMISH ON HIS RECORD IN HISTORY as Clinton's enemies strive to make his impeachment, practically every minute on the minute. Of course he wouldn't be driven from office. But it would be SIMPLY LOVELY, and SUCH poetic justice, to see it get through the House (after we take it back in 2006).

BTW, the work on this MUST start NOW. IMMEDIATELY. YESTERDAY. And EVERY DAY without fail until we succeed.
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:32 PM
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9. If impeached, he'd next be tried in the Senate
The Senate would make the ultimate determination as to whether Bush would be removed from office. Cheney would take over. Of course, if somehow Bush was impeached, perhaps Cheney would also. That would place the Speaker of the House next unless Cheney goes first an there is a new VP chosen, as when Ford replaced Agnew.

Of course none of this will happen unless there is a tremendous change in the make up of Congress in 2006.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:39 PM
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11. Nixon replaced Agnew with Ford
after Agnew resigned.

After Nixon resigned there was no VP until Rockefeller was confirmed in December 1974.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:52 PM
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14. how hard can it be?
seems to me that the shit if falling down around this country left and right and left again. (freudian slip? left again? wishful thinking?)
people are gonna vote the dems in.

(of course, if we're all voting on the blackbox then i guess they'll "win" again)
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LuPeRcALiO Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:33 PM
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10. It'll probably mean Frist
By the time Junior gets on the last train to Crawford, Cheney will probably have already cashed in his chips and left the casino, and a new Dr. No will have his job.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:44 PM
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12. Probably Condi.
Uh...
Christ.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:54 PM
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15. We can deal with her
If they're whittled all the way down to Condi and we don't suffer from public outcry, then she's as dead as last week's leftovers.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:55 PM
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16. You're right about that.
No more support group.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:06 AM
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17. He could simply resign...
Stanger things have happened. As unlikely as this seems, the Republican Party may decide it's time to save what little face they have left and call for his resignation. Things are declining rapidly in thier camp and they know it. Shit like this could destory their party. At some point, self-preservation is going to kick in. Look at Voinovich and how he miraculously opposed a vote on Bolton. I'm not a big fan of Voinovich but I do know he's not stupid. He would never have pulled a stunt like this if he thought the Republican majority was as solid as they keep saying it is. There is dessention in the ranks, even though we don't see it, it's there. They're not going to go down for Bush, they're just not. KBO.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 03:02 PM
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20. It means we won majorities in the House and Senate
This issue is such a non-starter.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 03:05 PM
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21. I think we should impeach Cheney first
Discretion is the better part of valor.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 04:03 PM
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22. But how do we get Rove?
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SGBL Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 04:06 PM
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23. I only have two questions for you
1. How old are you?

and

2. You've never bothered to read the constitution?
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 04:15 PM
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24. Where have you been the last eight years?
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