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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:13 PM
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Wesley Clark could truly compete in all 50 states.
Wesley Clark could truly compete in all 50 states.

In Georgia, for example, a majority may want a Southern general who promises to lower taxes on the middle-class over George W.

While John Edwards says he could compete all over, I think the "liberal trial lawyer" label would make it difficult for him to do well in the South.

I have contributed to Kucinich, Edwards, and Clark, but Clark most-recently because I believe he would beat George W. if he were the nominee, and I'm less sure about the others.




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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:15 PM
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1. Wes Clark has never had anyone cast a vote for him, ever.
Let's see if he can be competitive in one state before we start talking about 50.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:18 PM
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2. Our Dem establishment has had a bunch of votes ...
... cast for them. I'm not very enthusiastic about the results in the past few years.

I think we need someone like Clark to reinvigorate our party.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:25 PM
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Suppose Clark is 4th in New Hampshire Primary. I still believe
Suppose Clark is 4th in New Hampshire. I still believe that if the voters of New Hampshire get a choice between Clark and Bush, they will pick Clark.
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:27 PM
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4. Okay, but don't settle for one
unless you're in a Feb 3 state. Watch what he does on Feb 3!

I also wonder which candidate MO will support, now that Gephardt is retiring. AR is the closest state, both by car and probably by temperament, although I don't know much about that part of the country.

AR and MO are two states Gore didn't win that Clark may deliver come Nov, if he gets that far.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:29 PM
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6. While I can see where you might take offense
with the comment of electibility coming into question, I believe the poster was expressing confidence in his candidate's electibility.

Sir, (or Ma'am), we have all taken hits by the media lately. We would do well to follow all our candidates shining example of remaining above the fray. The repugnants are out to get us. Let us rather rally around one another, and not give them the ammunition with which to load their empty weapons.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:21 PM
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11. Take offense? Where'd you get that idea? I'm simply pointing out
that Wes Clark has no proven, demonstrated ability to win votes, let alone elections.

Of course his supporters believe he can win. However, there are no facts in evidence to justify that belief at this time.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:50 PM
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12. Must be tired... read your post wrong
I thought perhaps it would be taken as an insult on certain candidates... but again...

You know that saying, "The days of wine and roses..."

Well, this has been the day of wine... no, not whine (well, maybe a little)...just mostly wine :crazy:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:25 PM
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3. he and others will come down to funding....and NH ,,,this is a test
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:32 PM
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7. funding is going well for Clark
He raised $11M in Q4 2003, second only to Dean. His "train to NH" is getting about $200K a day, already at $1.75M--and it's goal is to reach $2M by Tuesday. They overshot their $1M target on their last blog fundraiser, I don't remember by how much, but > 10%. And the contributions are averaging $120/donor, so it's personal contributions.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:28 PM
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5. Could?
He will!
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:32 PM
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8. Um, I think we should be talking about 49. eom
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:40 PM
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9. He's doing just fine
The General is the best
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:46 PM
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10. True. He couldn't win Texas, and regarding Florida
True. Wesley Clark couldn't win Texas, and regarding Florida, it depends how much fraud there is in 2004.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 03:33 AM
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13. Don't need the whole South...
The Democratic Party doesn't *need* to win anywhere in the South to win the general election.

Just take a look at this nifty "interactive electoral map" over at John Edwards' website (requires Flash plug-in):

http://www.johnedwards2004.com/media/flash/electoral_map_16_2.swf

However, why take a chance. Give me a candidate that will sweep traditionally Dem states, *PLUS* take a few swing states -- and maybe even pull across a few Reds.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 04:28 AM
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14. hey!!!
i'm not asking him to win Texas...
i just want W to have to actually campaign here. You give us Clark - and we'll just see what we can do to turn out the vote. That redistricting fiasco pissed a LOT of people off... a lot of suspense voters will vote Dem in the fall - and if we run someone a lot of texans feel comfy with (like Clark) then I promise a LOT of pubs will file a protest against W's big-government/guest-worker butt and stay home.

He may still take the place, but we'll do some real damage to the creeps downballot.
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 11:06 AM
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15. I meant the IA primary. n/t
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 11:20 AM
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16. Let's just see him do it in New Hampshire then.
If your post is correct, then it will soon show up at the polls.
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