GOP Wins Election Challenge in Washington (based on statistical analysis)

[Roland99]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050502/ap_on_el_gu/election_challenge;_ylt=AgggUur9IXWab.ORbYuOngis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2bW85OXIzBHNlYwNwbA--

WENATCHEE, Wash. - The Republicans won an important victory Monday in their legal challenge to the election of Gov. Christine Gregoire when a judge allowed them to use a type of statistical analysis to try to prove illegal votes swayed the race.

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Superior Court Judge John Bridges gave the GOP the go-ahead to apply "proportional analysis" to the illegal votes.

Using proportional analysis, they want the court to subtract illegal votes from both candidates' totals according to precinct voting patterns. For example, if 10 illegal votes came from a precinct that voted 60 percent for Gregoire and 40 percent for Rossi, six votes would be deducted from Gregoire's total and four from Rossi's.

Democrats said the method amounts to statistical guessing. At the same time, they have been collecting evidence of illegal votes in GOP-leaning counties, and plan to use the same proportional analysis in court.

But nothing about Ohio and Florida?!?!

[bluestateguy]

1. Christine Gregoire is the governor of Washington

The Democrats should ignore this lawsuit and not dignify it with a response.

[ibid]

8. I agree - the GOP has won nothing - the actual court hearing beginns this

month.

The "win" - that a statistical approach will be allowed - may well be useful in our 2004 presidential election suits - or it may not be useful.

In any case, the subject line of the original post is misleading.

[GetTheRightVote]

2. These Repub thugs will never stop until they run this country into ground

A bunch of election thiefs if ever this were some, I saw so much during the elections this year and four years ago to make me sick for the rest of my life.

:kick:

[Kerrytravelers]

3. I can not believe this is still going on!

[sendero]

10. What I can't believe ...

... is that the 2004 debacle is not still being contested. You want to strain credulity, take the evidence they have and multiply it by 10, and still our illustrious leaders can't think of a legal challenge to make.

It's no wonder we have lost congress and the white house.

[brainshrub]

4. I thought they were against statistical analysis of the census?

In any case, good for them! Anything that legitimately helps find what is the will of the voters is a good thing.

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[w4rma]

5. Fine. Whatever. This is good precedent to use in Ohio and Florida.

It may even sway a corrupt Federalist judge or two.

[regnaD kciN]

7. I suspect it means little...

Washington state law requires that an election challenger prove that enough votes to offset the margin were illegal. Not guess it...prove it.

The Repugs made sure this case was heard in a district court in conservative Eastern Washington just so they could pull this flim-flam. They may actually succeed at the lower court level, but there's no way this "proportional analysis" is ever going to stand up at the appeals court and supreme court levels. Any G.O.P. "victory" is likely to be short-lived and temporary.

[Clark2008]

11. Cute graphic

However, I believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy (and the Easter Bunny, for that matter) before I'd believe in anything blivet says.

My nearly 6-year-old son would agree. :)

[GOPBasher]

9. Well, they can have a revote in Washinton if we can have one in Ohio.

Statistical evidence shows we won Ohio, too.

[Yupster]

12. That's totally stupid

If one campaign worked out a scheme where they could get 100 of their activists to vote twice, then this idea would subract 45 votes from obe side and 55 from the other.

Totally stupid.

[KamaAina]

13. Statistical analysis?! Why don't they just use exit polls?

oh, wait a minute...

What'll they come up with next? Raven from "That's So Raven" having a vision of Rossi taking the oath?

[liberaltexas]

14. Have you all seen this statistical analysis on the presidential election?

If they're going to push their lawsuit then lets do the same.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0503/S00470.htm

There is a link to the executive summary (near the bottom of the article) for the white paper and the study is available on the net now. The executive summary is really impressive and if you were on the fence about fraud, this should take care of that problem.

Here's a quote from the article:

"Officially, President Bush won November's election by 2.5%, yet exit polls showed Kerry winning by 3% <1> . According to a report to be released March 31^st by a group of university statisticians, the odds of a discrepancy this large between the national exit poll and election results happening by accident are close to 1 in a million."