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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:45 PM
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MSNBC TV...clark inconsistent in planned parenthood questionnaire
according to msnbc, clark was given a questionnaire by planned parenthood. his responses were so inconsistent that they asked him
for clarification as to which answers he wanted to claim. his reported answer was 'which ones would you like"

the reporter said this was early in the campaign and clark had obviously not spent much time thinking through the core democratic principles yet.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:46 PM
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1. And?
:shrug:
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:08 PM
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13. and, why would he have to ask what the answers were?
would you be stumped by a position questionnaire by planned parenthood?
would you struggle for answers?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:28 PM
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18. Where Does It Say "Stumped" or that he "Struggled"
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 05:29 PM by cryingshame
it merely said there were inconsistencies.

Like some practising Catholics DO use birth control other than the rhythm method.

Clark is not dogmatic. His mind is not narrow nor does he see things in black & white.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:34 PM
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21. how many shades of grey are there in a woman's right to choose
what happened to that statement that life begins with the mother's decision? now he's ok with a late term ban if it contains the woman's health provisio

"In an interview after the news conference, Clark press secretary Jamal Simmons said Clark was reluctant to elaborate because abortion is a complicated legal matter. Simmons said that Clark supports "a woman's right to choose" and that he would back a ban on late-term abortions if it carried an exception for a woman's health.

And in a televised debate last night, when pressed, Clark clarified what he meant: that a woman "has a right to choose pre-viability and after viability"; and that that right "can be constrained by the states but the health of the mother must be protected."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/23/c...
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:47 PM
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2. Or, maybe the staff person who filled out the questionnaire didn't
do a very good job and it was corrected before it was final.

So?
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:31 PM
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20. i try really hard not to just make up 'maybe scenerios'
when deciding who to vote for.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:52 PM
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3. What?
Clark's position is perfectly clear. Please take a look at his National Political Awareness Test:

http://www.vote-smart.org/npat.php?can_id=MZZ72757

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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:29 PM
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19. this seems so say maybe not
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 05:37 PM by bearfartinthewoods
Clark is cautious when asked his stance on abortion
By Joanna Weiss, Globe Staff, 1/23/2004

snip

Asked when, after conception, he thought life began, Clark said, "I stand with the established federal law, Roe v. Wade and Casey."

Asked which restrictions he supported, Clark said, "I support the established law, Roe v. Wade as modified by Casey."

Asked if he could explain the standards in the law, he said, "I'm not going to go into detail on Roe v. Wade and Casey."


Clark also declined to describe his personal views further. "I'm not going to get into a debate on viability," he said. "Viability is something that's determined by a doctor."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/23/c...
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:35 PM
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32. Sounds like he supports Roe v. Wade as modified by Casey
Kate Michelman, head of NARAL-Pro-Choice America, said she is satisfied Clark "will not only be a pro-choice candidate but will make it an issue in this campaign" against Bush if he wins the nomination.

"I think what the general is saying is that he supports a woman's right to choose as protected by the law," Michelman said. "We're good to go with Gen. Clark."

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politic...

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:53 PM
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4. *gasp*! Clark gave inconsistent answers???
hey, MSNBC, HOW FUCKING INCONSISTENT IS GEORGE BUSH?????? How many reports have you done on THAT???

:argh:
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:53 PM
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5. ask MADD about */dick-less questionnaires. LOL!
Maybe Clark is conflicted on the issue... like millions of Americans.

Your resident and his vice never filled out the MADD forms in 2000, and MADD let them skate! I complained, and they said they wouldn't make an issue of the DRUNK DRIVING CONVICTIONS. I stopped donating to MADD that day.
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:53 PM
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6. I heard he occasionally consults a Dictionary
when solving the New York Times crossword puzzle.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:54 PM
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7. The reporter was Craig Crawford. He makes Tweety look
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 04:55 PM by tishaLA
perfectly respectable. And sober.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:45 PM
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26. LOL
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:13 PM
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30. i think his report was based on theis article
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:56 PM
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8. "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds..."
Is that the correct quote??
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:38 PM
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23. and inconsistancy on right to life is a good thing for the dem nominee
OK.........got it...bizarro world....
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:57 PM
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9. Well, in that case, screw 'em.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:57 PM
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10. Who do you support again bearfart? I know it's not Dean.
I just want to make sure so people know it isn't Dean people bashing Clark.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:11 PM
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14. relaying a news report about clark and asking a question is bashing
what's next?
POOP?
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:35 PM
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22. It is
when the questions are about a certain candidate.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:12 PM
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29. OK, it wasn't bashing. So who do you support?
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 08:44 AM
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34. why do you ask?
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:25 PM
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17. LOL, glad you cleared that up for me my friend.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:05 PM
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11. The whores are doing the full-court press
and it's not going to work.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:08 PM
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12. LOL....this is a "hit"....i hope the Gen outlines bush's AWOL tomorrow
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:24 PM
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31. He is NOT all over the place, and since the hairsplitting that the right
is using to make it divisive (my once liberal mother has become very religious conservative now has some anti-abortion beliefs) once again. They know they cannot win on the basic principal, but if they can narrow the debate down to a specific enough scenario, they can create a unattractive enough impression to use it as a wedge issue.

Clark answers, even when "inconsistent", all follow the basic idea that it is a woman's private decision with her doctor and is not favorable to government intervention. Explain what the big deal is?
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NJGeek Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:18 PM
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16. MSNBC, spewing more GOP propaganda
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:39 PM
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24. that was a good one....
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:41 PM
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25. Sorry but MSNBC has zero credibility.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:50 PM
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27. "early in the campaign"?
UGH. Clark has only been a Democrat since Sept. Give the guy a chance to catch up. The Primaries aren't gonna wait for him, however.

I would like to know who your candidate is too, BFITW.
Lots of folks are still undecided or ABB. Do you mind stating your preference for POTUS?
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:02 PM
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28. why do you ask?
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 06:08 PM by bearfartinthewoods
by the way...early in the campaign referred to the questionaire. the newspaper article that was linked outlins inconsistenceies in a news conference this week.

now.....just how much time does he need to get this story straight?? can we assume he'll get caught up to dem principle before he nominates the next SCOTUS justice?
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:40 PM
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33. Yaaay! They're talking about Clark! There IS someone
running besides Dean!

You got a link for this "quote"?
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