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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:37 PM
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CNN: Clark Slams FNC for asking "nonsensical" questions during debate
Yes!
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:39 PM
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1. General Smackdown in da hizzzouse
AGAIN, laying the wood to lessers in his way. Nice going General. BTW, where's the link?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:41 PM
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2. Did you know that FNC means......
"Fascist Nazi Cons"
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:45 PM
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3. Link?
Context?

My 'slamming' daydream is getting too violent for office hours.

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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:46 PM
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5. See my thread here:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:41 PM
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18. Well, the word 'nonsensical' isn't in that article.
Did Clark say it or not and in what context?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:49 PM
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7. Yep, I'd like those things, too.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:45 PM
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4. Dat's my general. He'll beat the s*it out of 'em.
Go Clark! That's my boy!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:49 PM
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6. Smacking Journalists Is Always A Good Thing
People do not much like any of the ink-stained wretches, and enjoy seeing them thwacked.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:32 PM
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13. Yes, it should be part of the everyday strategy of the Democrats....
They lose nothing by attacking the media. What are they going to do? Start favoring the Repubs in their reporting?? I wish every Democrat would find a way to criticize the media.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:40 PM
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17. Indeed, My Friend
And it would go a good way to undermining the "liberal media" swill, as well....

"Kick a journalist a day; put Republicans away!"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:58 PM
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41. We look forward to your stentorian campaign comments, sir..
as we prepare to put the Chimp in a cage forever..
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:23 PM
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8. Standard Military Procedure
Don't sit and let them give it to you. Attack, Attack, Attack

Good for the General. Let fox be on the defensive.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:26 PM
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9. CNN's Inside Politics just showed his comments.
They also showed him singing "God Bless America" with some kindergarten students. Judy Woodruff proceeded to make fun of his singing, then they went on to a John Edwards piece.

At the bottom of the screen, under a photo of Edwards speaking in NH (he's off to SC for a fundraiser), the crawl read:

"Edwards hopes to do well in his native SC."

Who hires these CNN researchers??? Honestly...
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:28 PM
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11. I think he was born in SC
If I remember correctly.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:34 PM
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15. Well, if that's the case, then I guess I'll get off CNN's back.
But not for long!!!!

:D :D :D

Thanks for the info, MaineDem!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:57 PM
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25. Edit...responded about wrong candidate
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 04:58 PM by jchild
Edit...responded about Clark, not Edwards. But yes, I think he was born in South Carolina.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:28 PM
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12. Did you see Ron Brownstein?
He said Clark got the toughest qustions, & looked like they were prepared by Republican opposition research teams.

Obviously some people get it.
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:41 PM
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38. Do you have a link for that Leilani?
Thanks!
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:26 PM
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10. Clark has been excellent standing up to the Corporate Media Whores
I still smile when I think about the time some FOX Whore lied and accused Clark of dissing the troops and Clark started yelling at him - I swear if the actor was there in person, Clark would have punched him.

If Clark actually punched some smarmy whore-actor on live TV, I GUARANTEE he'd win in a landslide! A boy can dream can't he?
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:46 PM
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19. Here's My Dream About That
If Clark actually punched some smarmy whore-actor on live TV, I GUARANTEE he'd win in a landslide! A boy can dream can't he?

Some smarmy FAUX fuck makes a snide comment to Clark about Gert. Clark knocks his ass out cold with one punch, and then says to the camera, "If you disrespect my wife, you're gonna get hit, and that's all there is to it. If that causes some Americans not to vote for me, then so be it."

This would be followed by a skyrocketing in the polls for Clark. :-)

DTH
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:54 PM
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23. Thanks for sharing that
made my afternoon. :)
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:04 PM
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33. I wish he would do that
To either Hannity or Splotchy would make it even sweeter.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:33 PM
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14. Yes. Some of those questions were really stupid and Repub oriented
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agitpropagent9 Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:39 PM
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16. i'm not sure
that whining about a biased media is effective. and i'm hard-pressed to see anything that was asked of clark last night that hasn't been debated to death in these very forums...
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:47 PM
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20. There Is A Good Difference, Mr. Agent
Between whining and kicking: the former is indeed to be discouraged, as it invites contempt; the latter is to be applauded, as it excites respect.

Some of those questions have been debated here, and it has been a debate pressed mostly against Gen. Clark by persons without much interest in electoral success. Only a small faction of purists are much excited by the credentials question, and it is in any case an intramural aquabble. The journalists, particularly Hume, were simply trying to stir trouble.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:34 PM
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31. Glad to see your honor back!!!
Been missing your posts.

:-)
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:48 PM
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21. That is the point
They knew the issues were all debunked. They didn't care. They did not give Clark a chance to be positive about his vision for America, because they intentionally tied him up in a defensive posture being forced to respond to them yet again. Clark was given Two questions about whether or not he was a Democrat, not one, two. And he was asked the very same question at the first debate that he appeared at. There was no news value left in those questions. Candidates don't get much time in a 7 candidate format. What most voters remember from a debate is either an inspirational message, or a blistering attack, not yet another rebuttal to a tired boring accusation. They did not want Clark to have the opportunity to score many points in that debate.
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agitpropagent9 Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:55 PM
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24. fair responses
magistrate and rinaldo -

i guess my point is that, at least for undecideds and swing voters, are they candidates really done a disservice by getting tough, even arguably slanted, questions in a debate? remember, this is not (nor should not be) a situation where the candidates are merely thrown softballs easily knocked out of the park that simply open windows for them to give stump speeches.

it's obvious that many, including (as i said) loud and proud democrats share concerns about the true nature of the general's political soul. to me, it's incumbant upon him to state his case and resolve the issue in the eyes of both pro-clarkers and undecideds, the latter of which may care deeply about his transformation and weigh it carefully in choosing whether or not to give him their support.

anyhoo, carry on. just throwing my 2 cents in.

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:04 PM
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27. If, Sir, You Are An Independent Or A 'Swing Voter'
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 05:05 PM by The Magistrate
What earthly difference does the question of Party credentials make? You would vote the man, or the policy, and not the Party in any case. A person who had himself voted the man and not the Party in the past, would seem to me to have a damned useful credential with such a voter. This question was not asked to clarify things for such persons, who will not be much participating in most primaries, but rather in the hope of stirring up the faltering effort of the purist fringe. These will surely fail: the rank and file of the Party wants nothing more than to evict from office the criminals of the '00 Coup, and are making their decision solely on their personal perceptions of a candidate's ability to prevail in the fall....

Allow me, too, Sir, to welcome you to the forum, and wish you a long stay here; you seem a sensible fellow.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:15 PM
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29. My sense as well Magistrate.
"the rank and file of the Party wants nothing more than to evict from office the criminals of the '00 Coup, and are making their decision solely on their personal perceptions of a candidate's ability to prevail in the fall...."

The policy positions of our candidates are really secondary to the overarching question: which one can gather the largest aggregate of voters. In the overall scheme of things, shades of policy positions will not mean a damn if we cannot wrest the levers of power from the hands of the unelected war-profiteers who seem to be doing their utmost to bankrupt and deconstruct our country.

Both Kerry and Clark are showing extremely strong positives on personality ratings. I think a Kerry-Clark ticket would be awesome....we are going to need two real leaders to undo the damage that the so-called "adults" have visited on this country.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:50 PM
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39. Thank You, Sir
Until these reptiles are evicted from office, no good whatever can be achieved.

We are fortunate to have several candidates who may well be able to do what has to be done....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 03:37 AM
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42. It is always my pleasure to read your well reasoned and insightful
commentary on current events. :-)
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:24 PM
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30. When Is The Last Tough Question Asked Of Bush??

Ultimately, that is my rage with the way in which Hume and Jennings treated Clark - I am fine with tough questions, fairly asked, with no spin. When is the last time they asked Bush a tough question?

When he was yakking it up in the restaurant, did any reporter ask him how Weapons of Mass Destruction related program activities differs from WMD? Think anyone will ask him why David Kay is leaving if the WMD is going to be fruitful? No.

It is outrageous that the media try to undermine the military careers of Kerry and Clark - while building up the military career of Bush.
Outrageous.

One might argue that Jennings' question would have been more powerful as a reporter seeking the truth if he left out his spin. So his interest was not in probing the truth - it was to but Clark on the defensive - in a sense, to answer the question himself before giving Clark the opportunity to answer.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:31 PM
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37. See my e-mail to Pete yesterday-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=172043

That is the very heart of the issue. No problem with the question, but don't ask it with your opinion attached. Makes you look like a media whore.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:09 PM
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34. In Clark's case it is more than whining
The media has been paying no attention to him to the point that they are avoiding him, they asked him FOUR questions in a 2 hour debate last night (even Al Sharpton got more questions than that) and all but one of the questions he was asked were obvious attempts at character assasination.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:39 PM
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32. I'm a Clark supporter, but...
...in all honesty, he has to be prepared to answer those questions. I mean, shoot, he's ALREADY answered most of those questions.

None of them came out of rightfield. It kinda boggles my mind that he seems surprised that Bushbot Brit Hume would toss that London Times quote at him. I mean, come on! I knew that was coming the minute it was announced FOX would be hosting the debate.

It'd be nice if they'd toss him a policy bone every once in awhile, but that's obviously not going to happen.

So he has to be ready to hit those same old questions out of the park every time they come up. He's had plenty of batting practice.

OK - enough baseball analogies. Spring training doesn't start until next month :)
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ClarkUeberAlles Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:28 PM
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35. I agree with you
I wanted to punch my t.v. screen I was so frustrated with Clark. Whyd wasn't he prepared to answer the michael moore question with the facts about Bush not showing up to his unit for over ONE YEAR!

Jennings definitely asked the question in a biased way because he said the facts don't support the charge which is patently false, but Clark should have been prepared. Chris Lehane should be fired.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:50 PM
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22. Good for him!
I honestly hope they have come to their senses about debates on FAUX NEWS. That should never happen again and I wrote the DNC and told them so. STOOOOOOOOOPID! It's nice to know Wes let the jerks at FAUX NEWS know that their questions were "nonsensical", but I'm sure they already knew that. :grr:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:59 PM
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26. Clark is taking on the righty-controlled media...
Good for him. Who says he won't take on the Chimp?

:loveya: Clark! :yourock:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:48 PM
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28. they all should....
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texasmom Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:34 PM
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36. I have been no less than ecstatic..
about the way Clark takes on the media. He is pleasant and charming, but he doesn't take cheap shots from them sitting down. He goes right back at 'em.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:54 PM
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40. poor baby
whining will certainly help his cause.

can he even spell politics ?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:58 AM
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43. He's a Rhode Scholar.....
What do you think? Duh!
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ArtieBoy Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:16 AM
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44. Great to hear he fought back. Now...
...watch him get called "temperamental" and a "loose cannon" like our man Dean! :(
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