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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:30 AM
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What a wierd political season we have going. Despite the media proclaiming Deans demise he is still the one they talk about nonstop.

What will it take for the media to turn their focus on the other candidates? It is starting to look like Dean will have to drop out before he stops being the topic of discussion good or bad.

I am not complaining about this by any means I love hearing about my guy good or bad but at some point it starts to get silly. We still have 5 other candidates in this race and judging by the media coverage you would never even know they were running.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:33 AM
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1. Even if he drops he will be driving the debates
The talk will be about his organization and supporters and who 'gets them.'
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:34 AM
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2. From poster dreissig:
Reggie Jackson saw himself as the central guy on the New York Yankees, saying "I'm the straw that stirs the drink." That describes Howard Dean. No matter what happens from here on out, we won't have the official word on anything until Dean has spoken. He's the boss.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...




"The straw that stirs the drink" is right on the money.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:36 AM
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3. I know, now that is really weird
Well, he is intersting, you know. He is exciting and fun and not scripted and we all gravitate towards it for better or for worse.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:41 AM
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4. What would dunderheads talk/write about if Howard wasn't around?
He is the best thing that has happened to American political scene in a century and all they can think of doing is tearing him apart. They should be kissing his butt for making the race exciting and their stupid "jobs" easier.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:42 AM
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5. As of this morning, my father is now on board with Dean.
He knows I've been a Dean supporter/volunteer for months, but he has been considering 4 candidates. He seems pretty aware of the basic policy positions of each, and would be OK with any of them as Prez. But this weeks' feeding frenzy somehow pushed him towards Dean.

His reasoning seems to be that if "they" have to dig this deep to find something to be critical of, he must be pretty good.

Go Howard!

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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:46 AM
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8. He may not get "selected" but the beltway insiders ...
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 11:47 AM by joefree1
Will now worry about a populist uprising each and every election.


So when's the next "Throw the Bastards Out" meet-up?

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SeattleRob Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:43 AM
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6. a better question....
What will it take for the media to have an honest discussion of issues and the candidates positions?

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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:45 AM
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7. When we take the media back
When entertainment divisions stop making decisions for the news divisions. When 'news' become non-profit.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:49 AM
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9. They used to talk about Clinton too.
Dean is still in the running, even though he isn't benefitting from the artificial bubble of invulnerability created by the media and his own PR efforts.

There are a lot of really unhappy people out there who look to him to bring some sort of reality to national politics. As long as he can afford to keep going there is always a real chance of his getting the nomination.

Kerry has not become "inevitable" either. The next round of votes in the South will have a lot to say about that.

All of which being true, I am still 107% behind my candidate, Wes Clark. I just don't want to see Dean falter and stumble because of an inadvertant "gaffe".

Okay? Okay!


YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAHHHH!!!
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:51 AM
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10. Great phraze: "artificial bubble of invulnerability" Thank you! n/t
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:53 AM
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11. Maybe this isn't so bad, Egnever
I noticed a lot of coverage of the "I Have a Scream" speech (I thought that was a cute name for it). And then they broadcast Dean's speech about taxes. I thought that speech was good. Everybody is looking to see what Dean is going to do to redeem himself, as Clinton did. So they're paying attention to what he's saying and, it can only get better (I hope).

I'm actually liking the way the rhetoric is shaping up. I'm liking Kerry.

I also noticed that the spin on Bush is that he looked pretty bad in the rib joint. His numbers are down. Methinks it's time for all of the candidates to take out the long knives and to see how much flesh they can get from Caesar, instead of each other.

Yes, I think it's shaping up quite nicely.
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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 12:14 PM
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12. ABB!
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