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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:41 PM
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Poll question: GOP Presidential Poll
Who do you think will be the 2008 Nominee?

Yes, it's another 2008 Poll
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:43 PM
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1. Huckabee?
Have people been talking about him? He wouldn't have a chance of get re-elected as Governor if he ran again. He's pretty unpopular in Arkansas these days.
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:45 PM
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2. I've heard his name
As well as Gov. Tim Pawlenty of MN.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:58 PM
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31. AACK! Tim Pawlenty is a slimy freeper-pandering asshat.
But then, so are the rest of them.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:46 PM
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3. President Huckabee??
Not even Diebold is gonna make that happen. Now that Newt is showing interest, I would say the nomination's his to lose, unless Uncle Dick steps in, and I doubt that's going to happen.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:05 PM
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12. He is term limited on Governor. He has aspirations to be a vp.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:08 PM
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15. Yes, but if there weren't term limits
You don't think Huckabee would have a chance do you? He doesn't seem popular at all unless a lot has changed in the last 6 months since I've been there.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:18 PM
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19. Probably not. but he has never been defeated so who knows.
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:50 PM
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4. I do hope it's Guliani or Newt. they represent the Morals and Family
values party to a tee.

:kick:Do as i say, not as i do party. :shrug:
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Clark Bayh 2008 Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:53 PM
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5. Frist vs Giuliani vs McCain ?
If McCain runs, Hagel won't. If Giuliani doesn't run, can't see McCain losing the nomination.

Christian right is too much for everyone. Right now it seems too close to call though. If Cheney resigns in 2/07, Bush's VP nominee will get the nomination most likely.

Too many variables, too early. It's clear that we must stop Frist who is aligning with the hard RW.
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:54 PM
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6. I don't know...
McCain seems like a given to run, yet Hagel's still going to New Hampshire in May.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:55 PM
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7. Jebbie is ENTITLED to the office
It's his birthright, don't you know, passed from his Poppy to his big brother and then to him.

Nothing is going to stop Jebbie from running in the top spot.
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:58 PM
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8. Besides the fact that he said he wouldn't
this time?

I'm pretty sure he's not running, Cheney's not running, and Rice isn't running either.

That doesn't mean he won't, next time.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:01 PM
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9. I think Frist or Hagel (I voted Hagel to be a homer)
unless McCain runs. Something tells me he won't. I could be wrong. Giuliani is a freeking joke. He's way out of it, believe me.
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:03 PM
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10. I voted McCain
Because I don't see Giuliani getting it due to the religious right.
And I don't see Hagel getting it due to the hawks.
And I just can't see Frist getting it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:04 PM
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11. I guess that means that Jeb is off the radar--just like the GOP
would like.

I won't be fooled though.

Jeb/Rice 2008 may be the one the GOP will end up with. Rice nicely shores up the one thing Jeb lacks--National Security & FP creds. A black woman as VP with a southern Red state 2 term governor at the top of the ticket might be too hard for the GOP to resist. And one does have to admit, whatever we might think of Jeb, he does offer a nice visual presentation of a compassionate thoughtful individual.

Could Jeb get by with his family history of drug use? Sure, why not? It's all out there. By 2007, that history can be used to show that those on drugs can truly be re-habilitated. As long as the daughter stays clean for a while, it could be viewed as a success story against adversity. Could be spinned favorably for Jebbie.

In terms of the issue of a dynasty, don't be surprised that those who support Bush I and Dimson will also support Big head Jeb. We can want to think that most will be tired of the Bush's by then, but we tend to overestimate the intelligence of the GOP's sheeples.

Considering that it's "Hillary all of the time" on the Democratic side, I would suggest that dynasties won't really be made into the kind of objectionable issue we would hope for.
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:08 PM
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14. I'd agree...
Except it wasn't a non-denial denial. It was a clear "I won't run for President in 2008." And Rice has certainly denied it enough. They didn't leave any room for ambiguity.

Sure, anything could happen. But as of right now, Bush isn't even a candidate.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:44 PM
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17. I don't recall Rice saying she wouldn't be a Veep candidate....
did you?

In reference to Jebbie, all that would be needed is a "Draft Jeb" movement.....to see him say, "well, running was not my intent....but since so many people want it, I will do the people's bidding".

Again, I just don't underestimate at all, the GOP coming out of right field and totally loading their bases. They have never been a party known for actually doing what they say they will do. Why think they would start in 2007?
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:59 PM
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23. This is true
But it would be like including Gore in a Democratic poll in 2004, even though he said he would not run. I guess the difference was you could trust Gore.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:45 PM
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29. Actually, (not so) KindaSleazy did say she wasn't interested
Hiya Frenchie!

She said, flat out, "I am not interested in being President" and "I do not want to run for President". This was on one of the yakking head shows ... Fat Timmy? I can't remember. But I heard it first hand, not as a second hand story.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:06 PM
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13. They'll never pick Romney
Too many of the evangelicals think Mormonism is a cult. It worked against Hatch too. You'd think Mormon Republicans would get a clue and realize this movement hates them.
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bigendian Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:15 PM
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16. Where's Jeb?
As long as Poppy is alive, Jeb WILL be the nominee. Frist is jockying for VP.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:05 PM
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18. Other: If the primaries were being held today
I think Santorum, Romney, Pataki might be in the mix?

On the upside, all the names mentioned thus far are easily beatable, if we can throw out electronic voting machines by 2008!

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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:26 PM
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20. In a way, I hope it's Frist because a small part of me
still believes that the majority of the country could not be THAT stupid to elect him. But, in a way, I'm afraid for it to be Frist because a bigger part of me believes that the majority of the country IS that stupid- and that is very, very scary indeed.:scared:
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:41 PM
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21. Kansas Senator Sam Brownback
The bobblehead fundies are going to demand and nominate someone they feel they can trust completely. 8 years of Bush and abortion is still legal. This time they are going to want it all.
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:53 PM
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22. Heh...
I almost hope that the fundies get their candidate to run... Roy Moore. Let's say (sorry Alabamans) Moore wins in Alabama, and becomes Governor. Then he runs for President in 2008. Most of the country is scared of him. Giuliani somehow wins the GOP nomination. Moore breaks off and runs for President as a third party. 1992, except instead of Ross Perot, you have Roy Moore.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:01 PM
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24. Run Newt Run!
Please let him be the nominee, he is SUCH a target!
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Deaniac20 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:42 PM
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28. o GOD run him!
If he wins the nod I will believe there truly is a God. The American public will not forget his government shutdown and the fact that he cheated on his dying wife AT THE SAME TIME as pushing for Clinton's impeachment. The "flip flop" will hurt him more than the actual affair.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:02 PM
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25. Where's Roy Moore on that list?
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:06 PM
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27. Other
I figure he has to win in Alabama to run as the GOP nominee. Otherwise, he's going to be a third party candidate.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:06 PM
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26. I'm bracing for President Cat Killer.
I don't think either Guiliani or McCain has a snowballs shot. I don't believe Rice would even try to run. I think she probably has a realistic idea of her true chances, and anyway, prefers to exercise power more behind the scenes.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:52 PM
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30. Sen. Chuck Hagel - they desperately need a "war hero" who is friendly
with the weapons industry lizards.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:14 PM
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32. I want to live in Fantasy land where there is no thug party so ...
I'm abstaining!
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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:10 PM
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33. Bill Owens
Currently the governor of Colorado.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:18 PM
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34. Not a damn one of them is worthy of the office.
Not even McCain.
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:21 PM
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35. But of course
We wouldn't expect a candidate from the GOP who would actually do good for Americans, would we?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:26 PM
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36. Only if we were crazy and stupid. n/t
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:30 PM
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37. I hope its not McCain, I hope the conservatives don't become realists.....
If we tromp them in 2006, the conservatives might rally around McCain out of political realism. I hope we tromp them in 2006 but they still pick an unapologetic conservative (McCain is perhaps more evil and deadly since he is just as anti-labor, pro-business as the GOP but doesnt pander to the ultra-conservatives as much). The only thing that would unite the conservatives under a McCain banner, although, would be a Hillary run.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 05:53 AM
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38. Whoever the Democrats run he/she will be demonized
While It's unlikely that the Republicans will pick a high profile moderate like McCain or Guiliani (Oh God I hope it's Rudy!) I don't think that Hillary is the only Democratic nominee that is hated enough to unite the conservatives.

The Republicans are very good at demonizing even the most mild-mannered Democrat. They managed to turn a bonafide war hero into a lying, self-serving coward who shot himself in order to get a couple of purple hearts and a quicky trip home from Nam.

I'm not a Hillary Clinton fan but one of the plusses in her favor is that she's a known quantity. The scandals around her have been beaten to death and proven at taxpayer expense to be false. Think they'll be able to drum up outrage over Whitewater?

A fresh new face would give them lots of new ammunition to work with.
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