Anyone think I should respond to this?

[Maraya1969]

Subject: Not politically correct, but what the heck

WOW!!! Things that make you think a little...G

1. There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January.
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January.
That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq.

2. When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following

FDR...led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.

From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman...finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us.

From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy… started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire.

From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

3. In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for! the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick killing a woman.

[Warpy]

1. My only response to this stuff is to

refer them to snopes and tell them if they ever foul my inbox with this kind of lying spam again I will block them.

Then I do it.

[blondeatlast]

5. Yep--I love the "Inboxer Rebellion" area of Snopes.

Anytime I get one of these I head straight over there.

[Sanity Claws]

2. It's full of half-truths

It must be written by repugs.

For example, it says that Germany did not attack us. Actually Germany declared war on us after we declared war on Japan, following Pearl Harbor. Kind of an important detail on how we got into the Eurpoean part of WW II, don't you think?

North Korea invaded South Korea -- this was the start of the Korean War is my recollection. The US came to the aid of a country that was being invaded by China. Iraq was not invaded by a larger country. I don't see how this can be compared to Bush's warmongering.

The troops sent to Bosnia were part of NATO forces and used to prevent genocide. The intervention was far more limited than Bush's invasion of two countries.

As for Bush's claim to have liberated two countries, war and chaos are not the same as liberation.

Sickening how things get twisted.

[Fridays Child]

3. Wasn't this the lead-up to one of Jimmy Jeff's press briefing questions?

[Maraya1969]

8. ROFL - took me a while but I got that!

[strategery blunder]

4. Regarding the start of Vietnam,

It was Eisenhower, not Kennedy, who introduced the first "military advisors" in 1954.

And Clinton did more to pursue terrorists than ANY president before him, capturing the WTC 1 bombers among other things, and Bush IGNORED terrorism until 9/11.

Oh, and Reagan/Bush I sold the weapons that Saddam Hussein used to murder 300,000 of his own people.

The United States' role in crushing the Taliban was limited to air support and a few "military advisors." Most of the work on the ground was done by the Northern Alliance.

And WHERE IS OSAMA BIN FORGOTTEN!!????

[dflprincess]

6. FDR...led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did

Fact: On December 8, 1941 FDR asked Congress for a declaration of war against Japan and only Japan.

On Decemeber 11, 1941 Germany and Italy declared war on the United States.

Only after Germany declared war on the U.S. did the U.S. reciprocate. I can't remember if Congress passed the resolution on December 11 or 12, 1941.

[kentuck]

7. If we lost a hundred million people, it wouldn't be that bad ....

because we would still have 200 million left...Anyway, more people died with Bubonic Plague during the middle ages. It's all so silly - Vietnam was meaningless because we lost more people in accidents during that decade than we lost in Vietnam...so what's the big deal? <sarcasm off>

[Maraya1969]

9. Thanks everyone - the DU members are a group of smart people!

I may send a "reply to all" to this one with some of the facts you all gave. I am suffering here in a Red state and surrounded by Red people. It is amazing because I grew up in NJ and I am not used to this kind of thinking. (I'm in SW Florida now in a Red county! - still part of the Bible Belt as far as I am concerned).


At least we have the Unitarian Universalist church here and I see there is a forum for Florida DU'ERS.

I must say that the people who send me this stuff do NOT have any formal education beyond high school. If they did they would know how to look at things with a critical eye. Very few critical eyes around me.

[jdots]

11. You are not alone in your red state

The Bushys sank alot of money into the states they claim as being red because they know the people would never vote for them unless they put in the big fix.

[FreedomAngel82]

13. Yep

It's funny how they like to rewrite history so they can be the good guys and us the "evil dooers." :eyes:

[magellan]

16. A friendly interjection

You imply that critical thinking is a result of higher education. It is, but not exclusively, and it's no guarantee. I know plenty of born and bred red-state folks who are critical thinkers despite never having advanced beyond high school. Conversely, there are many Bushbots with college degrees.

Nature/nuture probably plays as significant a role in opening the 'critical eye' as advanced education does.

[Maraya1969]

17. You are right in a real sense

Critical thinking may be a gene thing or something that can be nurtured. But I've read that, in general Democrats have higher education levels. You certainly do not see many Republican College professors, except maybe at some Christian Universities. And you certainly do not have to have a college education to learn how to "think".

I have yet have a Republican answer this question though: "What was the justification for going to war in Iraq?" A lot of two steps around it but no one can answer the question.


Maybe when I was first on the internet I would send around ridiculous emails without checking to see if there was any truth to them. It's hard to say because I was so busy trying to figure out how the damned thing worked. The only experience I had until then was with punch cards that went to the room that held "The Computer".

[marcologico]

10. gotta love that Chappaquiddick punchline.

Wouldn't be a wholesome smear without it.

[KaliTracy]

12. "Here he comes to save the D-a-a-y! " oh wait.... * isn't mighty mouse

he's just a mouse...


or maybe just mouse droppings...

[FreedomAngel82]

14. Hey now

I love MightyMouse. Bush is the little bug that MightyMouse would eat. ;)

[KaliTracy]

15. LOL --- sorry, when I was reading that stream of "what * did" I had

visions of Andy Kaufman singing -- he's not MightyMouse either... ;-)