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KBlagburn Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:15 PM
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Bill would ban abortions of 'gay' fetuses

Bill would ban abortions of 'gay' fetuses
Maine legislator got idea listening to Rush Limbaugh
Posted: February 25, 2005
8:45 p.m. Eastern


2005 WorldNetDaily.com

A Republican lawmaker in Maine has introduced a bill to prohibit abortions based on the sexual orientation of the unborn baby.

State Rep. Brian Duprey wants the Legislature to forbid a woman from ending a pregnancy because the fetus is homosexual.



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_I...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:17 PM
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1. Two problems. 1) It's a right wing source. 2) It's stupid. NT
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:19 PM
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2. 3) It's the woman's fucking right to choose what to do with her own body.
If she's a wacko and thinks her fetus is gay, then so be it. It's not our job to tell her what to do.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:19 PM
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4. second that nt
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:19 PM
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3. Brian Duprey get the dumb shit of the year award
how you supposed to tell if a fetus is gay?
Don't the reich wingers say homosexuality is "curable"?
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:43 PM
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12. Right, If being Gay is genetic, then it isn't a choice, it's who they are.
I have heard some fundies say that researchers can block the gene for illnesses and disabilities so if they find a gene for being Gay, they can block that too and we would soon have a world with no Gays.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:16 PM
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18. Easy.You check his...agenda.
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 08:17 PM by robbedvoter
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:20 PM
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5. Is this for real???
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:22 PM
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6. Did I just read that?
I thought it was a message about a proposed law that would ban aborting "gay" fetuses.

Man, I gotta lay off those mushrooms ...

--p!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:24 PM
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7. I don't know how much more insane you could be
to be this guy. Hates gays but wants to ban abortions of fetuses with "gay genes". I didn't know there had been a "gay gene" discovered anyway. Somebody please inform me.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:32 PM
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9. it's unlikely to be as simple as a "gay gene..."
...but you can be sure that there is a genetic component to homosexuality. All behavior is ultimately under genetic control. What I'm interested in learning is what selection pressures favor the retention of homosexuality within populations. For example, in a number of other social animals there is sometimes an important social reinforcement factor involved in same-sex "erotic behaviors."
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:51 PM
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13. My sister heads a genetic research lab and she says that there are
random genetic combinations we get from our parents which supports our primal personality ... our preferences or tendencies toward individual personality traits. To have a gay child on a genetic level would mean that one or more of the parents and both sets of grand parents would have to either carry the gay gene. The gene would have to be triggered for the person to have the trait to be gay.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:59 PM
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14. My Family
I had a gay aunt. My husband had a gay uncle. Out of 4 kids, my sister-in-law has 2 gay kids. Out of 2 kids, my husband I have one gay daughter.

I guess we fit the bill.

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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:15 PM
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17. It would be just like eye color. I bet you love to look at the color of
your kids eyes. If my son came to me and told me he was Gay, I would still just want him to be happy with his life and hopefully find someone to have a loving relationship with just like I did before I knew he was Gay.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:11 PM
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16. that's one reason I said that it's unlikely to be as simple...
...as single gene control of sexuality. Another is that sex has been a part of our genome for a LONG time-- at least a couple of billion years-- and it's unlikely that any single gene, or even a small set of genes, exerts that much control over sexual behaviors with such a long evolutionary history, although I should emphasize that it's not impossible. Another reason is that sexuality is not a simple behavior, but rather a pretty complex syndrome.
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:17 PM
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19. Ooooooo!! You said the "E" word!!!!!!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:26 PM
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8. oh that's rich, but a bit unexpected....
I expected them to specifically EXEMPT gay fetuses from any anti-abortion legislation, e.g. "abortion is only permissible in the event of rape, medical necessity, or if the child would be born homosexual."
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:36 PM
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10. Do I smell a Conservative Idiot of the Week?
http://www.mehousegop.com/index.pl/duprey


Contact information:

Rep. Brian Duprey

P.O. Box 214

Hampden, ME 04444

Phone: 207/862-5785

repduprey@msn.net


Mods: This info came straight from the Maine House of Representatives Republicans website, so I submit that it is fair game for posting here.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:39 PM
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11. They want to have civil rights for sperm, while discriminating against
ovum. Why doesn't anyone just come out and say it: Pro-Life is simply Anti-Contraception !
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:08 PM
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15. They don't seem to mind embryo implantation when they are the ones
who are childless, but isn't that man creating life outside the method of God's will? Shouldn't God decide who should be parents by blessing them with the divine miracle as they like to call it?

Secondly, When they do go through the procedure of embryo implantation, they are informed that many more embryos must be grown to be able to try several times for a pregnancy. They are told that up to 4 embryos will be implanted to get one pregnancy because the body my try to reject the implants. If life has been created and more than one "life" gets implanted knowing that one will live and the others get rejected ... isn't that premeditated murder?

Third. If the first implantation results in up to 4 births and the couple does not want any more children, they had already be informed at the beginning that all unused or inviable embryos would "disposed", this is to assure them that their unwanted embryos would not be given to anyone else without their knowledge etc. They "dispose" of those cells just like the do when they remove a lung or kidney and so on, They incinerate it. They don't think of this as murder under their own definition of an embryo being a living being? That is their objection to stem cell research.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:26 PM
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20. They DO say it. Check their websites.

Most major "pro-life" organizations are vocally anti-contraception, and several are extremely open about wanting to criminalize the birth control pill.

Of course, the MSM never touches on this extreme side of the agenda.

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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:38 PM
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22. Dude..
... that is NUTS. Some people have really taken the holy roller thing about as far as they could get it to go and then some.

(and this is coming from me, a conservative)

Hey fundies: Side note, there is NO such thing has "Hell" okay.

Read your Bible. Eternal "punishMENT" is not the same as "Eternal punishING".. and read up on how "when a man dies, *his thoughts perish*"

Sorry to dissapoint you, no fire and brimstone for the heathens.

Heyo

:hurts:
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chaz4jazz Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:29 PM
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21. Abortion only of GOP fetuses - enough idiots in the USA eom
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:24 PM
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23. It's a TRICK to ban abortion OUTRIGHT! His agenda is:
1) pass the law protecting 'gay' fetuses
2) bitch and moan about the gay fetuses getting special rights
3) demand "equal right" to protection against abortion for all 'non-gay' fetuses!
4) Presto! Abortion banned in maine.

PS - he heard about the Gay Gene from Rush. No kidding! "In the event that it is discovered".
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:30 AM
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24. Just a minute, are they saying that a gay person is born that way?
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:02 AM
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25. It sure looks that way.
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